Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6?? & Screen Resolution

2008-06-10 Thread David Hucklesby
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:49:43 +0100, Stewart Griffiths wrote: > > However, within Fireworks you can also export png's as a png8, which provides > a palette > based colour model (like gif's) and which many believe only offers a 1 bit > transparency > option. However, if we play with some of the set

RE: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-10 Thread Matthew Hodgson
I've also seen a lot of people with big screens re-size their browser windows to about 1024x768/800x600-ish. M From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Hucklesby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2008 3:46 PM To: wsg@webstand

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-10 Thread David Hucklesby
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:28:18 +1000, IceKat wrote: > Hi, > > I have a question I'd like to poll people about. Should we still bother > designing to > fit in with 800x600 screen resolutions or is it Ok to just design for > 1024x768 and not > worry about smaller resolutions? I know applications like

RE: [WSG] Reset CSS

2008-06-10 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
> Wondering what your thoughts are on whether to use a 'reset' framework for CSS I wouldn't label it a "framework" since it's effectively just a single, simple style sheet. For me it's benefits are * one initial place to reset margins, paddings (saves me from doing this over and over agai

Re: [WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs

2008-06-10 Thread Dani Iswara
Try ATRC Web Accessibility Checker (http://checker.atrc.utoronto.ca/) you can select multiple standard of accessbility: - BITV 1.0 level 2 (Germany standard) - Section 508 (US standard) - Stanca act (Italy standard) - WCAG 1.0 (A, AA, AAA) - WCAG 2.0 (L1, L2, L3) and they have some

Re: [WSG] Reset CSS

2008-06-10 Thread Joseph Taylor
The reset.css (in the form you mention) first came about from css developers who set the same defaults again and again as they made sites. They obviously realized they repeated themselves and eventually created a separate stylesheet to handle that. I did this myself (I chose the name global.c

RE: [WSG] transparency, png IE6?? & Screen Resolution

2008-06-10 Thread Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd
Hi Michael, Here a re few sites I've worked on that use the double helix PNG fix http://www.petcalendars.eu/ http://www.epichousing.co.uk/site/cms/page.asp http://www.enterprise-days.co.uk/ Hope they help -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beh

[WSG] Reset CSS

2008-06-10 Thread Miles Menegon
Hello all, Wondering what your thoughts are on whether to use a 'reset' framework for CSS. I've noticed that quite a few people on the list use it to try to overcome default browser behaviour / user-defined browser preferences. I understand the benefit of trying to level the playing field in

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest

2008-06-10 Thread Cook, Karen
Hi, I'm out of the office on a training course. I will return on Tuesday 17th May. For Whereis related matters contact Belinda Lang, product manager or Asaf Amit, Dev Lead. For nav bar related matters contact Wayne Barker in Shared Services. I will be checking emails periodically, however i

RE: [WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs

2008-06-10 Thread Miles Menegon
Use fieldset, legend, label, input and CSS. Make sure each input has a label. I would suggest checking your form with the WAVE toolbar for accessibility (http://wave.webaim.org/) M From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ray Sent:

Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6?? & Screen Resolution

2008-06-10 Thread cf
Here you are Michael: http://www.meccompany.com.au/aboutUs.php Don't ask me how but it works Quoting Michael Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I need a function of a link that one KNOWS is working... Michael IceKat wrote: Hey, I recently looked this up for someone else. I've found this li

RE: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??

2008-06-10 Thread Simon
I've used superslieight to great success. You see a moment of grey border as the page loads in IE6 but after that it renders fine. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew McGrath Sent: 10 June 2008 13:37 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] t

[WSG] Margin Trapping

2008-06-10 Thread Chris Kennon
The navigation list on the following only stays at top when the following rule is in place: div#container{width: 100%; border: 1px solid transparent;} is this due to margin trapping, or some conjured anomaly with my floats? Chris

Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6?? & Screen Resolution

2008-06-10 Thread Sergey Kushniruk
I use this: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/ On Jun 10, 2008, at 15:52, Michael Persson wrote: I need a function of a link that one KNOWS is working... Michael IceKat wrote: Hey, I recently looked this up for someone else. I've found this link (below) to work well for regular ima

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-10 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/06/10 12:20 (GMT+0200) Gunlaug Sørtun apparently typed: ... > Since all browsers can also resize fonts (one way or another) > independent of page zoom, "relative sizes" risk creating even more > problems when both font resizing and page zoom are used. > The latest mobile browsers also inco

Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??

2008-06-10 Thread Christian Fagan
Hi there Michael, Had the same problem a while back and, while I can't give you the exact line of code that makes it work, the paragraph on this page seems to display properly in IE6 (as well as all other major browsers): http://www.meccompany.com.au/aboutUs.php I think it has something to do

Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6?? & Screen Resolution

2008-06-10 Thread Michael Persson
I need a function of a link that one KNOWS is working... Michael IceKat wrote: Hey, I recently looked this up for someone else. I've found this link (below) to work well for regular images but don't seem to do much for background images pulled in with CSS. However having said that I've us

Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6?? & Screen Resolution

2008-06-10 Thread Stewart Griffiths
There is a way to produce portable network graphics (png's) so that they render correctly across all browsers without the need to employ complicated hacks and ie filter-based solutionsor heavy javascript files, such as the twin helix

Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??

2008-06-10 Thread Andrew McGrath
theres no clean solution that i'm aware of...but this is a common issue, so i'm certain there is plenty of tips and tricks out there to help you get around the problem you are faced with. http://24ways.org/2007/supersleight-transparent-png-in-ie6 the above link provides some /interesting/ info, i

Re: [WSG] animated gif not animating...

2008-06-10 Thread Robert O'Rourke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, I have an ajax call in my page and while loading I am showing an animated loading gif animation. Sometimes In IE the animated gif is not animating. Anybody knows why? Thanks a ton in advance.. Thanking you *Naveen Bhaskar * Can you provide a li

Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6?? & Screen Resolution

2008-06-10 Thread IceKat
Hey, I recently looked this up for someone else. I've found this link (below) to work well for regular images but don't seem to do much for background images pulled in with CSS. However having said that I've used this script without much trouble for quite a while. As for the 800x600 thread.

[WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??

2008-06-10 Thread Michael Persson
HI people, I have tried to not use transparency for years as it is not working IE6 properly. I have not a situation where i need it and there is no way out, I have tried some tricks and there are some that works half way to the full solution. There is a solution with a js file called htc so

Re[2]: [WSG] animated gif not animating...

2008-06-10 Thread k . voronin
Hi, Jonathan http://www.west-wind.com/WebLog/posts/1227.aspx hope that helps! WBR, Kirill > I've seen this happen before on loading images. Never bothered about > it much as it was an IE specific problem. > Jonathan > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:44 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> HI, >> >> >

Re: [WSG] animated gif not animating...

2008-06-10 Thread Jonathan D'mello
I've seen this happen before on loading images. Never bothered about it much as it was an IE specific problem. Jonathan On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:44 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > HI, > > > > I have an ajax call in my page and while loading I am showing an animated > loading gif animation. Som

[WSG] animated gif not animating...

2008-06-10 Thread Naveen_Bhaskar
HI, I have an ajax call in my page and while loading I am showing an animated loading gif animation. Sometimes In IE the animated gif is not animating. Anybody knows why? Thanks a ton in advance.. Thanking you Naveen Bhaskar

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-10 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Darren West wrote: An alternative could be to develop with relative sizes for all measurements, allowing the interface to be scaled to any screen resolution. Examples can be seen at http://www.linkedin.com and http://www.sky.com Dysfunctional examples, but they clearly show what many mean by

Re: [WSG] Help setting current menu state on level2 menus

2008-06-10 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 10 Jun 2008, at 05:55, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Testing with regular browser-option well beyond what "normal" users will expose your work to, will save you from having to deal with "user-introduced problems" later on. On a related note (testing in IE win), I try and remember when doing my

Re: [WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs

2008-06-10 Thread Darren West
Chris, Please can you provide more information about the form. I would be hesitant in agreeing with a solution that seems to omit the labels for the second form controls. Darren 2008/6/10 Chris Pearce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > > > Would the following layout be best marked up using a table:

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-10 Thread Darren West
An alternative could be to develop with relative sizes for all measurements, allowing the interface to be scaled to any screen resolution. Examples can be seen at http://www.linkedin.com and http://www.sky.com *** List Guidelines: ht

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-10 Thread Nick Cowie
I agree with Felix, you have build for your users not for screen resolutions be it 1280x800, 800x480, 392x320, 240x320 (in the top 20 resolutions visiting my work website) and the number of pixels per inch is no longer in the 70 to 100 pixel range, but 70 to 250+ pixel range. So your trusty 280 pi

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-10 Thread Anton Babushkin
Felix, I think the term "design for" is perhaps a little bit inconsistent in terms of interpretation. Perhaps in this context it was also very badly misinterpreted. When I was referring to "design for" I was more referring to "Accommodate for" which in essence is what fluid layouts are all about.

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-10 Thread Felix Miata
On 2008/06/10 13:28 (GMT+1000) IceKat apparently typed: > Should we still bother > designing to fit in with 800x600 screen resolutions or is it Ok to just > design for 1024x768 and not worry about smaller resolutions? Never should have been "designing for" either one. To design "for" any partic

Re: [WSG] Structuring CSS

2008-06-10 Thread Michael Persson
James, It depends on the site size and the structure. If you have a huge CSS file for navigation it is of course good to separate it from other styles. I always make form.css for contact pages and form pages, but in general i keep style.css for the rest ad my sites are not so huge, somethin