Re: [WSG] Thumbnail Image overlapping container DIV - Help Please

2005-02-05 Thread David Laakso
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:00:47 +1100, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a problem with a site that I am working on, in that I have a
http://220.233.11.63:8080/
..
Cheers,
Matt
Matt,
Took forever and a day to load Opera7.54.u1-- gave up, switched to FF1.0,  
and it crashed the browser.
David

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[WSG] Is a list required for horizontal navigation?

2005-02-05 Thread standards
Good morning mates,

I have a navigation bar with four links that uses a style sheet to control
it's placement and presentation at the top of my site, but I did not place
them in a Unordered List because the links naturally align themselves
horizontally.

Therefore, I thought I'd ask if this is considered semantically correct?
I've eliminated unnecessary markup, and used a style sheet to control the
menu's presentation. The id controls the placement, and the class styles
the links:

div id=container
a href=/index.htm class=topnavbar title=HomeHome/a
img src=/Images/markers/bullet.gif width=8 height=8 alt= /
a href=/press-room/press-room.htm class=topnavbar title=Press
RoomPress Room/a
img src=/Images/markers/bullet.gif width=8 height=8 alt= /
a href=/sitemap.htm class=topnavbar title=Site MapSite Map/a
img src=/Images/markers/bullet.gif width=8 height=8 alt= /
a href=/contact.htm class=topnavbar title=Contact UsContact Us/a
/div

Respectfully,
Mario S. Cisneros


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Re: [WSG] 2 Column Symetrical Stretching Layout?

2005-02-05 Thread Joey
Hi Drew,
I removed the 45% margin from #right but this still never worked:
This is what i did:
*
Before:* #right{width:45%; background-color:#00FF00; padding:0; margin:0 
0 0 45%;}
*After:* #right{width:45%; background-color:#00FF00; padding:0; margin:0;}

Does anyone have any ideas on how to solve this? I dont want to resort 
to tables to get a 50% 50% 2 column stretching layout.

Im a novice with CSS/XHTML, but i feel im picking it up fast, but this 
simple layout i cant seem to do.

Cheers,
Josef
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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Joey
*Sent:* Friday, February 04, 2005 12:53 PM
*To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
*Subject:* Re: [WSG] 2 Column Symetrical Stretching Layout?
Hi Tom,
Thanks for that solution, but unfortunately it doesnt work,
because i get a horizontal scrollbar at the bottom of the page, in
both Firefox and IE. Does anyone else have any solutions for this?
Thanks
Josef
Tom Livingston wrote:
This worked for me:
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;
html
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1
titleUntitled Document/title
style type=text/css
#main{width:100%; padding:0 50px 0 50px; margin:0;}
#left{width:45%; background-color:#FF; padding:0; margin:0;
float:left;}
#right{width:45%; background-color:#00FF00; padding:0; margin:0 0
0 45%;}
/style
/head
body
div id=main
div id=leftnbsp;br/div
div id=rightnbsp;br/div
/div
/body
/html 

 ==
 
Remove the 45% margin #right and it will work fine. 
 
drew  

 

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Re: [WSG] Thumbnail Image overlapping container DIV - Help Please

2005-02-05 Thread Bennie Shepherd
Those thumbnails are rather large for their size. The first one was 
around 120k.

On 2/5/2005 4:04:25 AM, wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote:
 On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:00:47 +1100, Matt wrote:
  I have a problem with a site that I am working on, in that I have a
  http://220.233.11.63:8080/
 ..
  Cheers,
  Matt

 Matt,
 Took forever and a day to load Opera7.54.u1-- gave up, switched to 
FF1.0,

 and it crashed the browser.
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Re: [WSG] 2 Column Symetrical Stretching Layout?

2005-02-05 Thread David Laakso
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 13:11:26 +, Joey [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Hi Drew,
I removed the 45% margin from #right but this still never worked:
This is what i did:
*
Before:* #right{width:45%; background-color:#00FF00; padding:0; margin:0  
0 0 45%;}
*After:* #right{width:45%; background-color:#00FF00; padding:0;  
margin:0;}

Does anyone have any ideas on how to solve this? I dont want to resort  
to tables to get a 50% 50% 2 column stretching layout.

Im a novice with CSS/XHTML, but i feel im picking it up fast, but this  
simple layout i cant seem to do.

Cheers,
Josef
.
Not  sure if this will meet your need:
#left {
border: 1px dotted red;
height: 100%;
margin: 0;
overflow: hidden;
padding: 0;
text-align: center;
width: 50%;
}
#right {
border: 1px dashed blue;
height: 100%;
left: 50%;
margin-left: -2px;
position: absolute;
text-align: center;
top: 0;
width: 50%;
z-index: 2;
}
div id=right
pright/p
/div
div id=left
pleft/p
/div
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Re: [WSG] 2 Column Symetrical Stretching Layout?

2005-02-05 Thread Joey
Hi David,
I tried that solution, but it also never worked, i uploaded it here:
http://www.burninthespotlight.com/cssprob/ll/css_50_50.htm
Is it really that difficult to create a simple 2 column layout in CSS? 
Im beggining to doubt CSS if this is the case. All i need is a 2 column 
layout with each column being 50% and when u stretch the browser each 
column increases (but both stay at 50%)

Here is a table version of what i am trying to acheive: 
http://www.burninthespotlight.com/cssprob/ll/table_50_50.htm

I hope some one has a solution...
Cheers people,
Josef
David Laakso wrote:
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 13:11:26 +, Joey 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

Hi Drew,
I removed the 45% margin from #right but this still never worked:
This is what i did:
*
Before:* #right{width:45%; background-color:#00FF00; padding:0; 
margin:0  0 0 45%;}
*After:* #right{width:45%; background-color:#00FF00; padding:0;  
margin:0;}

Does anyone have any ideas on how to solve this? I dont want to 
resort  to tables to get a 50% 50% 2 column stretching layout.

Im a novice with CSS/XHTML, but i feel im picking it up fast, but 
this  simple layout i cant seem to do.

Cheers,
Josef
.
Not  sure if this will meet your need:
#left {
border: 1px dotted red;
height: 100%;
margin: 0;
overflow: hidden;
padding: 0;
text-align: center;
width: 50%;
}
#right {
border: 1px dashed blue;
height: 100%;
left: 50%;
margin-left: -2px;
position: absolute;
text-align: center;
top: 0;
width: 50%;
z-index: 2;
}
div id=right
pright/p
/div
div id=left
pleft/p
/div
David
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[WSG] Hello fellow Web Standards people!

2005-02-05 Thread Zachary Hopkins
Hello!
I've just recently joined the WSG to get some tips, and I just wanted to 
say hello and introduce myself.
My name is Zachary Hopkins, I'm 17 years old and I've been working with 
XHTML, CSS, and accessible web standards such as WAI and 508 for about 6 
months now, and I really like them!  You can check my website out at 
http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/.  I'm doing my best to make sure that 
it is an accessible and standards based website.  I welcome any comments 
or suggestions, as I love to learn about new things and new ways to do them.

I have been trying to test how my site looks on Mac and *nix based 
systems, so if any of you have a free moment, perhaps you could open up 
my site in Camino, Konqueror or Safari and let me know how it looks?

Thank you!
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Re: [WSG] 2 Column Symetrical Stretching Layout?

2005-02-05 Thread Gunlaug Srtun
Joey wrote:
Is it really that difficult to create a simple 2 column layout in 
CSS? Im beggining to doubt CSS if this is the case. All i need is a 2
 column layout with each column being 50% and when u stretch the 
browser each column increases (but both stay at 50%)

Here is a table version of what i am trying to acheive: 
http://www.burninthespotlight.com/cssprob/ll/table_50_50.htm

I hope some one has a solution...
Well, my old list a table doesn't fill the browser-window, but the
method is the same no matter what it is supposed to fill.
http://www.gunlaug.no/homesite/main_8_7.html
... bilingual, select language on arrival.
Maybe it's a bit more than you asked for, but there's no tables
involved - just some CSS and (x)html-elements. Simplify it and use other
elements, and you can create pretty much any table look-alike you can
come up with.
My solution is flexible within a flexible column, and it will stay just
as flexible if you recreate it on its own. The code for that part is in
the page-head-- included IE/win corrections.
(Never - ever - underestimate CSS :) )
regards
Georg
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Re: [WSG] Hello fellow Web Standards people!

2005-02-05 Thread John Britsios
Zachary welcome at WSG!

My suggestions:

To your page MarkUp:
1. HTML 4.01 and XHTML require the legend element in fieldsets. Use this
element immediately after the fieldset start tag.

To your page accessibility:
1. The input element (when type=image) requires the alt attribute to
specify a text equivalent. The text equivalent should be a short phrase that
succinctly identifies the image and makes its function clear. However, use
alt= when appropriate, such as when images are intended to format a page
(such as spacer images). [Section 1194.22 (a)]

2. The input element (when type=image) requires the alt attribute to
specify a text equivalent. The text equivalent should be a short phrase that
succinctly identifies the image and makes its function clear. However, use
alt= when appropriate, such as when images are intended to format a page
(such as spacer images). [P1, 1.1]

John S. Britsios

- Original Message - 
From: Zachary Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Web Standards Group wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: [WSG] Hello fellow Web Standards people!


 Hello!

 I've just recently joined the WSG to get some tips, and I just wanted to
 say hello and introduce myself.
 My name is Zachary Hopkins, I'm 17 years old and I've been working with
 XHTML, CSS, and accessible web standards such as WAI and 508 for about 6
 months now, and I really like them!  You can check my website out at
 http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/.  I'm doing my best to make sure that
 it is an accessible and standards based website.  I welcome any comments
 or suggestions, as I love to learn about new things and new ways to do
them.

 I have been trying to test how my site looks on Mac and *nix based
 systems, so if any of you have a free moment, perhaps you could open up
 my site in Camino, Konqueror or Safari and let me know how it looks?

 Thank you!

 --Zachary Hopkins

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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [WSG] colour contrast analyser

2005-02-05 Thread Carl Reynolds
Andreas Boehmer wrote:
a colour contrast analyser,
useful for checking  foreground  background colour combinations
is now available.
(http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/contrast_analyser/index.html)
   

I like it. The colour picker is useful. But it seems you cannot manually
enter HEX codes? 
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Steven,
Very nice tool.
Andreas mentioned he can't enter hex vales for the color. I am able to 
enter a hex value for color, but I notice that the color sample doesn't 
change until you have entered the sixth digit of the value and if you 
enter less than six digits moving focus to a different field doesn't 
change the color at all.

Two options would be to modify the color in the sample as the user types 
the value or to analyse the hex value when the focus changes out of the 
text field.

If the hex value is three digits long it would be nice if the program 
used the three digit code to create the color sample.

Carl.

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Re: [WSG] Hello fellow Web Standards people!

2005-02-05 Thread Zachary Hopkins
Thank you John!
I will get these items updated today!
--Zachary
John Britsios wrote:
Zachary welcome at WSG!
My suggestions:
To your page MarkUp:
1. HTML 4.01 and XHTML require the legend element in fieldsets. Use this
element immediately after the fieldset start tag.
To your page accessibility:
1. The input element (when type=image) requires the alt attribute to
specify a text equivalent. The text equivalent should be a short phrase that
succinctly identifies the image and makes its function clear. However, use
alt= when appropriate, such as when images are intended to format a page
(such as spacer images). [Section 1194.22 (a)]
2. The input element (when type=image) requires the alt attribute to
specify a text equivalent. The text equivalent should be a short phrase that
succinctly identifies the image and makes its function clear. However, use
alt= when appropriate, such as when images are intended to format a page
(such as spacer images). [P1, 1.1]
John S. Britsios
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From: Zachary Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Web Standards Group wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: [WSG] Hello fellow Web Standards people!

 

Hello!
I've just recently joined the WSG to get some tips, and I just wanted to
say hello and introduce myself.
My name is Zachary Hopkins, I'm 17 years old and I've been working with
XHTML, CSS, and accessible web standards such as WAI and 508 for about 6
months now, and I really like them!  You can check my website out at
http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/.  I'm doing my best to make sure that
it is an accessible and standards based website.  I welcome any comments
or suggestions, as I love to learn about new things and new ways to do
   

them.
 

I have been trying to test how my site looks on Mac and *nix based
systems, so if any of you have a free moment, perhaps you could open up
my site in Camino, Konqueror or Safari and let me know how it looks?
Thank you!
--Zachary Hopkins
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Re: [WSG] 2 Column Symetrical Stretching Layout?

2005-02-05 Thread IChao
you might try
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/columnswapping.html
Ingo Chao
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[WSG] design of Macromedia site

2005-02-05 Thread ByteDreams


A long while back I ran across an article someplace explaining how those
content boxes and the images on macromedia's website were created.  I love
this style, and was looking for a similar tutorial.  Anyone know?

Thanks 
 

ByteDreams

 

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[WSG] WAI checkpoint 13.1 Help

2005-02-05 Thread Zachary Hopkins
On my website, http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/, I use CSS background 
images instead of the img tag.  So, I have hyper linked 
background-images, if that makes sense, and they have no actual link 
text.  Watchfire's WebXACT (http://webxact.watchfire.com/) accessibility 
validator is giving me an error with WAI Priority 2, Checkpoint 13.1.  I 
understand why I am getting the error, but I am not sure of the best way 
to correct it, as I do not want text covering up the images.
Any suggestions?

= Sample Code of my link =
a href=http://place.com/; title=Link Title 
style=display:block;width:80px;height:15px;background-image:url('img.png');/a
==

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Re: [WSG] WAI checkpoint 13.1 Help

2005-02-05 Thread Terrence Wood
The links on your page where you use image replacement do not contain 
any text, this is what is causing the errors. Basically what the report 
says is that you can't use the same link text with differing href's... 
in your case the link text is an empty string.

Remove empty lines from your code so you can follow the line numbers as 
reported, and it should all make sense.

You need to look at image replacement techniques.
see: http://www.google.com/search?q=css%20image%20replacement
Terrence Wood.
Zachary Hopkins wrote:
Any suggestions?
= Sample Code of my link =
a href=http://place.com/; title=Link Title 
style=display:block;width:80px;height:15px;background-image:url('img.png');/a
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re: [WSG] design of Macromedia site

2005-02-05 Thread csslist
not sure which 1 ur talking bout but communitymx.com showed how to do it this week   Recreating Macromedia's Layout Macromedia's current web site layout contains two effects that are very popular today: equal-height columns and rounded corners on columns and boxes. When these two effects are combined, it creates a slick and impressive looking web site. Although there are numerous articles out there describing how to achieve both of these effects in CSS, there is not much written about how to achieve both of them in conjunction. Surprisingly, the effect can be quite simple to achieve, as our deconstruction of Macromedia's site will reveal. We'll show you how they achieve this layout feat, then describe an alternative way to produce the rounded corner effect that is more streamlined.  Send http://www.communitymx.com/abstract.cfm?cid=AC5AC  if ur not a member it will cost ya a few bucks but well worth it, they have been putting on lots of this stuff lately   From: "ByteDreams" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 8:56 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: [WSG] design of Macromedia siteA long while back I ran across an article someplace explaining how thosecontent boxes and the images on macromedia's website were created. I lovethis style, and was looking for a similar tutorial. Anyone know?Thanks  ByteDreams **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list  getting help**


Re: [WSG] WAI checkpoint 13.1 Help

2005-02-05 Thread Zachary Hopkins
It seems that adding in hidden text would be the best way.
Thanks!
--Zachary
Terrence Wood wrote:
The links on your page where you use image replacement do not contain 
any text, this is what is causing the errors. Basically what the 
report says is that you can't use the same link text with differing 
href's... in your case the link text is an empty string.

Remove empty lines from your code so you can follow the line numbers 
as reported, and it should all make sense.

You need to look at image replacement techniques.
see: http://www.google.com/search?q=css%20image%20replacement
Terrence Wood.
Zachary Hopkins wrote:
Any suggestions?
= Sample Code of my link =
a href=http://place.com/; title=Link Title 
style=display:block;width:80px;height:15px;background-image:url('img.png');/a 

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