[WSG] yuzgen.com review please
Hi, Can you please review this site? Site language is not English. http://yuzgen.com/ Thanks in advance, -- Boke Yuzgen __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Site review - torresburriel.com
Hi all! I'd like you to review my personal site. All pages validate (I think) except the weblog section, under PMachine engine. http://www.torresburriel.com Thanks in advance! -- /* Daniel Torres Burriel - www.torresburriel.com /* Web design - Usability consulting - IT Press /* More info bio: www.torresburriel.com/perfil/ /* GPG key: 0x43DB2AB7 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] choosing encoding, charset and using special characters
[UTF-8] it will be stored correctly and rendered as expected, as long as you remember to put a meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 in your page's head. Actually, what you should be doing is getting the server to send the right content-type header. Meta elements are not authoritative and in fact lead many people to confusion when they are superceded by the server headers. -- Manuel a veces :) a veces :( pero siempre trabajando duro para Simplelógica: apariencia, experiencia y comunicación en la web. http://simplelogica.net # (+34) 985 22 12 65 ¡Ah! y escribiendo en Logicola: http://simplelogica.net/logicola/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site review - torresburriel.com
- Nice, clean layout. Align the dotted line
to the top photo or blue rectangle on the
homepage?
- IMO there is a contrast problem, which makes
reading harder. Black instead of gray?
- Too small font on 1600x1200 resolution.
- Your pages jump when I click a link to the
left or right about 5 or 10 pixels.
- http://www.torresburriel.com/feeds/index.php
Make alzado.org and
A List Apart: for people who make websites
normal font-weight like Mis Feeds? Also
make Mis Feeds the same color as alzado.org?
It would be more consistent.
- The emotion on your face on the photo...
Do you have a better photo?
In your CSS:
- font: 12px Trebuchet MS;
At least you should use sans as an alternative.
- #body {
width: 770px;
Isn't it too high for 800x600?
--- Daniel Torres Burriel
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Hi all!
I'd like you to review my personal site. All
pages validate (I think)
except the weblog section, under PMachine
engine.
http://www.torresburriel.com
Thanks in advance!
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RE: [WSG] yuzgen.com review please
Please change html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en to html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=tr lang=tr Have you considered using UTF-8, rather than charset=iso-8859-9 ? Hope that helps, RI Richard Ishida W3C contact info: http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ W3C Internationalization: http://www.w3.org/International/ Publication blog: http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boke Yuzgen Sent: 22 November 2004 09:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] yuzgen.com review please Hi, Can you please review this site? Site language is not English. http://yuzgen.com/ Thanks in advance, -- Boke Yuzgen __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] yuzgen.com review please
Idid it first, but my pages won't validate if I use UTF-8. --- Richard Ishida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please change html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en to html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=tr lang=tr Have you considered using UTF-8, rather than charset=iso-8859-9 ? Hope that helps, RI Richard Ishida W3C contact info: http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ W3C Internationalization: http://www.w3.org/International/ Publication blog: http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boke Yuzgen Sent: 22 November 2004 09:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] yuzgen.com review please Hi, Can you please review this site? Site language is not English. http://yuzgen.com/ Thanks in advance, -- Boke Yuzgen __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] yuzgen.com review please
Interesting. Which validator are you using? By rights, it shouldn't validate as is, since XML requires an XML declaration (ie. ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-9?) when not using utf-8. Did you note the comment about lang attributes? RI Richard Ishida W3C contact info: http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ W3C Internationalization: http://www.w3.org/International/ Publication blog: http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boke Yuzgen Sent: 22 November 2004 12:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] yuzgen.com review please Idid it first, but my pages won't validate if I use UTF-8. --- Richard Ishida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please change html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en to html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=tr lang=tr Have you considered using UTF-8, rather than charset=iso-8859-9 ? Hope that helps, RI Richard Ishida W3C contact info: http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ W3C Internationalization: http://www.w3.org/International/ Publication blog: http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boke Yuzgen Sent: 22 November 2004 09:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] yuzgen.com review please Hi, Can you please review this site? Site language is not English. http://yuzgen.com/ Thanks in advance, -- Boke Yuzgen ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] choosing encoding, charset and using special characters
Hello Julin, At the W3C we wrote some material to answer your questions. Please see: http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/tutorial-char-enc/ and http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-character.html (still early draft!) Please take a look (and let me know if there is any way we can improve the material). Cheers, RI Richard Ishida W3C contact info: http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ W3C Internationalization: http://www.w3.org/International/ Publication blog: http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dejan Kozina Sent: 22 November 2004 01:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] choosing encoding, charset and using special characters Julin Landerreche wrote: 1) Question: Is there a way to use special characters directly in the code? Two ways, actually, both requiring the pages being displayed as utf-8. One is writing the document with an editor capable of saving text as utf-8 (Unired is the one I like - http://www.esperanto.mv.ru/UniRed/ENG/), so that anything you can key or paste in it will be stored correctly and rendered as expected, as long as you remember to put a meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 in your page's head. The other one is using a browser's form to input the text and send it to some sort of CMS. Provided the page with the form is utf-8 too, all modern browsers will convert the whole stuff to utf-8 while uploading. 2) I have seen a lot of webpages that directly use the special character and dont code them as html entities. This pages are displayed correctly. Question: Is this a good or bad practice (to use special characters in code, instead of entities)? According to my experience, it is OK to do it using Unicode, otherwise you're relying on unwarranted assumptions regarding the native codepage of the reader's machine (example: if you use an in your source it will probably be displayed as such on any Spanish and generally western language OS, but it will become a c on most Central European PCs). As long as you declare the encoding of your page, and that encoding contains the character you want to display, it is better to use characters rather than escapes. Apart from anything else, it improves maintainability and reduces bandwidth. 3. In Google results, I found that those special characters arent always correctly displayed. Google uses utf-8 for display, so your browser renders the title as if it was encoded as such. Question: Is there a way to force or override the encoding (not the charset) directly from the page code? I think that my textpattern managed pages should have ISO-8850-1 encoding. You presumably mean ISO-8859-1 (rather than 8850). Note that the W3C now serves its pages using utf-8. It makes life a lot easier when you have multilingual pages or a number of pages in multiple languages. You can try using the numeric character references (written as #xxx, where xxx is the decimal value of the character) or the hexadecimal ones (written as #x, where is the hex value of the same). The complete list of references is at ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/. Note that the numeric value MUST be a Unicode code point value, whatever the encoding you are using. There are easier ways of finding a Unicode code point. For example, you could try my UniView utility at http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/utilities.html 3. If I change to UTF-8... wich are the advantages / disvantages? The main advantages are correct rendering in all modern browsers - OSes, plus the possibility of hassle-free mixing of characters from any charset on a single page. Besides this, it is rapidly becoming the standard encoding for all sort of documents, on the web or otherwise. As alluded to above. Significant advantages also arise when receiving form data from multilingual pages and storing it centrally. You don't need to figure out which encoding was used, and convert. Hope that helps. RI There are disavantages: Netscape 4.7 mostly doesn't recognize the characters (except for the first 127 that are part of ASCII) and MacOS 9 and below has sometimes a weird way of displaying them. One final word about the document title: even if you place the above meta before the title tag and tweak your server to transmit the correct MIME type almost any browser around will still use the OS's default 'window title' font for the title, so it will be displayed as expected only if that font contains the required glyphs (or shapes). It will display correctly in Google listings, nevertheless. -- Dejan Kozina Web Design Studio Dolina 346 (TS) I-34018 Trst/Trieste - Italy tel./fax: +39 040 228 436 cell.: +39 348 7355 225 http://www.kozina.com/ e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [WSG] choosing encoding, charset and using special characters
Manuel Gonzlez Noriega wrote: [UTF-8] it will be stored correctly and rendered as expected, as long as you remember to put a meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" in your page's head. Actually, what you should be doing is getting the server to send the right content-type header. Meta elements are not authoritative and in fact lead many people to confusion when they are superceded by the server headers. You're right, of course. I still use to put the declaration in the meta just in case somebody wants to save the page to the disk (and because I still remember the good old days when I had no access to the server config). -- Dejan Kozina Web Design Studio Dolina 346 (TS) I-34018 Trst/Trieste - Italy tel./fax: +39 040 228 436 cell.: +39 348 7355 225 http://www.kozina.com/ e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin:vcard fn:Dejan Kozina n:Kozina;Dejan org:Dejan Kozina Web Design Studio adr:;;Dolina 346;Dolina;TS;I-34018;Italy email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:+39 348 7355 225 tel;fax:+39 040 228 436 tel;home:+39 040 228 436 tel;cell:+39 348 7355 225 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.kozina.com/ version:2.1 end:vcard
RE: [WSG] choosing encoding, charset and using special characters
Hola Manuel, Dejan, There are pros and cons to using the HTTP header to declare the encoding. At the W3C we recommend that you always declare encoding inside the document, whether or not you use the HTTP header. Unlike something like language declaration, the meta statement for character encoding declarations is very widely recognised, and is the only in-document means to declare encoding for HTML. If serving XHTML you need to also consider the pros and cons of using the XML declaration. For more detail, see http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/tutorial-char-enc/ and http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-character.html (still early draft!) Cheers, RI Richard Ishida W3C contact info: http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ W3C Internationalization: http://www.w3.org/International/ Publication blog: http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manuel González Noriega Sent: 22 November 2004 09:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] choosing encoding, charset and using special characters [UTF-8] it will be stored correctly and rendered as expected, as long as you remember to put a meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 in your page's head. Actually, what you should be doing is getting the server to send the right content-type header. Meta elements are not authoritative and in fact lead many people to confusion when they are superceded by the server headers. -- Manuel a veces :) a veces :( pero siempre trabajando duro para Simplelógica: apariencia, experiencia y comunicación en la web. http://simplelogica.net # (+34) 985 22 12 65 ¡Ah! y escribiendo en Logicola: http://simplelogica.net/logicola/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] choosing encoding, charset and using special characters
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:51:24 -, Richard Ishida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola Manuel, Dejan, There are pros and cons to using the HTTP header to declare the encoding. At the W3C we recommend that you always declare encoding inside the document, whether or not you use the HTTP header. Unlike something like language declaration, the meta statement for character encoding declarations is very widely recognised, and is the only in-document means to declare encoding for HTML. If serving XHTML you need to also consider the pros and cons of using the XML declaration. I stand corrected, I thought it was a much more clear scenario, where server headers were The Right Way and meta was almost irrelevant. I'll read those links carefully. -- Manuel a veces :) a veces :( pero siempre trabajando duro para Simplelógica: apariencia, experiencia y comunicación en la web. http://simplelogica.net # (+34) 985 22 12 65 ¡Ah! y escribiendo en Logicola: http://simplelogica.net/logicola/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site review - torresburriel.com
Very well done Senior Burriel!!! Excellent color scheme, layout, use of white space and navigation! My compliments, Mario S. Cisneros Hi all, I'd like you to review my personal site. All pages validate (I think) except the weblog section, under PMachine engine. http://www.torresburriel.com Thanks in advance! -- /* Daniel Torres Burriel - www.torresburriel.com /* Web design - Usability consulting - IT Press /* More info bio: www.torresburriel.com/perfil/ /* GPG key: 0x43DB2AB7 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site review - torresburriel.com
Daniel Torres Burriel wrote: Hi all! I'd like you to review my personal site. All pages validate (I think) except the weblog section, under PMachine engine. http://www.torresburriel.com Look out for the top section and those images... Absolute positioning there makes the page unreadable upon font-resizing. regards Georg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG]
Here's my situation: I have 2 divs on a page. top and topprint. In my screen style, #topprint is set to display:none; #top is styled and appears normal. In my print sheet, #top is set to display:none; and #topprint should... well... print. My problem is with Safari. In Safari, when I print a page, the contents of #topprint (one image, and that's it) prints as a ruled box in the dimensions of the image. All images are set to border:0; in both sheets. FF, IE6 all print fine. Is this a known Safari thing? Any help would be appreciated. Pages: http://66.155.251.18/mlinc/htmlsite/education/ -- - Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist mlinc.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Print Style Issue (was: Re: [WSG] )
Oops. No subject! So sorry!... Here's my situation: I have 2 divs on a page. top and topprint. In my screen style, #topprint is set to display:none; #top is styled and appears normal. In my print sheet, #top is set to display:none; and #topprint should... well... print. My problem is with Safari. In Safari, when I print a page, the contents of #topprint (one image, and that's it) prints as a ruled box in the dimensions of the image. All images are set to border:0; in both sheets. FF, IE6 all print fine. Is this a known Safari thing? Any help would be appreciated. Pages: http://66.155.251.18/mlinc/htmlsite/education/ -- - Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist mlinc.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- - Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist mlinc.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Help with suggestions
I visited your site. I understand it is a work in progress. There are too many comments I could make. I limited myself to those that need most attention first: 1. Why is there a doorway or front page? Such pages make me want to leave - not enter. It is downright unfriendly to expect me to waste my time reading your terms of use before I even see what the site is about. In marketing you have less than 1 minute - and typically, only one chance - to get the customer interested enough to enter your site - don't put up an unwelcome sign at the gate! Remove your front door and let them in right away. 2. What is the purpose of your site? It is not clear. I tried some of the links and still am confused. I gathered at one point that it is about a city/region in southern India. But, some of the links make me wonder what the real purpose is. 3. I did a screen shot of its appearance in Safari - sent directly to you separately. I send only one photo but the result of rendering the page is the same in Opera and Firefox. The top table is left bound and the main content sections are centered. This might be OK for small screens, but not for large screens like mine (23). 4. The site Map Quick Links menu is a nice start, but the actual links in there are NOT related to your real site map. Misnamed?! 5. Your HTML coding needs some order imposed. It works generally, but needs a lot of cleaning up. For starters there is no DOCTYPE declared - so it could not be validated in HTML 4.01 or XHTML 1.0 or 1.1. 6. Your CSS.. - well, it needs much more help. 7. Go to http://www.westciv.com/index.html and order their courses on HTML/XHTML and then get the CSS courses. I used them; and, in a short period of time I was easily coding XHTML and CSS. It isn't rocket science; and, the Westciv courses are among the best I've seen in terms of clarity of explanation of the steps to take in programming. 8. You can also go to http://www.internet.com and http://www.webreference.com for additional tutorials in XHTML, CSS and other tutorials on web design. 9. Finally - LOVED the elephant photos! Will Jensen Moscow, Russia [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 21, 2004, at 2:52 PM, dotcompals wrote: Dear all, I am a beginner. Please help me on www.TattaMangalam.com with its looks navigation. I'd prefer pure CSS HTML. regards Prashanth 7.gif>Prashanth Nair dotcompals Tattamangalam.P.O Palakkad Dt. Kerala (State) India-678102 http://www.TattaMangalam.Com Call: +91 94474 22736 ; +91 4923 227395 Useful Links www.KeralaClick.com for Stunning Images of Kerala Get Firefox!Safer/Faster/Better::: the Browser You can Trust Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! Get yours free!
[WSG] image captions?
Hi all,
I am putting a few small images into a body of text, and am defining a very
simple declaration for them, according to whether I want them flush left or
right:
e.g. .imgleft{ float : left; margin : 20px;}
Doing this enables me to have the body of the text flowing around the image,
with a nice 20px gap around it. However, I would like to add a small
caption to the image, underneath it. One or more of you will have already
done this I'm sure, so could you point me towards some CSS you have used or
seen?
Many thanks, as always,
Bob McClelland,
Cornwall (U.K.)
www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk
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RE: [WSG] image captions?
enter the ever popular definition list
dl class=image
dtimg.../dt
ddcaption/dd
/dl
This gives you lots of flexibility and keeps it semantic.
Ted
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To: webstandards group
Subject: [WSG] image captions?
Hi all,
I am putting a few small images into a body of text, and am defining a very
simple declaration for them, according to whether I want them flush left or
right:
e.g. .imgleft{ float : left; margin : 20px;}
Doing this enables me to have the body of the text flowing around the image,
with a nice 20px gap around it. However, I would like to add a small
caption to the image, underneath it. One or more of you will have already
done this I'm sure, so could you point me towards some CSS you have used or
seen?
Many thanks, as always,
Bob McClelland,
Cornwall (U.K.)
www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk
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RE: [WSG] yuzgen.com review please
Lang attributes: Fixed. UTF-8 instead of ISO: Here's the validator's message: Sorry, I am unable to validate this document because on lines 7-9, 11, 79, 84, 86-87, 89-92, 101, 104-107, 114 it contained one or more bytes that I cannot interpret as utf-8 (in other words, the bytes found are not valid values in the specified Character Encoding). Please check both the content of the file and the character encoding indication. It doesn't like the Turkish characters. I simply won't write any UTF-8 codes while writing an article to my web site. If it doesn't validate my web page some day some how because of Turkish characters, I won't mind if my pages render correct. If my pages don't render correct with the Turkish characters in the code, I will use Flash. ;) Because English speaking people can simply write for the web by hitting one character they know. Why shoulf non-English speaking people like me bother character entities etc? Also, I know I can use findreplace on multi files at the same time, but I won't do that. Then I will have to backup two copies of each page (eg. if I want to use my text elsewhere, what will I do then? Reconvert to the original?). - Why? - Because W3C said so. Thank you for your comment. --- Boke Yuzgen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will fix lang when I go home. I'm at work now. I use W3C's validator. I will also post the error it reports when I use UTF-8 when I go home. Thank you, --- Richard Ishida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. Which validator are you using? By rights, it shouldn't validate as is, since XML requires an XML declaration (ie. ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-9?) when not using utf-8. Did you note the comment about lang attributes? RI Richard Ishida W3C contact info: http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ W3C Internationalization: http://www.w3.org/International/ Publication blog: http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boke Yuzgen Sent: 22 November 2004 12:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] yuzgen.com review please Idid it first, but my pages won't validate if I use UTF-8. --- Richard Ishida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please change html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en to html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=tr lang=tr Have you considered using UTF-8, rather than charset=iso-8859-9 ? Hope that helps, RI Richard Ishida W3C contact info: http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ W3C Internationalization: http://www.w3.org/International/ Publication blog: http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boke Yuzgen Sent: 22 November 2004 09:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] yuzgen.com review please Hi, Can you please review this site? Site language is not English. http://yuzgen.com/ Thanks in advance, -- Boke Yuzgen ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] image captions?
greetings,
e.g. .imgleft{ float : left; margin : 20px;}
Doing this enables me to have the body of the text flowing around the image,
with a nice 20px gap around it. However, I would like to add a small
caption to the image, underneath it. One or more of you will have already
done this I'm sure, so could you point me towards some CSS you have used or
seen?
why don't you put the image plus caption into a div and float that div?
div class=imgleft
img /br /
caption text
/div
just an idea before hitting the sack here, i hope i'm being sensible, hehe.
cheers,
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[WSG] turkish text - can you assign a language or encoding to a div?
If you are doing a web site and you only have sporadic use of turkish characters, can't you wrap that text in a div and assign it a language? I haven't done this before so I'm asking not suggesting. But I thought that I have seen that as a semantic way to show that there will be languages other than the native on a page. Now, is there also a way to designate the character encoding on a div or span? Ted Lang attributes: Fixed. UTF-8 instead of ISO: Here's the validator's message: Sorry, I am unable to validate this document because on lines 7-9, 11, 79, 84, 86-87, 89-92, 101, 104-107, 114 it contained one or more bytes that I cannot interpret as utf-8 (in other words, the bytes found are not valid values in the specified Character Encoding). Please check both the content of the file and the character encoding indication. It doesn't like the Turkish characters. I simply won't write any UTF-8 codes while writing an article to my web site. If it doesn't validate my web page some day some how because of Turkish characters, I won't mind if my pages render correct. If my pages don't render correct with the Turkish characters in the code, I will use Flash. ;) Because English speaking people can simply write for the web by hitting one character they know. Why shoulf non-English speaking people like me bother character entities etc? Also, I know I can use findreplace on multi files at the same time, but I won't do that. Then I will have to backup two copies of each page (eg. if I want to use my text elsewhere, what will I do then? Reconvert to the original?). - Why? - Because W3C said so. Thank you for your comment. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML
Hi group. I'm wondering if there's some easy (and free) way to convert text from a WORD document into clean XHTML that retains the formatting. Thanks. -- ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML
I do not know of a program you can download to work on your computer. But Dean Allen of Textism fame has this online. http://textism.com/wordcleaner/ Tim Hill Computer Associates Graphic Artist tel: +612 9937 0792 fax: +612 9937 0546 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2004 9:10 AM To: web standards group Subject: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML Hi group. I'm wondering if there's some easy (and free) way to convert text from a WORD document into clean XHTML that retains the formatting. Thanks. -- ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML
There is a tool in Dreamweaver that can auto generate but I must admit I have never used it ... a plugin that works in [ free xcellent ] HTML-Kit - http://www.chami.com/html-kit/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2004 9:10 AM To: web standards group Subject: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML Hi group. I'm wondering if there's some easy (and free) way to convert text from a WORD document into clean XHTML that retains the formatting. Thanks. -- ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML
XStandard will do this on-the-fly. It's a WYSIWYG editor plugin for CMSs, not a stand-alone product. http://www.xstandard.com/ Paul Hempsall Web Developer Lake Macquarie City Council Tel: (02) 4921 0713 Fax: (02) 4958 7257 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.lakemac.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2004 9:10 AM To: web standards group Subject: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML Hi group. I'm wondering if there's some easy (and free) way to convert text from a WORD document into clean XHTML that retains the formatting. Thanks. -- ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** This information is intended for the addressee only. The use, copying or distribution of this message or any information it contains, by anyone other than the addressee is prohibited by the sender. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Council. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML
Wybrow, Mark wrote: I'm wondering if there's some easy (and free) way to convert text from a WORD document into clean XHTML that retains the formatting. I have been using this from MS http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=209adbee-3fbd-482c-83b0-96fb79b74ded It is Office 2000 HTML Filter 2.0.. Not xhtml, but clean html http://tidy.sf.net can be used as a plugin on some xhtml -wysiwyg editors (search this list) Yours, Antti Tuppurainen System Specialist Timecan Finland | http://www.timecan.fi Personal | http://antti.tuppurainen.fi ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML
john wrote: I'm wondering if there's some easy (and free) way to convert text from a WORD document into clean XHTML that retains the formatting. If you have Dreamweaver, try using the 'Clean Up Word HTML Tool'. Then 'Convert to XHTML'. Any gunk left over after that is easily cleaned out using a few decent regular expressions in the 'Find and Replace' Cheers, Lachlan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML
I've always found that you still need to eyeball the code because Word does some very strange things to lists, and headings in particular. Also a lot of Word documents are not styled properly to begin with (e.g. bold+font-size, instead of headings) which leads to added complexity to resolve. Terrence Wood. On 2004-11-23 12:19 PM, Lachlan Hardy wrote: john wrote: I'm wondering if there's some easy (and free) way to convert text from a WORD document into clean XHTML that retains the formatting. If you have Dreamweaver, try using the 'Clean Up Word HTML Tool'. Then 'Convert to XHTML'. Any gunk left over after that is easily cleaned out using a few decent regular expressions in the 'Find and Replace' Cheers, Lachlan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- *** Are you in the Wellington area and interested in web standards? Wellington Web Standards Group inaugural meeting 9 Dec 2004. See http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/event24.cfm for details *** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site critique please
I like the design. You're getting a couple of CSS validation errors. Also, I think you should be consistent in the positioning of your main menu. If you need the left column for sub-navigation inside the site, then use the horizontal style on the home page as well. Damian Hi everyone Would very much appreciate feedback as to any problems or mistakes. Thank you. www.mwg.green.net.au/testpages/mwgindex.html Lyn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site critique please
Hi Lyn, I really like the color scheme and navigation! Excellent use of white space. My only suggestions would be to export what appears to be a backgound image as a jpg because it's a gradient and if you look close enough you'll notice that it's producing a banding effect (ripples), which detracts from it's appeal. Also, the Welcome text looks amateurish, and centering the first and last paragraphs under the Welcome text looks awkward. Nice Job! Respectfully yours, Mario Hi everyone Would very much appreciate feedback as to any problems or mistakes. Thank you. www.mwg.green.net.au/testpages/mwgindex.html Lyn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Site critique please
Once again, the everpopular dl list to the rescue div id=right dl dtJANUARY/dt dd class=nomeetingNo meeting this month. First meeting for the year will be Tuesday 15 February./dd dd Our speaker will be member and well-known local amateur botanist strongPeg Foreman/strong/dd /div This would be more proper than having all of the inline styles and br tags. It also gives you the flexibility to add colors and other styles. Ted div id=right pJANUARY br br span style=color: rgb(8, 128, 0);No meeting this month. First meeting for the year will be Tuesday 15 February./span br br Our speaker will be member and well-known local amateur botanistspan style=color: rgb(213, 42, 0); Peg Foreman/span br /p /div -Original Message- From: Lyn Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Site critique please Hi everyone Would very much appreciate feedback as to any problems or mistakes. Thank you. www.mwg.green.net.au/testpages/mwgindex.html Lyn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Fangs Screen Reader Emulator
I've just a cool firefox extension: Fangs: The Firefox Screen Reader Emulator at standards-schmandards. The developer has released it so the they can get feedback and suggestions. http://www.standards-schmandards.com/index.php?2004/11/22/8-fangs-release-05 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site critique please
Lyn, It may be worth your taking a look at the site with a reasonably high resolution set...some of the background images don't work so well (IMO) at high resolutions (eg 1280 x 1024) Cheers Steve Hi everyone Would very much appreciate feedback as to any problems or mistakes. Thank you. www.mwg.green.net.au/testpages/mwgindex.html Lyn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML
On 23/11/04 9:19 AM, Wybrow, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a tool in Dreamweaver that can auto generate but I must admit I have never used it ... I've found that the Clean Word HTML command in Dreamweaver helps but still leaves too much junk I don't want. If you use Mac OS, cut and paste from Word into AppleWorks and then save as an html document. If you use Windows, there might be another word processing app that will give you cleaner html. If there is still some junk coding from the AppleWorks produced html page, I get rid of it with Find and Replace. I'd love a better system to this work-around that I use, so I too will be interested to hear what others do. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML
Textism have a word cleaner that works quite well: http://textism.com/wordcleaner/ On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:45:30 +1100, Hope A. Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23/11/04 9:19 AM, Wybrow, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a tool in Dreamweaver that can auto generate but I must admit I have never used it ... I've found that the Clean Word HTML command in Dreamweaver helps but still leaves too much junk I don't want. If you use Mac OS, cut and paste from Word into AppleWorks and then save as an html document. If you use Windows, there might be another word processing app that will give you cleaner html. If there is still some junk coding from the AppleWorks produced html page, I get rid of it with Find and Replace. I'd love a better system to this work-around that I use, so I too will be interested to hear what others do. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Gmail invites - just ask nicely ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/
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Re: [WSG] Web Standards Eye Candy: http://www.scottschiller.com/
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Re: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML
john wrote: I'm wondering if there's some easy (and free) way to convert text from a WORD document into clean XHTML that retains the formatting. Another addition: I just remembered that recent versions of Word allow you to save as HTML, Filtered. This is MS-speak for removing all Office specific tags. You still get that MSo-style rubbish, but it clears some of the more awkward stuff out straight away ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] please unsubscribe me
To whom it may concern, I joined this web group as part of the research i'm undertaking for my masters at uts and i've enjoyed the communication very much. i wish there was someway i could maintain my connection with this group for future reference without receiving daily posts, if there is a method could you please instruct me, otherwise could you please unsubscribe me. I Thank You in advance. Sarah Moss ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Correct use of fieldset
Hi all, This is my first time posting to this forum, so...hi there! Question: Is it acceptable to use fieldset tag outside of the form element? The official word from the W3C states: "The FIELDSET element allows authors to group thematically related controls and labels. Grouping controls makes it easier for users to understand their purpose while simultaneously facilitating tabbing navigation for visual user agents and speech navigation for speech-oriented user agents. The proper use of this element makes documents more accessible." (http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#edef-FIELDSET) They then go on to give an example using form fieldsetlegendPersonal Information/legend Last Name: input name="personal_lastname" type="text" tabindex="1" / First Name: input name="personal_firstname" type="text" tabindex="2" / Address: input name="personal_address" type="text" tabindex="3" / ...more personal information.../fieldset/blockquote Every example I've come across so far (and I've seen *a lot* of examples) has used it within this context. Is it just that grouping input is the most logical and common used example? Or can it be used in other contexts? For example, can it be uses to group a number of related links together? It could be that I'm thinking too hard about something that's really not that big an issue? But it just struck me as something I should look into. Cheers Brad Lucashttp://brad-lucas.org --- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE5/Mac Help
On 23 Nov 2004, at 12:12 PM, Jonathan T. Sage wrote: If someone on IE5/Mac could shoot me a screenshot of this, I would be forever grateful. trying to create a IE5/Mac safe layout. Only about 1.5% of my audience base seems to use IE5/Mac, but I know the current stylesheet makes it a bit unhappy. http://thr.msu.edu/People/test.html Jonathan - IE5.2.3 / OSX 10.3.6 - your page is appearing unstyled. Plain default text, white background, rendering in code order. Something to do with the @import syntax? N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE5/Mac Help
Nick Gleitzman wrote: Something to do with the @import syntax? I don't have Mac IE handy, but Mac IE doesn't like single quotes in the import, it wants double. .Matthew Cruickshank http://holloway.co.nz/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] converting WORD text into clean XHTML
I asked much the same question a little while back and what I got together was: First have the doc saved as HTML (Filtered) if it's coming from Word 2003 (earlier versions can get the filtered thingy someone else mentioned). Then in my case I wrote a filter for the content management system I built to pass the Word HTML through. What you could do is use one of the implementations of Tidy ( http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ ) e.g. For a web version try: http://infohound.net/tidy/ ...As I type this I'm just testing it on a big Word filtered HTML doc... and yes it seems to do a decent job. Nick Hi group. I'm wondering if there's some easy (and free) way to convert text from a WORD document into clean XHTML that retains the formatting. Thanks. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Correct use of fieldset
On 23/11/2004, at 2:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every example I've come across so far (and I've seen *a lot* of examples) has used it within this context. Is it just that grouping input is the most logical and common used example? Or can it be used in other contexts? It's only intended to group form controls, and I think the spec is pretty clear on that. The FIELDSET element allows authors to group thematically related controls and labels. In the case of DLs, the spec gives a bit of leeway as to what they can be used for, but there's no such leeway here. Now, I can't see anything that implies the FIELDSET *must* contain FORM controls, but the only way to be sure you're valid is to validate the mark-up. Personally, I imagine that the FIELDSET tag would throw off a number of browsers, and most definitely confuse users relying on screen readers, etc, and don't see the point in bending a tag like this to do things it wasn't meant to do. For example, can it be uses to group a number of related links together? A better way to group links is in a UL or OL, then style to suit (even display:inline;) Justin French --- http://justinfrench.com http://indent.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] please unsubscribe me - ADMIN
Please don't send these requests to the list. To unsubscribe, please go to http://webstandardsgroup.org/ log in and select Unsubscribe. There is a password retrieval system on the login screen in case you have forgotten your password. If you have trouble or want to comment on the running of the list please email list admin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Russ To whom it may concern, I joined this web group as part of the research i'm undertaking for my masters at uts and i've enjoyed the communication very much. i wish there was someway i could maintain my connection with this group for future reference without receiving daily posts, if there is a method could you please instruct me, otherwise could you please unsubscribe me. I Thank You in advance. Sarah Moss ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Correct use of fieldset
Hi Brad Welcome to the list. According to the HTML 4.01 DTD, Fieldset can live outside a form block. But it you find yourself putting outside one you're probably due for a sanity check. Are you using it for semantic purposes or just for presentational purposes? If you're using it for semantic purposes (to group a set of fields together), you'll probably want to check why you are putting form fields outside a form - they are pretty useless out there! If you're using it for presentational purposes, then the hardcore standards crew will probably put a hex on you and your family. This is basically the same as using tables for visual layout. If you can do the same thing using more appropriate elements and some CSS, you'll be blessed with eternal good karma and will be worshipped as a standards guru by the millions of list members. Enjoy. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Correct use of fieldset
Sorry missed one part of your post: For example, can it be uses to group a number of related links together? I'd suggest that Fieldset in this context is meaningless - its not ArchorSet, its FieldSet - its for form fields. Use a list (ul or ol) for links. -- Mark Stanton Gruden Pty Ltd http://www.gruden.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Correct use of fieldset
Hi guys, Many thanks for your advice on the subject. I guesskind of got caught up in the part that said"the proper use of this element makes documents more accessible." I've never actually sat down and properly read through these documents "cover to cover" and so I've started pickinga different chapter each month to read through. When I got to the fieldset section I got a littleover-excited:-) Cheers Brad http://brad-lucas.org --- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] turkish text - can you assign a language or encoding to a div?
On 22 nov 2004, at 23.00, Ted Drake wrote: If you are doing a web site and you only have sporadic use of turkish characters, can't you wrap that text in a div and assign it a language? I haven't done this before so I'm asking not suggesting. But I thought that I have seen that as a semantic way to show that there will be languages other than the native on a page. Now, is there also a way to designate the character encoding on a div or span? Language, yes. You can use the lang attribute [1] to specify the language of any HTML element. Character encoding, no. That is set once for the whole document. [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/dirlang.html#adef-lang /Roger -- http://www.456bereastreet.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] W3C Event - XML Workshop, Brisbane - 14 January 2005
Hi all.. Just saw the following page which I thought looked interesting: XML Workshop, Brisbane - 14 January 2005 DSTC and the Australian W3C Office is pleased to present an intensive one day workshop on W3C's XML activities by the international experts creating XML Recommendations. The workshop preceeds a series of W3C Members-only XML Working Group meetings being held in Brisbane in early January. This will be the first time such a large group of XML experts will be in Australia providing local IT professionals with a rare opportunity to hear the latest from these XML leaders. The XML Workshop will be held at the Queensland Government's Information Industries Bureau http://www.iib.qld.gov.au/, Brisbane. Presenters presentations/xmlworkshop_bios.html will cover topics such as XML Schema, XSLT 2.0, XQuery 1.0 and XPath. *When:* Friday, 14 January 2005 *Where:* Level 2, Leighton House, 143 Coronation Drive, Milton Kings Parking located opposite Leighton House in Little Cribb Street. (Please arrive early to avoid traffic congestion at the car park entrance A registration fee $30.00 is charged to cover catering costs. Registration https://www.dstc.edu.au/w3c/registration.php is open and being taken through a secure page. [URL: http://w3c.dstc.edu.au/eventsOz.html ] Not a bad price either! Ralph ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
