Re: [WSG] Problem getting IE to behave

[Kim Kruse]

Hi Kepler,
That was effective :) Thanks a lot.

Kim

Kepler Gelotte skrev:

  Hi,

The problem is in the _javascript_ function TJK_tipMenu() in external.js.

Add the following line:

z_IMG.style.top="0";

after the line:

z_IMG.style.left="0";

Regards,
Kepler Gelotte

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Subject: RE: [WSG] Problem getting IE to behave

  
  
On Behalf Of Kim Kruse
On this page http://www.geekministry.com/index1.php I've a problem
getting the navbar to sit where I want it. If you look in FF/Opera
you'll see how it should look. I just can't figure out what is causing
the drop in IE and would really appreciate if someone could point me in
the right direction.

  
  
Hi Kim,
In IE, the As cut-off the bottom of the images. You could go with
"overflow:visible", but I think giving them a specific height will work
better for you, so try "height:39px"
Make sure to set enough specificity

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Re: [WSG] Opening a New Window for Print View (dif from a print style sheet)

[Susan Grossman]

The placement of the fields on the "official" form doesn't resemble the web
page which was designed for web usability for entering data.  It's an
entirely different page - I could just let them navigate to it, but the Core
Team has asked me not to do that, so I'm pretty well stuck with another
window which will be full size to display the data to print for their
required record keeping.

I understand your and many peoples abhorance to this concept, but everything
isn't an absolute.

Thanks for everyones responses!

Susan



On 6/15/07, Jamie Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Pop-Ups are horrible, and usually get blocked by certian browsers and anti
virus/spyware software.

Why is it not possible to create an alternative print stylesheet for that
page? Or create a stylesheet switcher and a button
that says something like: 'Print Preview' and the stylesheet switches,
either way though when the user prints it it will use the print
stylesheet.





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RE: [WSG] Problem getting IE to behave

[Thierry Koblentz]

> On Behalf Of Kim Kruse

> I'm a little confused what you mean with "them"! Is it the id's for each
button?
> I guess the specificity matter is obvious once I know who "they" are :)

I'm talking about the As. What wraps your images. 

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RE: [WSG] Opening a New Window for Print View (dif from a print style sheet)

[Thierry Koblentz]

> On Behalf Of Susan Grossman

> I'm finally getting to my question on the best way to open a new window
for this 
> now that the target tag isn't an option.  what are the suggested ways to
do this 
> now and keep my pages clean? 

This solution [0] does not rely on any hook in the markup, but if you need
this behavior for one single page, I think Rob's suggestion makes sense.

[0] http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/popup_window_with_no_extra_markup.asp


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Re: [WSG] Opening a New Window for Print View (dif from a print style sheet)

[Christian Montoya]

On 6/15/07, Susan Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...

I'm finally getting to my question on the best way to open a new window for
this now that the target tag isn't an option.  what are the suggested ways
to do this now and keep my pages clean?

I've read Berea St who is adamant on using js if you have to have a window,
though stating it should be avoided, and others who are just as opposed and
recommended only pure css pop-ups - which I don't want since i want full
browser menus for the user.


I don't see why Javascript is such a bad idea here... most users will
have it, so the print view will open in a new window as intended. For
those who don't, they will go to a new page, and they can use the back
button when they are done there. So in the end it doesn't hurt anyone,
right? And you can keep the Strict doctype, for whatever peace of mind
that gives you :)

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Re: [WSG] Opening a New Window for Print View (dif from a print style sheet)

[Jamie Collins]

Pop-Ups are horrible, and usually get blocked by certian browsers and anti
virus/spyware software.

Why is it not possible to create an alternative print stylesheet for that
page? Or create a stylesheet switcher and a button
that says something like: 'Print Preview' and the stylesheet switches,
either way though when the user prints it it will use the print
stylesheet.

I wouldnt use a popup unless its 100% needed, because of the accessibility
issues around pop-ups.

On 6/15/07, Susan Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Generally I use print stylesheets to handle all my print views, but I'm
working on an application that after they enter form data we're going to
offer them a print view that shows the data in a format that is the
"legal"style (I deal with mandates).

To do this I'm going to offer a link styled as a button that states
"Print View Window"  so it's clear that I'm opening a new window.  My pages
are XHTML strict, tableless CSS and meet all the accessibility rules,
actually I went ahead and adjusted them to  WCAG Samurai Errata, and I'm
using no hacks or js at this time (it's a java ap).

I'm finally getting to my question on the best way to open a new windowfor this 
now that the target tag isn't an option.  what are the suggested
ways to do this now and keep my pages clean?

I've read Berea St who is adamant on using js if you have to have a
window, though stating it should be avoided, and others who are just as
opposed and recommended only pure css pop-ups - which I don't want since i
want full browser menus for the user.

Thanks in advance -

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Re: [WSG] Problem getting IE to behave

[Kim Kruse]

Hi Thierry,
I'm a little confused what you mean with "them"! Is it the id's for
each button? I guess the specificity matter is obvious once I know who
"they" are :)
Thanks a lot.

Kim

Thierry Koblentz skrev:

  
On Behalf Of Kim Kruse
On this page http://www.geekministry.com/index1.php I've a problem
getting the navbar to sit where I want it. If you look in FF/Opera
you'll see how it should look. I just can't figure out what is causing
the drop in IE and would really appreciate if someone could point me in
the right direction.

  
  
Hi Kim,
In IE, the As cut-off the bottom of the images. You could go with
"overflow:visible", but I think giving them a specific height will work
better for you, so try "height:39px"
Make sure to set enough specificity

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RE: [WSG] Problem getting IE to behave

[Kepler Gelotte]

Hi,

The problem is in the javascript function TJK_tipMenu() in external.js.

Add the following line:

z_IMG.style.top="0";

after the line:

z_IMG.style.left="0";

Regards,
Kepler Gelotte

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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:47 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Problem getting IE to behave

> On Behalf Of Kim Kruse
> On this page http://www.geekministry.com/index1.php I've a problem
> getting the navbar to sit where I want it. If you look in FF/Opera
> you'll see how it should look. I just can't figure out what is causing
> the drop in IE and would really appreciate if someone could point me in
> the right direction.

Hi Kim,
In IE, the As cut-off the bottom of the images. You could go with
"overflow:visible", but I think giving them a specific height will work
better for you, so try "height:39px"
Make sure to set enough specificity

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Re: [WSG] Opening a New Window for Print View (dif from a print style sheet)

[Matthew Pennell]

On 15/06/07, Susan Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I've read Berea St who is adamant on using js if you have to have a
window, though stating it should be avoided, and others who are just as
opposed and recommended only pure css pop-ups - which I don't want since i
want full browser menus for the user.



Your two options are JavaScript to attach window.open to the link, or use
the target="_blank" attribute and sacrifice compliance with XHTML Strict.
There aren't any other ways to do it, really.

Matthew.

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Re: [WSG] Opening a New Window for Print View (dif from a print style sheet)

[Rob Kirton]

Susan

Just set your doctype to transitional then all will be fine with validation
using "target".  For your own peace of mind, you know your pages are
otherwise strict, why crucifty yourself over a tiny problem?

Life is too short.  Your pages are no less clean or valid because of a
transitional doc type.

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On 15/06/07, Susan Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Generally I use print stylesheets to handle all my print views, but I'm
working on an application that after they enter form data we're going to
offer them a print view that shows the data in a format that is the
"legal"style (I deal with mandates).

To do this I'm going to offer a link styled as a button that states
"Print View Window"  so it's clear that I'm opening a new window.  My pages
are XHTML strict, tableless CSS and meet all the accessibility rules,
actually I went ahead and adjusted them to  WCAG Samurai Errata, and I'm
using no hacks or js at this time (it's a java ap).

I'm finally getting to my question on the best way to open a new windowfor this 
now that the target tag isn't an option.  what are the suggested
ways to do this now and keep my pages clean?

I've read Berea St who is adamant on using js if you have to have a
window, though stating it should be avoided, and others who are just as
opposed and recommended only pure css pop-ups - which I don't want since i
want full browser menus for the user.

Thanks in advance -

--
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[WSG] Opening a New Window for Print View (dif from a print style sheet)

[Susan Grossman]

Generally I use print stylesheets to handle all my print views, but I'm
working on an application that after they enter form data we're going to
offer them a print view that shows the data in a format that is the
"legal"style (I deal with mandates).

To do this I'm going to offer a link styled as a button that states  "Print
View Window"  so it's clear that I'm opening a new window.  My pages are
XHTML strict, tableless CSS and meet all the accessibility rules, actually I
went ahead and adjusted them to  WCAG Samurai Errata, and I'm using no hacks
or js at this time (it's a java ap).

I'm finally getting to my question on the best way to open a new window for
this now that the target tag isn't an option.  what are the suggested ways
to do this now and keep my pages clean?

I've read Berea St who is adamant on using js if you have to have a window,
though stating it should be avoided, and others who are just as opposed and
recommended only pure css pop-ups - which I don't want since i want full
browser menus for the user.

Thanks in advance -

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RE: [WSG] Problem getting IE to behave

[Thierry Koblentz]

> On Behalf Of Kim Kruse
> On this page http://www.geekministry.com/index1.php I've a problem
> getting the navbar to sit where I want it. If you look in FF/Opera
> you'll see how it should look. I just can't figure out what is causing
> the drop in IE and would really appreciate if someone could point me in
> the right direction.

Hi Kim,
In IE, the As cut-off the bottom of the images. You could go with
"overflow:visible", but I think giving them a specific height will work
better for you, so try "height:39px"
Make sure to set enough specificity

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Regards,
Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com






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Re: [WSG] Problem getting IE to behave

[Kim Kruse]

Hi Puneet,

Thanks for your reply. Using margin makes the menu jump to the top of
the page instead and display:inline didn't work either. The funny thing
is it looks like the images are being cut off somehow and if I change
the #menubox to have a padding of 230 px that works in IE but if I do
the same with a CC it doesn't have any effect. ARGH if I may say so...

Kim

Puneet Sakhuja skrev:
menubox
{
    height: 33px;
    width: 530px;
    padding-top: 242px;
}
  
here, try using margin, instead of padding
or try display:inline in this block
  
regards
puneet
  
  On 6/15/07, Kim Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi,

On this page http://www.geekministry.com/index1.php
I've a problem
getting the navbar to sit where I want it. If you look in FF/Opera
you'll see how it should look. I just can't figure out what is causing

the drop in IE and would really appreciate if someone could point me in
the right direction.

Thank you very much and have a great weekend

Kim


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Re: [WSG] Problem getting IE to behave

[Puneet Sakhuja]

menubox {
   height: 33px;
   width: 530px;
   padding-top: 242px;
}

here, try using margin, instead of padding
or try display:inline in this block

regards
puneet

On 6/15/07, Kim Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,

On this page http://www.geekministry.com/index1.php I've a problem
getting the navbar to sit where I want it. If you look in FF/Opera
you'll see how it should look. I just can't figure out what is causing
the drop in IE and would really appreciate if someone could point me in
the right direction.

Thank you very much and have a great weekend

Kim


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[WSG] Problem getting IE to behave

[Kim Kruse]

Hi,

On this page http://www.geekministry.com/index1.php I've a problem 
getting the navbar to sit where I want it. If you look in FF/Opera 
you'll see how it should look. I just can't figure out what is causing 
the drop in IE and would really appreciate if someone could point me in 
the right direction.


Thank you very much and have a great weekend

Kim


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RE: [WSG] BarCamp Perth now FREE

[ByteDreams]

Sounds great!
I've always wanted to visit Australia.  Well.. maybe one day...

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I will be there and finally something to go to in perth...



>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14/06/2007 9:13:12 pm >>>
Hi Gary
I wish I could be there but I'm in QLD for a conference :(
Cheers,
Gian

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Subject: [WSG] BarCamp Perth now FREE

Well Finally Perth gets to hold a BarCamp.

Thing is it's only 16 Days away on the 30th June from 9-5, Central
TAFE, 
140 Royal St, East Perth

So if you are in Perth, Western Australia.  Come along. Its all about 
sharing.

And its FREE.   Register ASAP, and get your  t-shirt details to the 
organiser ([EMAIL PROTECTED] )

and you get a FREE t-shirt on the day.

So Signup here - http://www.webindustry.asn.au/projects/barcamp-perth 

What's a BarCamp. Well those details are on the wiki 


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