RE: [WSG] Investigating the proposed alt attribute recommendations in HTML 5

2007-09-10 Thread John Foliot
Lachlan Hunt wrote: > > What should an authoring tool (like Dreamweaver) insert by default > when a user adds an image and immediately dismisses the alt text > prompt? (It currently omits the attribute unless the user explicitly > selects "" or types in some text.) Currently, most screen technol

Re: [WSG] Font sizing: top down or bottom up

2007-09-10 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/09/10 17:03 (GMT+0100) Rick Lecoat apparently typed: > On 10/9/07 (14:27) Felix said: >>http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/access-lipservice . > To be fair, Felix, I never said that the sites advocating default text > sizes *should* be highly designed; I merely noted the irony that they > wer

Re: [WSG] Font sizing: top down or bottom up

2007-09-10 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 10/9/07 (14:27) Felix said: >http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/access-lipservice . To be fair, Felix, I never said that the sites advocating default text sizes *should* be highly designed; I merely noted the irony that they were not, given that they were telling designers how to size type. The li

Re: [WSG] Font sizing: top down or bottom up

2007-09-10 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/09/07 10:31 (GMT+0100) Rick Lecoat apparently typed: > On a side note, I can't help but notice that almost every site that has > been cited as a reference for reasons why default text size should not > be tampered with has a very minimal level of 'design styling'. For example: >

Re: [WSG] Investigating the proposed alt attribute recommendations in HTML 5

2007-09-10 Thread lisa herrod
Hi Stuart On 10/09/2007, Stuart Foulstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, September 10, 2007 1:44 am, Nick Gleitzman wrote: > > Hassan Schroeder wrote: > > > > Absolutely. But this whole thread started with the issue of whether alt > > text should be optional in HTML5. > > > > > Well, tha

Re: [WSG] Investigating the proposed alt attribute recommendations in HTML 5

2007-09-10 Thread David Dorward
On 9 Sep 2007, at 16:33, Michael Yeaney wrote: I find it interesting that everyone responding to this thread has failed to mention one very important aspect of any design-for-accessibility debate: Until you actually test it with a target audience/persona (i.e., someone who actually **is** b

Re: [WSG] Investigating the proposed alt attribute recommendations in HTML 5

2007-09-10 Thread Stuart Foulstone
On Mon, September 10, 2007 2:24 am, Hassan Schroeder wrote: > Nick Gleitzman wrote: > >> A photocopy may be a poor, 2-dimensional representation of the real >> thing, but a blank piece of paper isn't anything at all... Which is more >> useful? > > Depends on whether you're just curious what a sand

Re: [WSG] Investigating the proposed alt attribute recommendations in HTML 5

2007-09-10 Thread Stuart Foulstone
On Mon, September 10, 2007 1:44 am, Nick Gleitzman wrote: > Hassan Schroeder wrote: > > Absolutely. But this whole thread started with the issue of whether alt > text should be optional in HTML5. > Well, that's simple enough. The only reason the alt-text is being proposed to be optional is beca

RE: [WSG] XHTML+Voice

2007-09-10 Thread Mohamed Jama
This is very interesting, I've tried it and it worked like charm in my Opera (Just needs to enable voice in the advanced TAB and then that will automatically redirect you to download some files less then 3 minutes). I couldn't find similar options in IE6/7 or Firefox sadly. M. Jama big:interacti