Thanks to those who have emailed me with screenshots!
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Steven Faulkner
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Hi Stuart,
The screen reader will get the css, if JavaScript is enabled, which is the norm.
Though I point out that styling is not really essential to a screen reader.
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Hi Patrick,
Interesting... I think you found a bug in Firefox. The IE approach seems to be
correct. Content inside the object tag is an alternative to the object tag,
not an addition to it. Using your example, in IE, the following construct will
submit abc to the server:
object name=abc ...
Suggestion #1: Spell-check
Suggestion #2: Why 100% table design? You can't control the way your user
sees your site. I have a 21 inch monitor and it stretches all the way across
and is somewhat overwhelming.
Suggestion #3: Font size it too big...try dropping the size a little. I know
accessibility
Eh? What tables? Do you mean 100%
width? Fixed-width layouts are less accessible than fluid-width layouts,
although an elastic approach may be better. I have a 21" monitor (running
1280x1024) and I don't find it overwhelming at all.
By the way, I absolutely
love the two-cube logo design.
Title: RE: [WSG] Clearleft.com
Hi Komal, where are the
tables in that site??? Are you sure your looking at the right site?
w
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of
Komal AgrawalSent: Tue 20/09/2005 17:15To:
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: RE: [WSG]
Clearleft.com
Suggestion #1:
Komal Agrawal wrote:
Suggestion #2: Why 100% table design?
Just to clarify though: it's not a table design...it's css...
Suggestion #3: Font size it too big...try dropping the size a little.
PS - your personal website is quite nice however, clean, crisp, and the user
will have the same
Hi Andy,
Great look and feel. I like the font sizes, they're refreshingly readable.
One wierd issue though. In Firefox on Debian (sarge), trying to use the
mousewheel dies half way down the page. I usually only encounter problems
like this with things like google ads and flash animations, but
We've just launched our new company website, and would love your
feedback.
http://www.clearleft.com/
Server issues? Won't come up now...
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Senior Multimedia Artist
Media Logic
www.mlinc.com
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This might be off topic, so please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I
was thinking of adding a search engine to a web site. What is a simple web
standard compliant search engine?
Angus MacKinnon
MacKinnon Crest Saying
Latin - Audentes Fortuna Juvat
English - Fortune Assists The Daring
Web
Andy Budd wrote:
http://www.clearleft.com/
Looking and working well in Op, Moz/FF ,IE6 on normal windows/screens
(800 to 1280).
Q: do you trigger the 'extreme font-resizing bug' in IE/win on purpose?
Sure makes 'largest' large enough, but 'smallest' ends up a bit too small.
Georg
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Komal Agrawal wrote:
From: Andy Budd
We've just launched our new company website, and would love your
feedback.
http://www.clearleft.com/
http://www.andybudd.com/
Suggestion #3: Font size it too big...try dropping the size a little. I know
accessibility is a concern, but it coming
I found that the Fluid Dynamics search
engine(http://www.xav.com/scripts/search/) was fairly easy to sort out
for standards based design with a bit of tinkering (i.e. don't use the
table based layout they give you for the search box) - their site will
also install it all for you as well.
On Sep 20, 2005, at 11:58 AM, Andy Budd wrote:
http://www.clearleft.com/
One really minor comment... the 'clear:left' text used in paragraphs
is bold (and rather tight - O8.5 Mac), whereas the type in the logo
is not. I'm pretty sure I know why, but it's just something I
noticed. I had
Site looks great. Slightly OT but the user survey is using a TIFF image
that is not showing up in Word (Office 2003 WinXP Pro) - says something
about needing Quicktime installed! I'm sure you could make it work without!
James
Andy Budd wrote:
Hi folks,
We've just launched our new company
I like the fluid layout and the large text. Very nice site. Thanks for not following the cliched fixed width layout. On 9/20/05, Andy Budd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi folks,We've just launched our new company website, and would love your
feedback.http://www.clearleft.com/YoursAndy
A little on the boring side, where are the images, the site is just
text.
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From: Andy Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:58 AM
Subject: [WSG] Clearleft.com
Hi folks,
We've just launched our new company
I was going mention something about that (it is a bit OT...). The only
other time I have seen this issue was when I used Mac OSX's Grab
application and pasted the image into Word (on Mac OSX) and then opened
it on a PC. A solution is to to apply some formatting like scratch
removal or a little
Try to have a look at Jello layout, I think it will boost the usability
in some exteme conditions.
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Suggestion #1: Spell-check
We have gone over the site a couple of times, however nothing on the
web is ever finished. If you've found some particular typos, it would
be great if you could let me know what they are.
Suggestion #2: Why 100% table design? You can't control the way
your
On 20 Sep 2005, at 18:33, Damian Sweeney wrote:
Hi Andy,
Great look and feel. I like the font sizes, they're refreshingly
readable.
One wierd issue though. In Firefox on Debian (sarge), trying to use
the
mousewheel dies half way down the page. I usually only encounter
problems
like
This thread has got me thinking. If verbs are not the go in link
text, where does that leave us with 'skip to' links at the beginning
of a page? Should we just use 'main content' or 'navigation/menu'?
Also, Richard. The text sounds more passive because I've put it in
the passive voice. You
Q: do you trigger the 'extreme font-resizing bug' in IE/win on
purpose?
Sure makes 'largest' large enough, but 'smallest' ends up a bit too
small.
I have to be honest and admit that I haven't come across that bug
before. Did a bit of a search but couldn't find any details. Could
you
-Original Message-
From: Damian Sweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2005 9:07 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Verb this link (WAS Click here--reference)
This thread has got me thinking. If verbs are not the go in link
text, where does
A little on the boring side, where are the images, the site is just
text.
Well I wanted to make the logo spin, but the others thought it was a
bad idea ;-)
Seriously though, we will be adding pictures of us on the relevant
about pages, as well as creating a case study area in the not
Dodge the bad and just watch all the good, Andy.
It's a great site. It's visual simplicity belies the efforts you've gone to
in creating it.
I love the testimonial blockquote styling. Tray shiek.
I've gotta tell you though, I did notice a few clear: rights in those
stylesheets. :)
One curious
Apparently it's a Firefox bug relating to overflow:auto.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97283
Ah, cool. Site is fine in latest Firefox on OS X.
Just went to check in a couple of other browsers - Opera is fine, but the
site dropped off the radar when trying to test in anything
Oh, one small encoding issue (?) which came up as well. For some reason I'm
getting the HTML entity and not the in the text below.
Download and complete our client worksheet, and weapos;ll send you a
proposal within a week.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
Andy Budd wrote:
I have to be honest and admit that I haven't come across that bug
before. Did a bit of a search but couldn't find any details. Could
you elaborate?
Change the font-size in body, use 100.01% instead of 1em
Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com
Andy Budd wrote:
Georg wrote:
Q: do you trigger the 'extreme font-resizing bug' in IE/win on
purpose?
Sure makes 'largest' large enough, but 'smallest' ends up a bit too
small.
I have to be honest and admit that I haven't come across that bug
before. Did a bit of a search but
Hi, I am working on a fixed width layout site that I would like to
use two background images. I know that it's impossible to do so in
CSS however is there a (standards compliant) trick I could use? Or do
you know CSS based website that use two background images that you
can point me to?
Sorry, my bad. I should have been clearer. The site failed to load
from about 3:30am Melbourne for a couple of hours. Can't remember
when it came back, but when it did the site worked well on other
browsers.
Phew, had me worried there for a second.
I guess our servers must have got stuck
Form input elements that are - alternative - content within an
object should not be submitted to the webserver via a post or
get, I agree with Vlad, its a bug.
However whether the element is available from the DOM is another
question. Once the document strcuture has been passed by the browser
and
Tee, I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to achieve but why don't you
just try nesting a couple of divs and giving them a background image each?
The following example illustrates the idea and would visually display a
three column layout. Of course, you could use and combination of images and
Fluid, simple, clean, valid, green yet warm, big fonts ( like big hair )
Nice work Andy. I like it.
Hi Andy,
Site looks great, nice and clean.
And don't listen to any of these 'the font is too big' comments, it's
just about perfect for my aging eyes (great, now I feel old :)
Two things that jumped out at me:
* I kind of expected the entire green background of the navigation items to be
Damian Sweeney said:
where does that leave us with 'skip to' links[...]
Should we just use 'main content' or 'navigation/menu'?
yes, I believe you are correct Damien... I've argued this point before =)
kind regards
Terrence Wood
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On Sep 20, 2005, at 4:51 PM, Webmaster wrote:
Tee, I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to achieve but why
don't you
just try nesting a couple of divs and giving them a background
image each?
Hi,
Sorry for my poor English :(
This is what I want :
http://lxm.lotusseeds.com/example.gif
I think that the fix is 100.01% on the html element and the 1em (or what ever height) on body element.
This prevents scaling issues in older versions of Opera and in Internet Explorer.
I can try to find you references tomorrow.
Looks great! On 9/20/05, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We liked the big fonts size partly for accessibility, but also
partly because we were fed up with tiny designer sized fonts. I do
wonder if the size is a little to big, especially on lower screen
resolutions. However on large screen resolutions I think it works
well. I guess if you
Hi,
Sorry for my poor English :(
This is what I want :
http://lxm.lotusseeds.com/example.gif
Ah, yes. That helps. It's tricky but do-able. The trick will be using GIFs
with transparency. All very accessible.
And this requires fluid layout?
Not at all. In fact, fixed layout would probably
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 23:58:33 +0100, Andy Budd wrote:
We liked the big fonts size partly for accessibility, but also partly
because we were fed up with tiny designer sized fonts. I do wonder if
the size is a little to big, especially on lower screen resolutions.
However on large screen
Yes, Opera has gone insane with happiness and have released their
browser free, without an ad bar permanently. I guess it was inevitable.
Yeah, to really get competitive they needed to go free. People might
use their browser pretty much constantly, but it doesn't occur to them
that perhaps
Lea de Groot wrote:
I like Andy's latest effort - the font size is a literal shock to the
eye, but the more I look at it, the more I like it.
I like it too. It is good to be able to read a web page without having
to correct it first.
...
Thinking about those brochures we are
Opera support might become even more of a requirement now than ever?
I'm under the impression that Opera support is crucial for a web
standards developer - simply because it is one of the most compliant
browsers.
Long live Opera!
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Johnno Shadbolt
Shadbolt Organisation, Web Developer
On 9/21/05, Lea de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not on this don't use verbs boat at all because I haven't yetfound (or just missed :( ) a justification for it.While I don't bydefault, or even often, use a verb in a link, sometimes I do.For instance, one of the pages on a current project
Hi,
Can anyone enlighten me about keyboard onclick activation problems on Mac?
I have found problems when I have a link such as this:
a href=# onclick=if(!window.print){alert('Your browser does not support
this feature.Please select print from the file
menu')}else{window.print()};return
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