[WSG] alphabetic horizontal list problem

2005-07-22 Thread Stephanie




I need to create an alphabetic 
horizontal list to link to content on a page - problem I am having is that I 
want to float the list right but when I do that the alphabetic list is ordered 
from Z - A instead of A - Z.

Any clue as to how to solve 
this problem?

Stephanie Champion




Re: [WSG] alphabetic horizontal list problem

2005-07-22 Thread Gary Menzel
If the list is a ul/ul based list you should be able to float the ul right.

If that is giving problems then you might need to wrap a div around it and float the div right.

The following code uses a bit of JS to make getting the list easier, but has a floated right ul (with appropriate inline style on the li) and seems to work correctly...



htmlheadstylebody{font: 10pt 'Lucida Grande',Arial,Tahoma,Verdana,Helvetica,sans-serif;}#index1{float: right;}#index1 li
{display: inline;margin-left: 3px;margin-right: 3px;}/style
/head
body
ul id=index1scriptvar alphabet = ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ;for(i=0;i26;i++){document.write(li+alphabet.substr(i,1)+/li);
}/script/ul
/body/html




Regards,
Gary

On 7/22/05, Stephanie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I need to create an alphabetic horizontal list to link to content on a page - problem I am having is that I want to float the list right but when I do that the alphabetic list is ordered from Z - A instead of A - Z.


Any clue as to how to solve this problem?

Stephanie Champion




[WSG] Border-style: double Experiments

2005-07-22 Thread Julián Landerreche

Hi all,
well, I think this is my first e-mail to this great list (or at least, 
one of the first ones). I have been reading since more than 1 year, and 
I have learned a lot.


I have been experimenting with double borders in CSS.
They are really cool. Lot of weird/cool effects can be achieved by using 
double borders and playing with margins, paddings, floatings and 
backgrounds... lot of fun.


Well, I'am far away to finish the site but I want to share (and show) my 
experiment (that maybe has some mutuations until I finish the site).


--- http://www.efectoscluster.com.ar/index.php --

I have only tested it in Mozilla Firefox 1.0.5/Win and IE6/Win. I 
really dont care other browsers... ;) (the true is :  dont have any 
other browser installed, and here in Argentina, most people uses IE6, 
but thats another story...).


Thanks!

Julián Landerreche
Midi-midi | Servicio técnico especializado para músicos
Efectos Cluster | efectos analógicos e insumos para músicos
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RE: [WSG] Prototype Framework - script.aculo.us

2005-07-22 Thread Chris Rizzo








One thing I havent found yet is a possible alternative to script.aculo.us.
Weve tried to implement some of these effects and they work in Firefox
but not IE (throws no error). Theres no help/support anywhere that I can
find and documentation is minimum. Does anyone know where there maybe some
helpful documentation on the Web? Maybe I have to find the right forum?



Thanks,

CR











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There is another one
Sarissa mentioned in Stuart Langridge book DHTML
Utopia... http://sarissa.sourceforge.net/doc/overview-summary.html

And this one http://ajax.schwarz-interactive.de
by Michael Schwarz (.NET library for AJAX
calls/methods).

Irina.



On 7/20/05, Kris
Khaira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I've been using Prototype
for the past few weeks. It seemed like the
most light-weight JS framework for Ajax.
The other frameworks I was
considering were:

Xajax - http://xajax.sourceforge.net/ 
Sajax - http://www.modernmethod.com/sajax/
AjaxAC - http://ajax.zervaas.com.au/
JPSpan - http://jpspan.sourceforge.net/
RSLite - http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/rslite/
Lace - http://socket7.net/lace/

Prototype is used in Ruby on Rails and is the framework powering the 
Ajax in
Basecamp. At the moment, there aren't any manuals or docs but
there's a user community. Just try googling for it. It's made up of
only 1 24KB js file.

You might as well check out script.aculo.us
- it's a JS effects library
(drag and drop, etc) that ties in with Prototype.
http://script.aculo.us/

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Re: [WSG] Prototype Framework - script.aculo.us

2005-07-22 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 7/22/05, Chris Rizzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 One thing I haven't found yet is a possible alternative to script.aculo.us.
 We've tried to implement some of these effects and they work in Firefox but
 not IE (throws no error). There's no help/support anywhere that I can find
 and documentation is minimum. Does anyone know where there maybe some
 helpful documentation on the Web? Maybe I have to find the right forum? 
 

I had a problem with script from script.aculo.us and the solution was
to change doctype
so that IE will switch into standards compliant mode. 

Regards,
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Re: [WSG] alphabetic horizontal list problem

2005-07-22 Thread Paul Novitski

At 02:03 AM 7/22/2005, Stephanie wrote:
I need to create an alphabetic horizontal list to link to content on a 
page - problem I am having is that I want to float the list right but when 
I do that the alphabetic list is ordered from Z - A instead of A - Z.


Any clue as to how to solve this problem?


Stephanie,

Float the alphabet letters left, then float their container right, e.g.,

div id=container
ul
lia href=#AA/a/li
lia href=#BB/a/li
lia href=#CC/a/li
...
lia href=#ZZ/a/li
/ul
/div

div#container
{
float: right;
}
div#container li
{
float: left;
}

(untested, but should be close)

Paul 



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RE: [WSG] Eric meyers on crashing IE

2005-07-22 Thread Drake, Ted C.








I agree. I think.

Ted













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mugur Padurean
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005
10:36 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Eric meyers on
crashing IE





Ted, now, why did you
give IE another brake ?
It's always gonna need another one and there's nothing we can do about that for
now. Problem is every time we hack for IE we buy it a little more
time. And frankly ... that's a BAD idea.
We found the best grammar (standards) for the web and we made them
reality. We did not, however, found a way to bring IE producers [ :D] to even
patch the darn thing. Lot's of questions here
... 
Things are gonna change with IE 7, you say? Hello stranger ! [ hand wave ]
Welcome to Earth. We mean you no harm 

You know, I just realize that most of IE problems show their ugly, twisted
heads around cofee time ( for any developer/designer ). Preferably before you
had one. That's ...odd :)

If it makes you feel better : I had my sister's 4 year girl ( adorable ) stay
with me last night - her ideea - until about 3 in the morning when mother came
back to pick her up. We had tea with some dolls, trim the dogs hair
a little, painted some walls and ... yes ... that ... we singed SONGS. Man THAT
IS NO MATCH FOR IE. Way more frightening than anything IE can throw at me. And
I had NO evening ... NO night ... and ... yes ... NO MORNING ! She's back ...








RE: [WSG] Eric meyers on crashing IE

2005-07-22 Thread Drake, Ted C.








Sorry for another post. I just wanted to
clarify. I didn't write the post on crashing IE. I cut and pasted the
post by Eric Meyers. I thought it would be more convenient to provide his
insights than to make you click on a link and go to his web site. There was
also a link in there. I just don't want to take credit for the prose of
someone else, Eric gets the kudos and observations, I was merely the messenger.



Ted



P.S. Patrick Lauke came up with a killer version
of the zebra stripe _javascript_ which I am sure he will share with the list when
it is ready. He deserves a round of applause for taking some time out of his
day to help a fellow list member and eventually the entire community.















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mugur Padurean
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005
10:36 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Eric meyers on
crashing IE





Ted, now, why did you
give IE another brake ?
It's always gonna need another one and there's nothing we can do about that for
now. Problem is every time we hack for IE we buy it a little more
time. And frankly ... that's a BAD idea.
We found the best grammar (standards) for the web and we made them
reality. We did not, however, found a way to bring IE producers [ :D] to even
patch the darn thing. Lot's of questions here
... 
Things are gonna change with IE 7, you say? Hello stranger ! [ hand wave ]
Welcome to Earth. We mean you no harm 

You know, I just realize that most of IE problems show their ugly, twisted
heads around cofee time ( for any developer/designer ). Preferably before you
had one. That's ...odd :)

If it makes you feel better : I had my sister's 4 year girl ( adorable ) stay
with me last night - her ideea - until about 3 in the morning when mother came
back to pick her up. We had tea with some dolls, trim the dogs
hair a little, painted some walls and ... yes ... that ... we singed
SONGS. Man THAT IS NO MATCH FOR IE. Way more frightening than anything IE can
throw at me. And I had NO evening ... NO night ... and ... yes ... NO MORNING !
She's back ...








[WSG] site check please

2005-07-22 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi All
I've been working on a re-design of my web site and I know the code is still
rough. However, I think I could use some outside eyeballs on the design. 

You know how things are when you look at it for too long...

http://www.tdrake.net/joan/index-liquid.html

I was trying to keep it liquid but I've settled on a more static approach
and I will tell you now that I am sacrificing 800X600 monitors. They will
have to do some scrolling.  As a photographer, I wanted larger images in my
galleries and feel this is an appropriate sacrifice.

I'd appreciate comments on anything that looks broken, odd, messy, or
whatever.  I need to do some serious cleaning up on it this weekend and then
transforming it to a theme for Wordpress. 

Thanks

Ted
www.tdrake.net

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[WSG] circodeliaproducciones.com - thoughts on this site

2005-07-22 Thread sam sherlock

I happened acrosss this site on stylegala.

http://www.circodeliaproducciones.com/


I would like to know what the list members think of the site critism / 
praise and other comments


atb - Sam

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turning images off - RE: [WSG] site check please

2005-07-22 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi everyone

Georg brought up a great point.

The site design is completely illegible with images turned off. I have a
black background color set on the body and black text. I need to place a
white background on the content section to provide a readable area when the
images are disabled. 

I think this is a very valid point for site design and I thank you for
pointing it out. 

Thank you again for the comments, it will make my de-bugging this weekend
much more productive.

Ted


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Subject: Re: [WSG] site check please

Drake, Ted C. wrote:
 http://www.tdrake.net/joan/index-liquid.html

I really like the look of that one - but...

- Scrolling left isn't easy, so maybe try this adjustment:

body { padding-left: 95px;}
...tested in Opera, Firefox  IE6.
(I can even make it line up perfectly in Opera 8's 'fit to window width'
with this adjustment.}

Major flaw:
- Redefine font-size on body for IE/win. Using Ems triggers the 'extreme
font-steps bug' in IE. Makes the columns overlap on 'largest' and text
unreadable on 'smallest'. Use '%' instead.

- Minor flaw on a photographer's site maybe, but trying to read the
page with 'images off' is 'no good'.

- Search could do with something like:
#search {min-height: 4em; _height: 4em;}


Other minor points:
- A few pixels of the background-image showing at the very bottom.
- Footer weak for font-resizing since the background don't size with it.

regards
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Re: [WSG] site check please

2005-07-22 Thread Edward Clarke








Re: http://www.tdrake.net/joan/index-liquid.html



I think a nice Georgia font would go down well
with that template.





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Re: [WSG] Unicode in Visual Studio? For xhtml, css ?

2005-07-22 Thread Terrence Wood
True it probably isn't needed in most cases, except where it may be 
included in an html file that is not utf-8 and the CSS file actually 
contains utf-8 characters. In fact, according to w3c the character 
encoding is usually reliably determined form the first few bytes of the 
file anyways [http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/syndata.html#q23]. 
Elsewhere it is said CSS files inherit the charset from the HTML file 
in which they are included, or default to utf-8.




kind regards
Terrence Wood.

On 22 Jul 2005, at 4:59 PM, T. R. Valentine wrote:


On 21/07/05, Terrence Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't use VS but generally UTF-8  or  UTF-8 (no bom) is the best 
bet.


Make sure you send the correct header or meta for your html files i.e.
charset=utf-8. For CSS files include as the first line: @charset
utf-8;


Why should one include that as a first line? I normally save my files
in UTF-8 format, do not use that as a first line, and have never
experienced problems with my CSS files (I regularly use a meta tag
charset=UTF-8 in my (X)HTML).

Am I missing something?

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Re: [WSG] circodeliaproducciones.com - thoughts on this site

2005-07-22 Thread Zulema
I think it's great, but it looks awful with CSS turned off :S. Works 
fine w/o JavaScript. It prints ok too. 


One page I tested had errors.
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A//www.circodeliaproducciones.com/circodelia_producciones_artisticas_trabajos_clientes.php

ciao,
Zulema

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sam sherlock wrote:


I happened acrosss this site on stylegala.

http://www.circodeliaproducciones.com/


I would like to know what the list members think of the site critism / 
praise and other comments


atb - Sam

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[WSG] div overflow inner div issues

2005-07-22 Thread Ajay Ranipeta
Hi list,

I'm in a bit of a twist and need help. I have a
css-based dropdown list with div's. I needed this as I
need to have images with my dropdown list options
which I can't achieve with a normal dropdown (select)
field. 

Now that I have this dropdown list, I have a few
issues with it, both in Firefox and IE on Windows, not
sure about other browser, but i suspect its the same.

ok, enough of the rant. You can checkout an example of
what i'm doing here:
http://203.202.1.246/wsg/dropdown3.html . 

What i'm trying to do here, is have multiple
dropdown lists where a user can select from the list
and the textbox beside it is set with the selected
value. 

What i've done is have a 2-column table, first column
has the dropdown list and the 2nd has the textbox.
This table is wrapped in a div with its height set to
200px so that i can get a scrolling effect. This
should hide the other dropdowns until the div is
scrolled and they show up. 

Now the problems that i have with this are: 

- In both Firefox and IE, when the dropdowns are
listed one after the other vertically, the lower
dropdowns show up (sorry, can't explain futher, but
please have a look at the example)

- In firefox, the inner divs are hidden fine, but when
you click on the dropdown image, the LIST div shows up
towards the bottom of the page. I believe this is
cause of the relative positioning, but not sure how
to fix it.

- In IE, all the dropdown divs are shown (well the
text Select a symbol), and is not hidden
automatically like firefox. 

Any help with this would be great and i'm at my wit's
end with this. If you know of an alternative, that
would be great as well. 

Also, I'm using the IE7 javascript so that IE will
hide the div options, but that didn't help much.  

cheers,
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[WSG] 2 ?'s

2005-07-22 Thread csslist
anyone have a good linnk to a tut or other about footers and always having them at bottom under the content.  also, i have a page banner div and on safari it's moved over to the right by 1 px, any ideas on this?  thanks:)


Re: [WSG] site check please

2005-07-22 Thread David Laakso

Drake, Ted C. wrote:


Hi All
I've been working on a re-design of my web site and I know the code is still
rough. However, I think I could use some outside eyeballs on the design. 


You know how things are when you look at it for too long...

http://www.tdrake.net/joan/index-liquid.html
 


Ted


www.tdrake.net


 

A different, and interesting concept, Ted. Difficult for me to read 
though, as the heavy underlined links punch holes in the flow of  the 
content text, and lack of lead between the stacked heads compounds the 
problem. If being cool is your goal, Reading Design 
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/readingdesign/ is how to go about it.

FWIW: Your layout breaks in text-size largest in IE.

Regards,
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Re: [WSG] 2 ?'s

2005-07-22 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 7/22/05 7:10 PM csslist [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out:

 anyone have a good linnk to a tut or other about footers and always having
 them at bottom under the content.

This was on this list recently:

--- quoting
Looks like someone has found a mostly-reliable CSS-only solution to
that common footer problem - getting a footer to stick to the bottom
of the viewport no matter how long or short the content is, which
doesn't overlap the content when the window is resized:

Explanation: http://solardreamstudios.com/learn/css/footerstick/
Example: 
http://solardreamstudios.com/_img/learn/css/footerstick/footerstick.html
--- end quoting

Seems to work in Safari and degrades okay in IE Mac.

Hth,

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Re: [WSG] circodeliaproducciones.com - thoughts on this site

2005-07-22 Thread sam sherlock
it looks unformated with styles disabled, as do any css driven sites, 
specifically what looks awful?


I think the only issue with css turned off is that the logo is a 
transparent gif which looks bad on white bkgd


everything else looks fine to me (as far as unformated goes)


any other thoughts,
S

Zulema wrote:

I think it's great, but it looks awful with CSS turned off :S. Works 
fine w/o JavaScript. It prints ok too.

One page I tested had errors.
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A//www.circodeliaproducciones.com/circodelia_producciones_artisticas_trabajos_clientes.php 



ciao,
Zulema

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sam sherlock wrote:


I happened acrosss this site on stylegala.

http://www.circodeliaproducciones.com/


I would like to know what the list members think of the site critism 
/ praise and other comments


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Re: [WSG] circodeliaproducciones.com - thoughts on this site

2005-07-22 Thread David Laakso

sam sherlock wrote:


I happened acrosss this site on stylegala.

http://www.circodeliaproducciones.com/


I would like to know what the list members think of the site


Not much.


critism / praise and other comments

atb - Sam



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Re: [WSG] circodeliaproducciones.com - thoughts on this site

2005-07-22 Thread Rick Faaberg
 I happened acrosss this site on stylegala.
 
 http://www.circodeliaproducciones.com/
 
 
 I would like to know what the list members think of the site

There are quite a number of CSS validation errors (W3C online validator).
Seems to be valid XHTML strict (W3C again).

Attractive, interesting design imho. Layout blows up with text-resizing,
though.

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Re: [WSG] circodeliaproducciones.com - thoughts on this site

2005-07-22 Thread sam sherlock

its not very in depth piece of critism,

the site users flash (which may be why you don't like it)
I find that clients like flash ask for it and demand it, they don't know 
of webstandards


i am researching method of marrying the two disciplines (and indeed the 
wider array of web disciplines)


I have also found this UFO

http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/ufo/

which impresses me greatly - silent javascript

different sites require different techniques every site i make uses 
flash - I don;t want this to be at the expense of webstandards and the 
benefits they behold


I strive fourth with my aims and research


can members be descriptive with critism? please

many thanks Sam


David Laakso wrote:


sam sherlock wrote:


I happened acrosss this site on stylegala.

http://www.circodeliaproducciones.com/


I would like to know what the list members think of the site



Not much.


critism / praise and other comments

atb - Sam



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Re: [WSG] circodeliaproducciones.com - thoughts on this site

2005-07-22 Thread Patrick H. Lauke

sam sherlock wrote:


http://www.circodeliaproducciones.com/


I would like to know what the list members think of the site critism / 
praise and other comments


Look wise, it's quite pleasing. The underlying markup, however, looks a 
bit funky. The navigation is marked up as a series of H2s...which is 
bizarre. The order in which the headings appear in the markup is also 
wrong..it should be ascending, not descending. Style attributes all over 
the place. An actual IMG element with a width of 1 pixel used as a 
separator. Nah, all style, no substance, which is a shame really.


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Re: [WSG] circodeliaproducciones.com - thoughts on this site

2005-07-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

sam sherlock wrote:

I happened acrosss this site on stylegala.

http://www.circodeliaproducciones.com/


I would like to know what the list members think of the site...


Looking good in some browsers - but can't take any stress.

- My Firefox doesn't like it.
- Opera 8... not too bad.
- Relying on font-sizes in pixels (mostly) which breaks badly in IE/win
(and in all other browsers also, of course) if visitors like to have
some say in the matter.

- I regard this as misuse of headlines:
h2a href=index.phpHome .01/a/h2
h2a href=circodel... /a/h2
h2a href=circodel... /a/h2
h2a href=circodel... /a/h2
h2a href=circodel... /a/h2
...should have been a list, IMO.

---

Conclusion: this looks like a page that hasn't been tested well across
browser-land. Might have turned out a lot better if it were...

regards
Georg
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Re: [WSG] 2 ?'s

2005-07-22 Thread csslist
thanks! thats the best one i have seen so far. the only 2 i have tested so far that aren't so good is on ie mac it floats up near top and on pc opera 8 it's kinda funky.  seems to have even fixed my 1 px left float on safari for the header whoo hoo.  another problem is the menu on pc ie6 has too big of spaces, any suggestion on that or any of it?  http://www.thehatchflyshop.com/controls/template.cfm  btw~ i'm not charging the client for cssp, just going so it doesnt have to be perfect ;)  thanksFrom: Rick Faaberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:31 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] 2 ?'sOn 7/22/05 7:10 PM "csslist"  sent this out: anyone have a good linnk to a tut or other about footers and always having them at bottom under the content.This was on this list recently:--- quotingLooks like someone has found a mostly-reliable CSS-only solution tothat common footer problem - getting a footer to stick to the bottomof the viewport no matter how long or short the content is, whichdoesn't overlap the content when the window is resized:Explanation: Example: --- end quotingSeems to work in Safari and degrades okay in IE Mac.Hth,Rick Faaberg**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list  getting help**


Re: [WSG] 2 ?'s

2005-07-22 Thread Gary Menzel
Got an error on that page.

You appear to be missing the ##'s around expandPath.






Could not find the included template expandPath(header.cfm). 

Note: If you wish to use an absolute template path (e.g. TEMPLATE=/mypath/index.cfm) with CFINCLUDE then you must create a mapping for the path using the ColdFusion Administrator. Using relative paths (
e.g. TEMPLATE=index.cfm or TEMPLATE=../index.cfm) does not require the creation of any special mappings. It is therefore recommended that you use relative paths with CFINCLUDE whenever possible. 




The error occurred in /vservers/thehatchflys/htdocs/controls/template.cfm: line 12

10 : /cfsilent
11 : !--- include application header ---
12 : cfinclude template=expandPath(header.cfm)
13 : !--- include application navigation ---
14 : cfinclude template=navigation.cfm





On 7/23/05, csslist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thanks! thats the best one i have seen so far.the only 2 i have tested so far that aren't so good is on ie mac it floats up near top and on pc opera 8 it's kinda funky.
seems to have even fixed my 1 px left float on safari for the header whoo hoo.another problem is the menu on pc ie6 has too big of spaces, any suggestion on that or any of it?
http://www.thehatchflyshop.com/controls/template.cfmbtw~ i'm not charging the client for cssp, just going so it doesnt have to be perfect ;)thanks


From: Rick Faaberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:31 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] 2 ?'sOn 7/22/05 7:10 PM csslist sent this out:
 anyone have a good linnk to a tut or other about footers and always having them at bottom under the content.This was on this list recently:--- quotingLooks like someone has found a mostly-reliable CSS-only solution to
that common footer problem - getting a footer to stick to the bottomof the viewport no matter how long or short the content is, whichdoesn't overlap the content when the window is resized:Explanation: 
Example: 
--- end quotingSeems to work in Safari and degrades okay in IE Mac.Hth,Rick Faaberg**
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Re: [WSG] 2 ?'s

2005-07-22 Thread csslist
yeah, try it again, i was trying to get around a w3c error saying it couldnt find the closing body tag but its there.  cutting up the page into header, nav and footer sections, when u do that the validator takes a crapFrom: Gary Menzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 1:26 AMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] 2 ?'sGot an error on that page.  You appear to be missing the ##'s around expandPath.   Could not find the included template expandPath(header.cfm).   Note: If you wish to use an absolute template path (e.g. TEMPLATE="/mypath/index.cfm") with CFINCLUDE then you must create a mapping for the path using the ColdFusion Administrator. Using relative paths ( e.g. TEMPLATE="index.cfm" or TEMPLATE="../index.cfm") does not require the creation of any special mappings. It is therefore recommended that you use relative paths with CFINCLUDE whenever possible.  The error occurred in /vservers/thehatchflys/htdocs/controls/template.cfm: line 12  10 : /cfsilent11 : !--- include application header ---12 : cfinclude template="expandPath(header.cfm)" 13 : !--- include application navigation --- 14 : cfinclude template="navigation.cfm"  On 7/23/05, csslist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks! thats the best one i have seen so far.the only 2 i have tested so far that aren't so good is on ie mac it floats up near top and on pc opera 8 it's kinda funky. seems to have even fixed my 1 px left float on safari for the header whoo hoo.another problem is the menu on pc ie6 has too big of spaces, any suggestion on that or any of it? http://www.thehatchflyshop.com/controls/template.cfmbtw~ i'm not charging the client for cssp, just going so it doesnt have to be perfect ;)thanks  From: Rick Faaberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:31 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] 2 ?'sOn 7/22/05 7:10 PM "csslist" sent this out:  anyone have a good linnk to a tut or other about footers and always having them at bottom under the content.This was on this list recently:--- quotingLooks like someone has found a mostly-reliable CSS-only solution to that common footer problem - getting a footer to stick to the bottomof the viewport no matter how long or short the content is, whichdoesn't overlap the content when the window is resized:Explanation: Example: --- end quotingSeems to work in Safari and degrades okay in IE Mac.Hth,Rick Faaberg** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/See  http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list  getting help**


Re: [WSG] 2 ?'s

2005-07-22 Thread Gary Menzel
Remove all the whitespace between each set of the li/li tags. That will make IE behave.

i.e: no whitespace inbetween the sets of tags.

lia href="" href="" service/a/lilia href="" href="" album/a/lilia href="" href="" us/a/lilia href="" href="" href="" board/a/li


This same problem happenes if you create a display:inline li item - it renders one white space if there are any.
Regards,
Gary

On 7/23/05, csslist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
yeah, try it again, i was trying to get around a w3c error saying it couldnt find the closing body tag but its there.
cutting up the page into header, nav and footer sections, when u do that the validator takes a crap

From: Gary Menzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 1:26 AM 
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject
: Re: [WSG] 2 ?'s

Got an error on that page.

You appear to be missing the ##'s around expandPath.






Could not find the included template expandPath(header.cfm). 

Note: If you wish to use an absolute template path (e.g. TEMPLATE=/mypath/index.cfm) with CFINCLUDE then you must create a mapping for the path using the ColdFusion Administrator. Using relative paths ( 
e.g. TEMPLATE=index.cfm or TEMPLATE=../index.cfm) does not require the creation of any special mappings. It is therefore recommended that you use relative paths with CFINCLUDE whenever possible. 




The error occurred in /vservers/thehatchflys/htdocs/controls/template.cfm: line 12


10 : /cfsilent11 : !--- include application header ---12 : cfinclude template=expandPath(header.cfm) 13 : !--- include application navigation --- 14 : cfinclude template=
navigation.cfm 




On 7/23/05, csslist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
thanks! thats the best one i have seen so far.the only 2 i have tested so far that aren't so good is on ie mac it floats up near top and on pc opera 8 it's kinda funky. 
seems to have even fixed my 1 px left float on safari for the header whoo hoo.another problem is the menu on pc ie6 has too big of spaces, any suggestion on that or any of it?
http://www.thehatchflyshop.com/controls/template.cfmbtw~ i'm not charging the client for cssp, just going so it doesnt have to be perfect ;)thanks


From: Rick Faaberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 10:31 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] 2 ?'sOn 7/22/05 7:10 PM csslist sent this out: 
 anyone have a good linnk to a tut or other about footers and always having them at bottom under the content.This was on this list recently:--- quotingLooks like someone has found a mostly-reliable CSS-only solution to 
that common footer problem - getting a footer to stick to the bottomof the viewport no matter how long or short the content is, whichdoesn't overlap the content when the window is resized:Explanation: 
Example: 
--- end quotingSeems to work in Safari and degrades okay in IE Mac.Hth,Rick Faaberg** The discussion list for 
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