RE: [ADMIN} spam alert - Thread Closed Re: [WSG] RE:
I don't think anyone wants to see your tactical nukes Lea :-) -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Lea de Groot Sent: 12 August 2010 10:24 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [ADMIN} spam alert - Thread Closed Re: [WSG] RE: This is exactly the sort of spam we don't want here. This user is now banned with extreme prejudice. Please don't click the link as it will only encourage them! Hopefully no one else will take this as a hint for what to post here, or I will have to pull out the tactical nukes :( warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot WSG Core Member *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [ADMIN} spam alert - Thread Closed Re: [WSG] RE:
Hi Lea, The message of that spam is very familiar. I received similar messages from friends and a number of people I know in the past few months. It was very uncharacteristic to receive this sort of email from friends so I emailed them and learned that their gmail accounts got hacked and they were not aware of it. I don't remember seeing this guy's name, googled it, from his site I think his membership of wsg is legitimate. Maybe his gmail got hacked too. Anyone of us who uses an gmail account, maybe got hacked too without our knowledge. It's unlikely for any gmail user knows about his/her account got hacked unless notified the recipient who received a spam mail. Maybe there is a way to do this but I don't know. I changed my password after my friend told me she didn't spam my mailbox :-) tee On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:24 AM, Lea de Groot wrote: This is exactly the sort of spam we don't want here. This user is now banned with extreme prejudice. Please don't click the link as it will only encourage them! Hopefully no one else will take this as a hint for what to post here, or I will have to pull out the tactical nukes :( warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot WSG Core Member *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [ADMIN} spam alert - Thread Closed Re: [WSG] RE:
Maybe the guy genuinely won a Mac from that site and couldn't resist but share the news with the rest of the world?! :-D We will never know. On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:45 AM, tee weblis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lea, The message of that spam is very familiar. I received similar messages from friends and a number of people I know in the past few months. It was very uncharacteristic to receive this sort of email from friends so I emailed them and learned that their gmail accounts got hacked and they were not aware of it. I don't remember seeing this guy's name, googled it, from his site I think his membership of wsg is legitimate. Maybe his gmail got hacked too. Anyone of us who uses an gmail account, maybe got hacked too without our knowledge. It's unlikely for any gmail user knows about his/her account got hacked unless notified the recipient who received a spam mail. Maybe there is a way to do this but I don't know. I changed my password after my friend told me she didn't spam my mailbox :-) tee On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:24 AM, Lea de Groot wrote: This is exactly the sort of spam we don't want here. This user is now banned with extreme prejudice. Please don't click the link as it will only encourage them! Hopefully no one else will take this as a hint for what to post here, or I will have to pull out the tactical nukes :( warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot WSG Core Member *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Jason Grant BSc, MSc CEO, Flexewebs Ltd. www.flexewebs.com ja...@flexewebs.com +44 (0)7748 591 770 Company no.: 5587469 www.flexewebs.com/semantix www.twitter.com/flexewebs www.linkedin.com/in/flexewebs *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [ADMIN} spam alert - Thread Closed Re: [WSG] RE:
What part of thread closed do people not understand? Lea, I say we take off and nuke the entire list from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Russ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] HTML5 offline storage question
Ryan Seddon wrote: If you make an update to the manifest file it will re-download every asset listed in the manifest. You can split resources across multiple manifest files, though, as far as I can tell, the you only get one manifest per page. Have you ever tried caching pages which themselves have manifests? I wrote an article way back you might be interested in - http://www.thecssninja.com/javascript/how-to-create-offline-webapps-on-the-iphone Thanks for the article. Rob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Paul Irish/Divya Manian HTML5 Boilerplate
Anyone have any thoughts on this? Worth a try? On a production site? http://html5boilerplate.com/ Looks pretty good to me... what say ye? -- Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Paul Irish/Divya Manian HTML5 Boilerplate
Considering the link doesn't even look right in IE8, I'm not sure I'd use it to build anything. Dan Freeman Webmaster ERP Administrator 800.650.6506 (TOLL FREE) 330.655.0341 (DIRECT) www.lexi.com -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Tom Livingston Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:58 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Paul Irish/Divya Manian HTML5 Boilerplate Anyone have any thoughts on this? Worth a try? On a production site? http://html5boilerplate.com/ Looks pretty good to me... what say ye? -- Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** LEXI-COMP CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information in this electronic mail is intended for the named recipients only. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended receiver is prohibited. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this electronic e-mail or by calling 330-650-6506. Please delete it from your computer. Thank you. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Paul Irish/Divya Manian HTML5 Boilerplate
Dan I would look past per-site design choices such as that. and look into the neat and beneficial features which are many and various (also the example in use there is outdated compared with the code on github) the site has the initial release of html5boilerplate where as the github repo is stages ahead of this http://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/blob/master/index.html also it is not finished 100% some tweaks to go - mid aug apparently http://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/blob/master/index.html - S On 12 August 2010 14:24, Dan Freeman dan.free...@lexi.com wrote: Considering the link doesn't even look right in IE8, I'm not sure I'd use it to build anything. Dan Freeman Webmaster ERP Administrator 800.650.6506 (TOLL FREE) 330.655.0341 (DIRECT) www.lexi.com -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Tom Livingston Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:58 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Paul Irish/Divya Manian HTML5 Boilerplate Anyone have any thoughts on this? Worth a try? On a production site? http://html5boilerplate.com/ Looks pretty good to me... what say ye? -- Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** LEXI-COMP CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information in this electronic mail is intended for the named recipients only. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended receiver is prohibited. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this electronic e-mail or by calling 330-650-6506. Please delete it from your computer. Thank you. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Paul Irish/Divya Manian HTML5 Boilerplate
I'm sorry to disappoint you guys, but an HTML5 Professional Template with BROWSER DETECTION (those conditional comments in the markup) is not a best practice. - HM On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Sam Sherlock sam.sherl...@gmail.com wrote: Dan I would look past per-site design choices such as that. and look into the neat and beneficial features which are many and various (also the example in use there is outdated compared with the code on github) the site has the initial release of html5boilerplate where as the github repo is stages ahead of this http://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/blob/master/index.html also it is not finished 100% some tweaks to go - mid aug apparently - S On 12 August 2010 14:24, Dan Freeman dan.free...@lexi.com wrote: Considering the link doesn't even look right in IE8, I'm not sure I'd use it to build anything. Dan Freeman Webmaster ERP Administrator 800.650.6506 (TOLL FREE) 330.655.0341 (DIRECT) www.lexi.com -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Tom Livingston Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:58 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Paul Irish/Divya Manian HTML5 Boilerplate Anyone have any thoughts on this? Worth a try? On a production site? http://html5boilerplate.com/ Looks pretty good to me... what say ye? -- Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** LEXI-COMP CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information in this electronic mail is intended for the named recipients only. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended receiver is prohibited. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this electronic e-mail or by calling 330-650-6506. Please delete it from your computer. Thank you. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Paul Irish/Divya Manian HTML5 Boilerplate
I rather liked the conditionals around the body. What's not to like? On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Hugo Mendes hugo.men...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry to disappoint you guys, but an HTML5 Professional Template with BROWSER DETECTION (those conditional comments in the markup) is not a best practice. - HM On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Sam Sherlock sam.sherl...@gmail.com wrote: Dan I would look past per-site design choices such as that. and look into the neat and beneficial features which are many and various (also the example in use there is outdated compared with the code on github) the site has the initial release of html5boilerplate where as the github repo is stages ahead of this http://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/blob/master/index.html also it is not finished 100% some tweaks to go - mid aug apparently - S On 12 August 2010 14:24, Dan Freeman dan.free...@lexi.com wrote: Considering the link doesn't even look right in IE8, I'm not sure I'd use it to build anything. Dan Freeman Webmaster ERP Administrator 800.650.6506 (TOLL FREE) 330.655.0341 (DIRECT) www.lexi.com -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Tom Livingston Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:58 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Paul Irish/Divya Manian HTML5 Boilerplate Anyone have any thoughts on this? Worth a try? On a production site? http://html5boilerplate.com/ Looks pretty good to me... what say ye? -- Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** LEXI-COMP CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information in this electronic mail is intended for the named recipients only. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended receiver is prohibited. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this electronic e-mail or by calling 330-650-6506. Please delete it from your computer. Thank you. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Paul Irish/Divya Manian HTML5 Boilerplate
On 8/12/10 4:57 AM, Tom Livingston wrote: Anyone have any thoughts on this? Worth a try? On a production site? http://html5boilerplate.com/ Looks pretty good to me... what say ye? Some useful ideas there, although I won't be using it as-is. Thanks for sharing. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Paul Irish/Divya Manian HTML5 Boilerplate
Like the site says, it's delete-key friendly :-) On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:40 AM, David Hucklesby huckle...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/12/10 4:57 AM, Tom Livingston wrote: Anyone have any thoughts on this? Worth a try? On a production site? http://html5boilerplate.com/ Looks pretty good to me... what say ye? Some useful ideas there, although I won't be using it as-is. Thanks for sharing. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Getting my feet wet in HTML5
List, Here's a theory question ( i think) for ya. I'm working on a layout, and am attempting to use section and aside. Properly, I believe. But as I look at my layout, I'm thinking ok, i'll put an ID on this section, and one on that section... and I stopped and thought Uh oh... it's the same as i've always done with div id= etc. Am I wrong? Is there still benefit to using section... I don't wanna just substitute div for section... am I way off track already?? help... -- Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Getting my feet wet in HTML5
Tom, I think the answer to that is semantics - div has no meaning. Id's are there for you to manipulate the look and behaviour, the tags themselves offer a way for third parties to glean meaning from the page. e.g you could build an overview of a page by grabbing the first bit of text inside each section, assistive technologies can benefit from knowing what part of the page is the main part, header, footer, asdie or google might give greater weight to any text inside a section etc. The problem is that IE currently doesn't recognise these tags, but if you do this for any element it does... script document. createElement(‘ header’ ); document. createElement(‘ nav’ ) ; document. createElement(‘ article’ ) ; document. createElement(‘ footer’ ); /script or use this which includes it... http://remysharp.com/2009/01/07/html5-enabling-script/ except the issue here is that it makes your page dependent on javascript. Without it some elements will be styled in IE, some won't (the above comes from Introducing HTML5 by Remy Sharp and Bruce Lawson) -- Chris Knowles On 13/08/10 6:38 AM, Tom Livingston wrote: List, Here's a theory question ( i think) for ya. I'm working on a layout, and am attempting to usesection andaside. Properly, I believe. But as I look at my layout, I'm thinking ok, i'll put an ID on this section, and one on that section... and I stopped and thought Uh oh... it's the same as i've always done withdiv id= etc. Am I wrong? Is there still benefit to usingsection... I don't wanna just substitute div for section... am I way off track already?? help... *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] HTML5 offline storage question
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Rob Crowther robe...@boogdesign.com wrote: You can split resources across multiple manifest files, though, as far as I can tell, the you only get one manifest per page. Yeah that is a good point. Although doing so would require the person to visit each page which has it's own manifest before it will be cached. Have you ever tried caching pages which themselves have manifests? If you're referring to the page which references the manifest. The page which calls the manifest is automatically included in the cache. -Ryan *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
