Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

2006-03-16 Thread Kenny Graham
!ELEMENT FIELDSET - - (#PCDATA,LEGEND,(%flow;)*) -- form control group -- Looks like it's required to me and it's the same in both Strict and Transitional DTDs. I'm looking at the XHTML 1.0 Strict DTD right now and I see: !ELEMENT fieldset (#PCDATA | legend | %block; | form | %inline; |

Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

2006-03-16 Thread Richard Czeiger
Ummm, mickey - just spotted the fact that you have multiple identical IDs How does this work? Certainly won't validate.. R :o) - Original Message - From: Micky Mourelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [WSG]

Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

2006-03-16 Thread Micky Mourelo
To Richard Czeiger: That's one of the problems of copy paste :o) anyway, I thought it was obvious that my code was just an example, maybe should have preceeded it with pseudo-code, but just in case: never leave name= in blank and never use a field id for a field :op. This discussion is getting

[WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread kvnmcwebn
hello, i just went to a lot of trouble style a form, fieldsets, legends and all. The visual studio programmer whos taking over the next phase says it will be coverted into tables. we can't control database content all we can do is contain it that was his argument. why cant he contain it

[WSG] maximum backward compartible to mobile phone (WAP) users? Which XHTML DTD?

2006-03-16 Thread Andrey Stefanenko
SirsSorry for some kind of lame question :)My client want to reach maximum audience. I tell him standarfs based websites with CSS positioning work well in both kind of UA - in desktop browsers as well as XHTML enabled mobile phones He asked me but what about phones with WAP only? My question is

[WSG] WSG Site

2006-03-16 Thread Tom Livingston
Listers, This is most likely old news, but I seem to have been having mail problems for over 1/2 a day so did not get wsg list messages for a while... Is the WSG site down? Or is it just me? -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com

Re: [WSG] WSG Site

2006-03-16 Thread Prabhath Sirisena
Is the WSG site down? Or is it just me? Works fine over here. Prolly some mail server issue at your end? Prabhath -- http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] WSG Site

2006-03-16 Thread Tom Livingston
On 3/16/06 1:06 PM, Prabhath Sirisena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works fine over here. Prolly some mail server issue at your end? To be clear, not the list but www.webstandardsgroup.org is the site I am referring to. Is it working for you? -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media

Re: [WSG] WSG Site

2006-03-16 Thread Prabhath Sirisena
To be clear, not the list but www.webstandardsgroup.org is the site I am referring to. Is it working for you? Yessir, that too. Working fine :-) Prabhath -- http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] WSG Site

2006-03-16 Thread Tom Livingston
On 3/16/06 12:57 PM, Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the WSG site down? Or is it just me? Thanks. Looks like I'll be calling IT... ;-) -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com ** The

Re: [WSG] WSG Site

2006-03-16 Thread info
everything seems fine Bram On Thu Mar 16 19:08 , Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: On 3/16/06 1:06 PM, Prabhath Sirisena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works fine over here. Prolly some mail server issue at your end? To be clear, not the list but www.webstandardsgroup.org is the

Re: [WSG] WSG Site

2006-03-16 Thread Jay Gilmore
Tom Livingston wrote: Listers, This is most likely old news, but I seem to have been having mail problems for over 1/2 a day so did not get wsg list messages for a while... Is the WSG site down? Or is it just me? I noticed that the website was down yesterday. It is now up for me here. I

RE: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread Rachel May
Hi Kevin, If you have already created the html and css for the form, then the developer should have no trouble fitting your structure into the .net framework (we do it ever day here!). It sounds like he wants to use the default pre-made controls for it? Which is unfortunately how a lot of .net

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread Christian Montoya
On 3/16/06, kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello, i just went to a lot of trouble style a form, fieldsets, legends and all. The visual studio programmer whos taking over the next phase says it will be coverted into tables. we can't control database content all we can do is contain it

[WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

2006-03-16 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi all I need to display images, names and job titles for employees in a company, and am looking to use Russ's tutorial http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/tutorial0407.htm instead of a table layout. The problem is that there are gaps in the groupings. I have added a new style thumbnail2

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread kvnmcwebn
Rachel Yes the comments have been helpful, basically confirming my suspicions. If you would like to see some examples of what im talking about heres one of the 1st sites i did with the programmer in question. notice the special offers section and the reservations form-when he got it there

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread kvnmcwebn
adam wrote: Perhaps you should encourage some development of a collection of base controls for your development team? yes i will make a case for this, any suggestions for my arguments??? basically need to sell the project manager who is cool but only concerned with the bottom line. The

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread Geoff Deering
kvnmcwebn wrote: hello, i just went to a lot of trouble style a form, fieldsets, legends and all. The visual studio programmer whos taking over the next phase says it will be coverted into tables. we can't control database content all we can do is contain it that was his argument. why

[WSG] Page-Break-X

2006-03-16 Thread Jack Pivac
Well i've cleaned up my code, and tried using various page-break- rules that i've found from google.. but I can't seem to get it doing what I need... http://temp.delphinus.co.nz/office_details_test.html I would like to put as many office divs as possible on a page, but when that div is going

Re: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

2006-03-16 Thread Micky Mourelo
Nope, empty divs are not really nice. But empty divs are just the symptom, why do you want to present an empty container? I've had designers do stuff like that, always having 3 boxes for products per row whether there'd be less than 3 products. If your case is something like that, and it is a

Re: [WSG] maximum backward compartible to mobile phone (WAP) users? Which XHTML DTD?

2006-03-16 Thread Peter Ottery
re - My question is what is the best practice? What kind of DTD to choose? XHTML Basic? XHTML MP? i can offer a good link! :) http://www.cameronmoll.com/archives/000398.html not sure if it answers all your question. its a 3 part series. the guy (cameron moll) is one of those rockstar designers

Re: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

2006-03-16 Thread Seona Bellamy
Hi Sarah, Haven't got time to work this up properly, but what about something like: div id=tier1 spanMD information in here/span /div div id=tier2 spanGM information in here/span spanFinancial Controller information in here/span spanPA information in here/span /div div id=tier3 spanManager

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread Ben Wong
On 3/17/06, kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you would like to see some examples of what im talking about heres one of the 1st sites i did with the programmer in question. notice the special offers section and the reservations form-when he got it there wasnt a table in site.

Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

2006-03-16 Thread Richard Czeiger
Sorry Mickey - didn't mean to knit-pick, but what you're saying is that it should look something like this? fieldset class=radio legendTitle/legend label for=titleMrinput type=radio id=titleMr name=title value=Mr /abbr title=MisterMr/abbr/label label for=titleMrsinput type=radio

Re: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

2006-03-16 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi Seona Thanks so much for your reply. I think this may just do the trick. I'll get to work on the best option... Many thanks Sarah :) -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: +61 2 4782 3104 mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd

Re: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

2006-03-16 Thread Jay Gilmore
Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: Hi Micky, Why do you want to present an empty container? As I already (perhaps badly) explained, I need to show a visual hierarchy of employees. The first row has the MD. The second row the GM, Financial Controller and PA. The third row all other Managers (7 in

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread kvnmcwebn
thanks ben, ok maybe im overeacting a bit, it gets to me when i spend time doing something with css then it goes out the window for a table, would you just use p's and h's instead of the definition list in the middle column body text? I dont know about using the table for the special

Re: [WSG] .net question

2006-03-16 Thread Ben Wong
On 3/17/06, kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks ben, ok maybe im overeacting a bit, it gets to me when i spend time doing something with css then it goes out the window for a table, No, your not overreacting, I understanding that feeling. would you just use p's and h's instead of

[WSG] Holy grail, Nifty corners and IE

2006-03-16 Thread Darren Wood
Hello list-o-answers, I've done a very dangerous thing! I've created a layout that uses the holy grail[1] method and the nifty corners script[2]This works a treat in FF, etc but goes crazy in IE when the window is resized and sometimes when you hover over the nav links. I'm hoping some of

Re: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

2006-03-16 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi Jay Thanks for your reply. I have achieved a similar result, however what I really need is to be able to center the overall chart, and maintain columns despite gaps. I have included an example of what I am trying to achieve below - this one uses tables. Please note: I have *not* optimised

RE: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

2006-03-16 Thread Geoff Pack
Hi Sarah, I agree with Jay - it should be a nested list, but I'd avoid floats completely and use absolute positioning to lay it out. I'd also change the nesting to reflect the org structure, not just the level. Assuming the managers report to the GM, then: ul id=orgChart liMD

RE: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

2006-03-16 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi Geoff That looks great. I like the idea of the background image, and I especially like the mugshot! :) See: http://www.virtualgeoff.com/misc/orgChart.html with background image: http://www.virtualgeoff.com/misc/orgChartB.html A couple of thoughts: 1. Would it be possible to center the

RE: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

2006-03-16 Thread Geoff Pack
Sarah Peeke wrote: That looks great. I like the idea of the background image, and I especially like the mugshot! :) See: http://www.virtualgeoff.com/misc/orgChart.html with background image: http://www.virtualgeoff.com/misc/orgChartB.html A couple of thoughts: 1. Would it be

[WSG] Validating and validators

2006-03-16 Thread Kat
Gday, For a good while now I have been using A Real Validator to validate my html offline. Recently, I went back and did a quick search to see what sort of validators are around, and I came across a couple of interesting things: 1. What are your opinions of SGML-parsers vs linters? Do both

Re: [WSG] Page-Break-X

2006-03-16 Thread R Walker (RMW Web Publishing)
On 17/03/06, Jack Pivac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to put as many office divs as possible on a page, but when that div is going to overlap onto a 2nd page I would like the whole thing to be on the 2nd page, so the div isn't chopped in half. Can anyone give me any pointers please?

Re: [WSG] Page-Break-X

2006-03-16 Thread Jack Pivac
on 17/03/06 15:04 R Walker (RMW Web Publishing) said the following: Try page-break-inside: avoid; on your divs. Yeah am using that at the moment but it doesn't seem to do anything... Have got .office { border: 1px solid gray; margin: 10px 0; padding: 5px;

Re: [WSG] Employee Hierarchy in CSS

2006-03-16 Thread Jay Gilmore
Geoff Pack wrote: Hi Sarah, I agree with Jay - it should be a nested list, but I'd avoid floats completely and use absolute positioning to lay it out. I'd also change the nesting to reflect the org structure, not just the level. Assuming the managers report to the GM, then: ul id=orgChart

Re: [WSG] Validating and validators

2006-03-16 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Kat wrote: For a good while now I have been using A Real Validator to validate my html offline. That's good. 1. What are your opinions of SGML-parsers vs linters? Do both have their place? Do they have different roles? SGML parsers will tell you exactly what's wrong with your document

Re: [WSG] maximum backward compartible to mobile phone (WAP) users? Which XHTML DTD?

2006-03-16 Thread Dejan Kozina
Andrey, the mobile phone browsers are a hard nut to crack. I've just researched this for an upcoming project, so let me summarize the field: 1. WML phones understand only WML, either served natively from the webserver (with the proper MIME type) or as converted from (X)HTML by their

Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

2006-03-16 Thread Micky Mourelo
If you a referring to the for/id issue, yes, that is the way. As for the rest of the xhtml depends on what you want to achieve. But looks ok to me. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See