[WSG] WSG Melbourne: Meet Doug Bowman and Dave Shea

2004-10-03 Thread afdesign
The WSG informal pub meetup scheduled for Monday October 4 has now been moved to Tuesday October 5. This is becasue Dave Shea and Doug Bowman will be in Melbourne on Tuesday evening. The venue will likely be a pub from 6.30pm onwards but details are still being worked out. For those in

Re: [WSG] WSG Melbourne: Meet Doug Bowman and Dave Shea

2004-10-03 Thread Ryan Christie
I really need to move to Australia. I know that if I manage to catch a plane there, I won't have enough money to make it back to the US anyway. Any Melbies who don't show for Shea and Bowman are insane! afdesign wrote: The WSG informal pub meetup scheduled for Monday October 4 has now been

RE: [WSG] WSG Melbourne: Meet Doug Bowman and Dave Shea

2004-10-03 Thread Bryan Garnett-Law
Definitely! I was lucky enough to attend WE04 and it was well worth it. Dave did a live coding demo which was great! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Christie Sent: Sunday, 3 October 2004 9:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: [WSG] best way to format Skip Nav link

2004-10-03 Thread Laura Carlson
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Re: [WSG] IE5 Mac hanging on loading a page

2004-10-03 Thread Mike Brown
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Re: [WSG] MT hacked into by a spammer

2004-10-03 Thread JonathanC
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Re: [WSG] WSG Melbourne: Meet Doug Bowman and Dave Shea

2004-10-03 Thread Lea de Groot
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 09:13:29 -0400, Ryan Christie wrote: I really need to move to Australia. I know that if I manage to catch a plane there, I won't have enough money to make it back to the US anyway. Any Melbies who don't show for Shea and Bowman are insane! Yo! WE04 Travellers! If you can

RE: [WSG] doctypes, quirks/standards mode and positioning

2004-10-03 Thread JonathanC
I was going to ask this question anyway, but then this thread started about the place of doctypes... Patrick H. Lauke wrote: If you know for sure that the markup is going to be invalid, why bother with a doctype at all? ... OK, Consider this very simple HTML document: !DOCTYPE HTML

[WSG] best tags for FAQs

2004-10-03 Thread Andreas Boehmer
Hi guys, I am in the process of creating a FAQ section in one of my websites and I was wondering what would be the best tags to use for the questions/answers? Perhaps there is no standard, but I was wondering whether a definition (DT, DD) would be applicable? Doesn't really sound right to me,

RE: [WSG] best tags for FAQs

2004-10-03 Thread MirAGe01
I say to use a DL whenever you want to create a list that has a title. -Original Message- From: Andreas Boehmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 5:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] best tags for FAQs Hi guys, I am in the process of creating a FAQ

RE: [WSG] best tags for FAQs

2004-10-03 Thread Jason Foss
The first thing I thought of was a definition list, as the DT and the DD are directly related as pairs. If you go past the fact that it's called Definition List, the relationships created make perfect sense as an FAQ list as well, IMHO! Cheers Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] best tags for FAQs

2004-10-03 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On Monday, Oct 4, 2004, at 10:31 Australia/Sydney, Andreas Boehmer wrote: I am in the process of creating a FAQ section in one of my websites and I was wondering what would be the best tags to use for the questions/answers? Perhaps there is no standard, but I was wondering whether a

Re: [WSG] best tags for FAQs

2004-10-03 Thread Joseph Lindsay
Hi Andreas, I use a definition list. Usually, if the list is long, I have the list of questions at the top as an unordered list with links to anchors further down the page too. e.g. ul lia href=#q1Q1/a/li lia href=#q2Q2/a/li ... lia href=#qnQn/a/li /ul dl dta name=q1/aQ1/dt ddAnswer to Q1/dd

Re: [WSG] best tags for FAQs

2004-10-03 Thread Lea de Groot
On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 10:31:38 +1000, Andreas Boehmer wrote: I am in the process of creating a FAQ section in one of my websites and I was wondering what would be the best tags to use for the questions/answers? Perhaps there is no standard, but I was wondering whether a definition (DT, DD)

Re: [WSG] doctypes, quirks/standards mode and positioning

2004-10-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Consider this very simple HTML document: ... How could leaving out the doctype make such a definite difference to such a simple page? The crucial part of my answer was: If you know for sure that the markup *is going to be invalid* The example you provide is of valid

Re: [WSG] WSG Melbourne: Meet Doug Bowman and Dave Shea

2004-10-03 Thread Aaron Tate
Quoting afdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The WSG informal pub meetup scheduled for Monday October 4 has now been moved to Tuesday October 5. This is becasue Dave Shea and Doug Bowman will be in Melbourne on Tuesday evening. The venue will likely be a pub from 6.30pm onwards but details are still

Re: [WSG] best tags for FAQs

2004-10-03 Thread Aaron Tate
Quoting Andreas Boehmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi guys, I am in the process of creating a FAQ section in one of my websites and I was wondering what would be the best tags to use for the questions/answers? Perhaps there is no standard, but I was wondering whether a definition (DT, DD) would be

Re: [WSG] WSG Melbourne: Meet Doug Bowman and Dave Shea

2004-10-03 Thread John Allsopp
Aaron, I live in the inner south east (caulfield area) of melbourne, so i'm hoping it will be reasonably close. these guys crossed the globe. I reckon crossing town is no super hardship :-) john John Allsopp :: westciv :: http://www.westciv.com/ software,

[WSG] WSG Melbourne: Meet Doug Bowman and Dave Shea - Venue Confirmed

2004-10-03 Thread David McDonald
The venue has now been confirmed for the WSG Melbourne meetup, with special guests Doug Bowman and Dave Shea. The venue is 3 Degrees, located in the new QV complex on the corner of Lonsdale Russell Sts, in the city. The meetup will be on the ground floor bar, which is accessible from the QV

[WSG] default place-holders for forms

2004-10-03 Thread Andreas Boehmer
Hi guys, I have got a website (www.jet.org.au) that passes Bobby almost with AAA, with the exception of the default place holders. The reason I do not want to put them into the site is because every page has got a login form at the top. With the default place-holders, the login form would look

Re: [WSG] default place-holders for forms

2004-10-03 Thread Neerav
Andreas 1. You may want to research the pros and cons of automated accessibility testing 2. what do you mean by password place-holder ? Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts

[WSG] IE 6 Hover Bug?

2004-10-03 Thread Daniel Bowling
I am very confused about a rendering issue in IE 6.02 for an unreleased beta of my site. http://beta.danbowling.com/IFRindex.php For some reason when I mouse over several of my links on the left sidebar other divs reposition themselves. For example, hovering over the more link in

RE: [WSG] default place-holders for forms

2004-10-03 Thread Andreas Boehmer
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neerav 1. You may want to research the pros and cons of automated accessibility testing I completely agree that automated accessibility tests are not efficient enough to rate a website accessible.

Re: [WSG] default place-holders for forms

2004-10-03 Thread Steven . Faulkner
I would recommend leaving them out, from my experience with blind users, the placeholders cause more trouble than they are worth. quite often users are not aware of them and as a consequence they will fill in an input without first clearing the place holder, which may well result in a form

Re: [WSG] default place-holders for forms

2004-10-03 Thread Neerav
Right, Now I understand The guidelines say all form elements need to have default text inside them, but a form field with the type=password always renders as * regardless of the content I think commonsense should prevail and you should leave the password field empty, otherwise you will

Re: [WSG] default place-holders for forms

2004-10-03 Thread Terrence Wood
Place holder text is only required for textarea and text input: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#forms-specific. The reasons are: it makes it easier to tab through inputs without having to read/hear the entire form, and; some assistive technologies can't find form's properly without it.

RE: [WSG] default place-holders for forms

2004-10-03 Thread Andreas Boehmer
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Terrence Wood Place holder text is only required for textarea and text input: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#forms-specific. The reasons are: it makes it easier to tab through inputs without