Re: [WSG] Form layout in CSS - left column background not extending ...

hhmm, no this is IE only - environment is controlled... I probably should have made that clear to start with. On 8 Sep 2004 at 13:04, Andrew Krespanis wrote: > I've just spent the last 10 minutes playing with the form to try and > get the div height to play ball in Mozilla... No luck, the form la

Re: [WSG] Form layout in CSS - left column background not extending ...

I've just spent the last 10 minutes playing with the form to try and get the div height to play ball in Mozilla... No luck, the form layout is utterly borked in Moz 1.7. It would appear that you're developing/testing in IE and then testing for Gecko afterwards?. If this is the case, you're making t

Re: [WSG] Interview markup?

Justin French said: "Sure, the W3 spec suggests DLs to be used for conversations and other non-DL purposes, and we've seen some great examples out there, but the reality is that (last time I researched), DL's are still announced by screen readers as "a definition list of N items", which would *real

Re: [WSG] Form layout in CSS - left column background not extending ...

Hi I use a background image in a container div instead to ensure that columns continue to the end of a set height. Not sure if this helps. On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 08:36:19 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a form laid out in css, the left columns contain the headers for t

Re: [WSG] Standards-based PHP tutorials for beginners...

Hi Michael, This is what you are looking for: http://www.juicystudio.com/tutorial/php/index.asp Regards, -Vlad http://xstandard.com - Original Message - From: "Michael Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 7:39 PM Subject: [WSG] Standard

Re: [WSG] Brisbane meeting tonight

Thanks Lea, Miss the meeting and you miss meeting John Allsopp - you don't want to miss that opportunity, surely! ;) but if there is a low turn out, I'll take it personally people :-) See you tonight, John John Allsopp :: westciv :: http://www.westciv.com/ so

Re: [WSG] Problems with IE rendering - what's new?

> 1. I'm having a problem with the IE peekaboo bug on my new blog page. After > the right hand sidebar becomes too tall (not sure how tall too tall is > exactly) the bottom of the left hand sidebar (which should be background > color showing through from the "body") becomes obscured by the backgrou

[WSG] Standards-based PHP tutorials for beginners...

... a bit much to ask? Just wondering if anyone knew of any such tutorials. Those on php.net seem as if they were written by C programmers wanting to learn php. Yet those on webmonkey are so old that they still use things like: echo "Hi there"; Makes it very hard to help HTML newbies (who've le

[WSG] Brisbane meeting tonight

Last minute reminder - Brisbane meeting tonight, 6:30 for 7pm, usual location. Please RSVP by Noon if you haven't already done so - but if you forget to RSVP don't be embarrassed to just turn up - always room for one more :) (Twelfth person turned away, however ;)) Miss the meeting and you miss

Re: [WSG] Problems with IE rendering - what's new?

Since posting earlier on, I have now remedied problem #2 and improved on problem #1. I now have the layout sorted on the blog page but IE refuses to render all of the styling to elements within the page - certain borders and backgrounds don't appear. Please look at http://www.bryandavis.info/life

[WSG] Form layout in CSS - left column background not extending ...

I have a form laid out in css, the left columns contain the headers for the fields, and the background should be grey, however it does not extend all the way to the bottom of the form when I have a multiple select which size is greater than the text on the left. I cannot come up with anything t

[WSG] Comments + browser tests sought for web page & (novel?) scripting

Dear [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'm a newbie to the list but a fan of standards-based design and am hopefully beginning to get the hang work of some accessibility issues. I'm currently experimenting with some scripting ideas in an existing site. The old site is at but I'

Re: [WSG] Mangazie related to Web Standards / Web Usability

Don't know about paper magazines,  but http://www.alistapart.com/  is a magazine from my point of view when you get it in xml, and http://www.digital-web.com/,   and kinda/sorta http://www.simplebits.com,  and a few others. here are some  great books that are well thumbed on my desk. Stan

[WSG] Mangazie related to Web Standards / Web Usability

Hi List,   Is there any printed magazine(s) related to "Web Standards" or "Web Usability", which you could recommend?   Thanks in advance, Behzad    

Re: [WSG] Table within a div tag and IE

A useful cludge is to nest the table in a div and give the div a width. You should really remove all width, cellpadding, cellspacing from the table into a style. Cheers jon - Original Message - From: Nancy Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 10:43:15 -0400 Subject: [WSG] T

Re: [WSG] Interview markup?

I think that this is a great discussion. I think that the exact markup depends on how you choose to structure the interview. If it's very structured, (i.e strict Q followed by A) sucha s you might get with a questionairre then: Question 1 Answer1 Q2 A2 etc... However, if it is more

RE: [WSG] Interview markup?

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of russ - maxdesign Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 9:36 AM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Interview markup? Drew, I disagree with your argument (below) for three reasons. 1. Dialogs and Q&A's h

[WSG] Problems with IE rendering - what's new?

Hi Folks I wonder if anybody can help me out with a couple of problems I'm having getting my new site to work in IE. The two problems are as follows: 1. I'm having a problem with the IE peekaboo bug on my new blog page. After the right hand sidebar becomes too tall (not sure how tall too tall is

RE: [WSG] Interview markup?

As I pointed out previously, the DT is the question and the DD is the answer. Tom Jones: What is your favorite color? Lee Roberts: Blue is my favorite color. Tom Jones: What is your favorite movie? Lee Roberts: The Court Jester. Larry King: What is the most important evolu

[WSG] Table within a div tag and IE

Dear WSG,   I’m sure this has been talked about before:   I'm about to make live a master calendar for our organization. I've set it up so there are data tables within a div tag. The tables are set at a width of 75% and I did not put anything for a width with the "td" tags.   The pag

Re: [WSG] Interview markup?

Russ, et al, Sure, the W3 spec suggests DLs to be used for conversations and other non-DL purposes, and we've seen some great examples out there, but the reality is that (last time I researched), DL's are still announced by screen readers as "a definition list of N items", which would *really*

RE: [WSG] accessible audio-visual content

Joe Clark just published a best practices list for captioning. http://joeclark.org/access/captioning/bpoc/?leeroberts I hope this helps. Lee Roberts http://www.roserockdesign.com http://www.applepiecart.com -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft

Re: [WSG] Interview markup?

Drew, I disagree with your argument (below) for three reasons. 1. Dialogs and Q&A's have the same fundamental need. The speaker and speakers text, or questions and answers should ideally be tied together - as they have a direct relationship with each other (name/value sets). The questions do not n

RE: [WSG] commonly used order of styles within a css class

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 11:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] commonly used order of styles within a css class Does anyone know if there is a common way of listing styles in CSS? I

RE: [WSG] Interview markup?

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lea de Groot Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 2:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Interview markup? On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 14:53:46 +1000, Michael Nelson wrote: > I mean, a definition list is real

Re: [WSG] Help! Safari wide background image bug?

Lea, i see the same effect in both firefox and safari - a white strip to the left of the blue background? in both Firefox and in safari. Sorry, no, that's not where the problem is. I placed the left edge of the blue background arbitrarily, just to display the issue, so you'll have to excuse the b

Re: [WSG] Help! Safari wide background image bug?

On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 17:59:16 +1000, Hugh Todd wrote: > What's happening, though, is that the *background is pushing the div > wider*. What the...? i see the same effect in both firefox and safari - a white strip to the left of the blue background? in both Firefox and in safari. I note your css do

Re: [WSG] Help! Safari wide background image bug?

Whoops! Correction. Looks fine in Firefox and Opera. Not Safari, of course. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To

RE: [WSG] accessible audio-visual content

Hi all, The DRC's videos are done using a Flash front-end. Quite liked the method and currently recommending it. http://www.drc-gb.org/citizenship/talkvideos/index.asp mike 2k:)2 http://www.webSemantics.co.uk -Original Message- From: Hugh Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

[WSG] Help! Safari wide background image bug?

Has anyone else encountered this bug? I'm trying to create an elastic layout, using the "sliding backgrounds" approach alluded to by Doug Bowman in the link provided by Russ earlier today: http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2004/09/03/liquid-bleach.html *But* there seems to be a bug in Safari. Here's

Re: [WSG] accessible audio-visual content

Vicki, If QuickTime is acceptable as a delivery medium, you can either: 1. incorporate "closed captioning" via a text track or 2. play images (or Flash) of text within the audio/video window. (Either in its own space or over the top of a movie [Flash images are better for the latter].) For more

Re: [WSG] accessible audio-visual content

This will be the best place to start: http://www.joeclark.org/access/captioning/bpoc/ Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st On 7/9/04 5:00 PM, "Vicki Berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There will also be some video clips Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Ph: 02 9570 9875 Mobile: 0419 350

Re: [WSG] Horizontal Scroll

Thanks Thorsten - but I was hoping I wouldn't have to use maths but instead utilise some kind of 'width:auto;' thing or a thing or something inherently set by the technology. If wost comes to worse, I'll just pop in some client-side JS to do the math - but i still think it's a bit of an icky optio

Re: [WSG] accessible audio-visual content

On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 15:00:11 +0800, Vicki Berry wrote: > So... what's the best way to caption audio content? A very timely question - the previous message from included in its many links: Best practices in online captioning: http://joeclark.org/access/captioning/bpoc/ Joe is The Man in captionin

Re: [WSG] accessible audio-visual content

Russ linked to it before, but: is worth a read. For video, you may consider using Magpie For audio, a full transcript should be enough (as a separate document). Patrick Vicki Berry wrote: Hi al

[WSG] accessible audio-visual content

Hi all, I have a client who wants some audio-visual content on his site. He wants to stream interviews etc like a radio channel - but not live, at this point. There will also be some video clips. (All of these will be downloadable, and not play automatically.) The client represents a local gov

Re: [WSG] Horizontal Scroll

ji Richard, Umm actually thinking of a container "x" pixels long that I can hold images in so that they can be scrolled horizontally. This is the kind of effect acheived in Flash with only a little effort but in CSS? if you use "overflow:scroll;" you'll get BOTH scrollbars, but in order to get the