Re: [WSG] A little help with a charity site please
Title: Re: [WSG] A little help with a charity site please Hi Taco Currently you have 6 images that make up the banner section of you page (these images except for the logo are just for decoration) I would make this 1 large image and then place the navigation etc.. Over the top of it – this will give you more flexibility and reduce the need for having images that don’t really have any semantic meaning in the mark-up. Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st From: Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Pacific Fox Reply-To: Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:54:48 +1000 To: Subject: RE: [WSG] A little help with a charity site please PS. I got the transparency working after I gave the container a size. Still haven't figured out the 1pixel space. Taco Fleur - Chief Executive Officer Pacific Fox http://www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 … ** Web Design and Development ** SMS Solutions, including developer API ** Domain Registration, .COM for as low as fifteen dollars a year, .COM.AU for fifty dollars two years! ** BlackBerry® Business Solutions www.OzBlackBerry.com ** We endorse PayPal , accept payments online now! ** Seamless Merchant integration -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox Sent: Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:46 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] A little help with a charity site please I can't seem to figure out why there is a pixel opening between the top graphic and the next www.raokonline.com www.raokonline.com/_resource/style/default.css I also cannot get the transparency working in Internet Explorer 6, the transparency works in Firefox but not IE. any help would be much appreciated. Kind regards, Taco Fleur - Chief Executive Officer Pacific Fox http://www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 … ** Web Design and Development ** SMS Solutions, including developer API ** Domain Registration, .COM for as low as fifteen dollars a year, .COM.AU for fifty dollars two years! ** BlackBerry® Business Solutions www.OzBlackBerry.com ** We endorse PayPal , accept payments online now! ** Seamless Merchant integration
Re: [WSG] looking for an accessibility reference on why text-only is bad
Good article: http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/01/server-side-accessibility Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Ph: 02 9570 9875 | Mobile: 0419 350 760 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au > From: Kay Smoljak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:55:11 +0800 > To: > Subject: [WSG] looking for an accessibility reference on why text-only is bad > > We're doing a tender for a client that has requested a text-only > version of the site, for accessibility reasons. Now, *I* know that > that's ridiculous and text-only is not an acceptable alternative to an > accessible site, but I need some good verbage/references to explain > that (and what we propose instead) but I'm kinda lost for the right > words. > > Does anyone know of a good online article/resource to help me out? > Something specific to Australian legislation would be fantastic. > > Thanks! > > -- > Kay Smoljak > http://kay.smoljak.com/ > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] within & Screen Readers
Thanks Patrick So many tables I've seen have been marked up that way, I just assumed it to be correct. Maybe that's a good blog tutorial. Cheers Jeff > From: "Patrick H. Lauke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: > Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 00:17:10 + > To: > Subject: Re: [WSG] within & Screen Readers > > Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st wrote: >> Sorry guys, it really should be marked up as follows: >> CSS >> You could even put aq title attribute in there as well if you like. > > Not to be picky, but that's wrong. It's the opposite of what's defined > in the spec > http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/tables.html#adef-abbr > > "abbr = text [CS] > This attribute should be used to provide an abbreviated form of the > cell's content, and may be rendered by user agents when appropriate in > place of the cell's content. Abbreviated names should be short since > user agents may render them repeatedly. For instance, speech > synthesizers may render the abbreviated headers relating to a particular > cell before rendering that cell's content." > > So, correct use of the abbr attribute would be > Cascading Style Sheet > > which is not what you're after in this case. I'd say use the abbr or > acronym (not going to start opening that can of worms again here) > element inside the TH, like you originally envisaged. > -- > Patrick H. Lauke > _ > re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively > [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] > www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk > http://redux.deviantart.com > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] within & Screen Readers
Sorry guys, it really should be marked up as follows: CSS You could even put aq title attribute in there as well if you like. Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au > From: Gez Lemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: > Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:12:26 + > To: > Subject: Re: [WSG] within & Screen Readers > > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:51:46 -, Jamie Mason > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hey all, >> Does anyone know what the output for a Screen Reader would be for example; >> >> CSS > > JAWS can be configured to read the title attribute of abbreviations > and acronyms, and will read them when they're nested in elements such > as th. By default, JAWS won't read the title attribute. pwWebSpeak > reads both the title and the abbreviation. WindowsEyes and Home Page > Reader used to ignore them, but I don't know whether that's changed. > > Strictly speaking, CSS should be marked up as an abbreviation rather > than an acronym, as it cannot be pronounced. > > Best regards, > > Gez > _ > Supplement your vitamins > http://juicystudio.com > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
Exactly what happened to me :) Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au > From: Jan Brasna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 02:42:08 +0100 > To: > Subject: Re: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House > >> about Macs because I can't check there > > You can. > <http://www.browsercam.com/> > <http://danvine.com/icapture/> > >> buy a Mac as a testing machine. :) > > Not necessarily. > <http://pearpc.sf.net> > > BTW you'll end up with a testing PC and using Apple regularly :) > > -- > Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: alphanumeric.cz | janbrasna.com > > Stop IE! - <http://www.stopie.com/> | <http://browsehappy.com/> > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
All looks good now.
Cheers
Jeff Lowder
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> From: Seona Bellamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:20:49 +1100
> To:
> Subject: RE: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Thanks for the tip. I've made the change. Can you have a look at it and see
> if it has introduced any other unexpected results? I've checked it on
> IE6/Win and Mozilla and it seems to be fine, but I'm always a little nervous
> about Macs because I can't check there. One day I'll actually save up enough
> money to buy a Mac as a testing machine. :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Seona.
>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Behalf Of Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st
>> Sent: Monday, 28 February 2005 12:03 PM
>> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
>> Subject: Re: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
>>
>>
>> Hi Seona
>>
>> Mac Ie5 is having a real problem with the #mainNav ul {position: absolute}
>> change this to float left and it should fix everything up.
>>
>> This shouldn't affect any other browsers.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Jeff Lowder
>> Accessibility 1st
>> Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au
>>
>>
>>> From: Seona Bellamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To:
>>> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:48:22 +1100
>>> To: WSG List
>>> Subject: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Can I have some people look over this site for me please? Especially Mac
>>> users, since I don't have a Mac to check it on but my client
>> does (so I know
>>> she's going to comment on how it looks on a Mac).
>>>
>>> http://www.onehouseproductions.com
>>>
>>> Since I didn't have total control over the creation of this site (I've
>>> basically been reduced to 'code monkey' on this one) I've had to make a
>>> number of compromises that I'm not entirely happy with, but
>> I've done the
>>> best I can to keep things nice. I'd value any suggestions
>> anyone has about
>>> what I could do better, although in some cases I won't be able
>> to take them
>>> up if they will deviate too much from the original design. *sigh*
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Seona.
>>>
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Re: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
Hi Seona
Mac Ie5 is having a real problem with the #mainNav ul {position: absolute}
change this to float left and it should fix everything up.
This shouldn't affect any other browsers.
Cheers
Jeff Lowder
Accessibility 1st
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> From: Seona Bellamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:48:22 +1100
> To: WSG List
> Subject: [WSG] Site check (esp. Mac): One House
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Can I have some people look over this site for me please? Especially Mac
> users, since I don't have a Mac to check it on but my client does (so I know
> she's going to comment on how it looks on a Mac).
>
> http://www.onehouseproductions.com
>
> Since I didn't have total control over the creation of this site (I've
> basically been reduced to 'code monkey' on this one) I've had to make a
> number of compromises that I'm not entirely happy with, but I've done the
> best I can to keep things nice. I'd value any suggestions anyone has about
> what I could do better, although in some cases I won't be able to take them
> up if they will deviate too much from the original design. *sigh*
>
> Cheers,
>
> Seona.
>
> __
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Re: [WSG] getting two colums to be of the same height
Sorry for not putting a reference there: http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/articles/presentationaljavascript.php Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au > From: Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:21:46 +1100 > To: > Subject: Re: [WSG] getting two colums to be of the same height > > The only other way that I can think of is with JavaScript 'offSetHeight' > > Cheers > > Jeff Lowder > Accessibility 1st > Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au > >> From: Marco van Hylckama Vlieg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: >> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 01:02:04 +0100 >> To: >> Subject: Re: [WSG] getting two colums to be of the same height >> >> http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200406/ >>> equal_height_boxes_with_css_par >>> t_ii/ > > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] getting two colums to be of the same height
The only other way that I can think of is with JavaScript 'offSetHeight' Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au > From: Marco van Hylckama Vlieg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 01:02:04 +0100 > To: > Subject: Re: [WSG] getting two colums to be of the same height > > http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200406/ >> equal_height_boxes_with_css_par >> t_ii/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] getting two colums to be of the same height
Check Roger's article out: http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200406/equal_height_boxes_with_css_par t_ii/ Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au > From: Marco van Hylckama Vlieg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:29:24 +0100 > To: > Subject: [WSG] getting two colums to be of the same height > > Hi folks, > > This is something I've been wondering about for a long time. > If you look at my blog: > > http://www.i-marco.nl/weblog/ > > Is there any cross browser, standards compliant way to get those two > grey columns to be the same height? > It would make the whole thing look a lot better. What I'd like is the > shorter column to have extra empty space > to fill it up to be just as high as the longer one. > > Any ideas are welcome! > > Cheers, > > Marco > > -- > Marco van Hylckama Vlieg > > Senior Internet Developer > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www: http://www.i-marco.nl/ > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Floated list items not floating on a Mac
Replied off list Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au > From: Seona Bellamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:57:56 +1100 > To: > Subject: RE: [WSG] Floated list items not floating on a Mac > > OK, I've made that change. Can you check again and make sure it really is > fixed, please? > > Thanks heaps, > > Seona. > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Behalf Of Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st >> Sent: Friday, 25 February 2005 12:34 PM >> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org >> Subject: Re: [WSG] Floated list items not floating on a Mac >> >> >> It's only happening in Mac IE, anyway instead of having the Lis >> float left, >> change it to 'display: inline' and this fixes the problem. >> >> Cheers >> >> Jeff Lowder >> Accessibility 1st >> Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au >> >>> From: Seona Bellamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: >>> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:26:47 +1100 >>> To: WSG List >>> Subject: [WSG] Floated list items not floating on a Mac >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> The problem I have is with my menu bar at the top of >>> http://www.onehouseproductions.com . It's in a , with the >> 's floated >>> left to make them sit along a single line. According to a >> Mac-using friend >>> of mine, they aren't doing this and are instead showing as a >> vertical list. >>> >>> Can someone please have a look at my CSS and tell me how to fix >> it please? >>> >>> http://www.onehouseproductions.com/_styles/main.css >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Seona. >>> >>> __ >>> << ella for Spam Control >> has removed Spam messages and set >> aside Later >>> for me >>> You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com >>> >>> ** >>> The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ >>> >>> See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm >>> for some hints on posting to the list & getting help >>> ** >>> >> >> >> ** >> The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ >> >> See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm >> for some hints on posting to the list & getting help >> ** >> >> > > __ > << ella for Spam Control >> has removed Spam messages and set aside Later > for me > You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Floated list items not floating on a Mac
It's only happening in Mac IE, anyway instead of having the Lis float left, change it to 'display: inline' and this fixes the problem. Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au > From: Seona Bellamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:26:47 +1100 > To: WSG List > Subject: [WSG] Floated list items not floating on a Mac > > Hi guys, > > The problem I have is with my menu bar at the top of > http://www.onehouseproductions.com . It's in a , with the 's floated > left to make them sit along a single line. According to a Mac-using friend > of mine, they aren't doing this and are instead showing as a vertical list. > > Can someone please have a look at my CSS and tell me how to fix it please? > > http://www.onehouseproductions.com/_styles/main.css > > Cheers, > > Seona. > > __ > << ella for Spam Control >> has removed Spam messages and set aside Later > for me > You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] innerHTML and javascript
Hi Alan I doubt it, even though it is probable the fastest method, it goes against the node-centric ways of the W3C DOM. Even though it isn't in the W3C DOM spec, the browser manufacturers have still implemented it, so it'll still work cross browser. Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au > From: Alan Trick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:08:46 -0500 > To: > Subject: [WSG] innerHTML and javascript > > > I was just wondering if there was any plans to put the innerHTML > property into the DOM specs at some point seeing as how it is a very > useful property and most browsers support it anyway. > -Alan Trick > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] linking to style sheet - how best?
Thanks for your message Kerry
Sorry for not picking up, I'm in a telecon at the moment.
I will have a look at the quote and the scheduling over the weekend and I
should be able to get a response to you by Monday/Tuesday.
There will be many increases in effeciency, but I'll attempt to put some
sort of figure in with what I send you.
Have a great weekend.
Cheers
Jeff Lowder
Accessibility 1st
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> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:16:13 -0700
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> Subject: [WSG] linking to style sheet - how best?
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>
>
> Hi List,
>
> long time lurker who is trying to get more courageous with CSS. I am
> wondering what is the consensus for calling a style sheet. The @import
> rule or the link href method :
>
>
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Re: [WSG] Navigation using list tags and Screen Readers...
Hi Suzanne >From my experience, I don't think your problem comes from the nested list as such, but the CSS that tells the nested lists items to hide i.e. display: none; This is probably the best resource for finding out why - http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ScreenreaderVisibility Hope this helps. Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: > Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 08:30:29 -0600 > To: > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [WSG] Navigation using list tags and Screen Readers... > > Hi there, > > I have a designed a website using unordered lists for the navigation, > styled with CSS. When I ran this through HomePage reader, it could easily > read the initial list items, but could not read the nested list items > (flyouts). > > I have done a search and found a couple of references that states using an > unordered list will allow the screen reader to read the items like text, > but obviously I have not found this to be true. > > Is there anyone here who could provide some information or recommend a site > that addresses this topic? > > Thanks for your help. > > Suzanne > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Another plea for help: FF1.0 render problem
Hi Leslie Your problem occurs when you have the border-top: 0; after the border statement. If you take this out, it then works the same as in other browsers, strange I know. Hope this helps. Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Ph: 02 9570 9875 Mobile: 0419 350 760 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au > From: Leslie Riggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: > Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 18:35:58 -0600 > To: > Subject: [WSG] Another plea for help: FF1.0 render problem > > Hello, > I posted a few days ago, about this puzzler. Didn't get a response. I > REALLY need some help with this from you gurus. > > I primarily code for Firefox, then check other browsers, then IE6. The > majority of users who will view the pages on this site are IE users, > however, the fact that I see this rendering problem on the Gecko > browsers is really bothering me. The pages validate XHTML 1.1; CSS > validation comes back with no errors. > > I use the same style sheet for both pages. Both pages reference the > same DIVs for navigation and the content area. For some reason that I > can't fathom, the events page shows a gap between the nav bar (nav) and > the content area (containall). The home page does not show this gap. > I've checked and rechecked, changed this and that, to no avail. > > This only appears to be a problem with Firefox and other Gecko browsers > (Opera too). IE6 renders fine. > > Can anyone please help me figure this out? > > URL for problem page: > http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/events.html > > URL for CSS: > http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/css/mainstyles.css > > The links for the dates on the calendars are not working yet; I haven't > set them up -- I'm too hung up on this issue right now. > > If anyone can help, I'd be s thankful. > > Leslie Riggs > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE6 and my sidebar
Hi Kim The problems lies in the #content statement in layout.css If you change margin-left: 30px TO margin: 0 200px 0 30px; & get rid of the width: 420px; then it'll be more flexible. Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Ph: 02 9570 9875 Mobile: 0419 350 760 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au > From: Kim Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: > Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 00:37:40 +0100 > To: "wsg@webstandardsgroup.org" > Subject: [WSG] IE6 and my sidebar > > Hi, > > I've made this site http://republicana.dk/ and I have a problem with IE. > When the text is set to "larger" or "largest" the sidebar falls apart. > When using "largest" the content drops and looks really bad. I works > perfectly in FF 1 and Opera 7.5X. > > I've been looking at this for too long. Any help really appreciated. > > Thank you > Kim > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Heading without line break
display: inline Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au On 25/1/05 12:31 PM, "Ryan Sabir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heya? > > How would I tell a stylesheet to not put a line break at the end of an > Hx tag? > > e.g. > My heading and some more text. > > I want the words "and some more text." to appear on the same line. > > How would I do this? > > thanks, bye! > > > --- > Ryan Sabir > Newgency Pty Ltd > 2a Broughton St > Paddington 2021 > Sydney, Australia > Ph (02) 9331 2133 > Fax (02) 9331 5199 > Mobile: 0411 512 454 > http://www.newgency.com/index.cfm?referer=rysig > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Class -vs- ID
IDs have higher specificity is another. You can link/anchor to them that way. Cheers Jeff On 13/1/05 1:23 PM, "Chris Stratford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just wondering. > I was asked for the first time yesterday, what the big difference and > advantage to using an ID over a CLASS was... > I know why classes are good! > > What is the advantage of an ID over simply giving something an ID?? > > I know these facts, > Only 1 usage per ID per page... > Classes are unlimited, and you can assing Multiple classes to each > entity too... > > So... > Why? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS Roundbox
Hi Lori I've put a working solution up on my blog: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au Hope this helps Cheers Jeff On 11/1/05 2:37 PM, "Lori Leach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Terrence, > > Forgot to add, that the reason it wont work, is that in Roger's both his > "borders are the same". > On mine, the left border, the shadow would be inside+right. > The right border would be inside+left. > > Therefore, I cant use ONE image to do the borders.. I would need two. > > Do you see what I am saying? > > Lori Leach > ZenfulCreations > http://www.zenfulcreations.com/ > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Terrence Wood > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:18 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS Roundbox > > > [1] http://www.456bereastreet.com/lab/flexible_custom_corners_borders/ > > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS Roundbox
Hi Lori I see your dilemma. Terrance is right, the other one of Roger's should work. Cheers Jeff On 11/1/05 2:14 PM, "Lori Leach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeff, > > I went back to this one one more time, edited my images, and coded it up. > Here is what it looks like: > > http://www.zenfulcreations.com/client-files/do/lit/box/box.htm > > And remember, I need it to look like this one: > http://www.zenfulcreations.com/client-files/do/lit/shadow.gif > > So as you can see, I am missing the sides - how can I get them in there??? > Any help anyone can give is MORE than appreciated as I am very burned out on > this particular design project! > > Lori Leach > ZenfulCreations > http://www.zenfulcreations.com/ > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 7:12 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS Roundbox > > > I would use Roger's one: http://www.456bereastreet.com/lab/teaser/flexible/ > > Cheers > > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS Roundbox
I would use Roger's one: http://www.456bereastreet.com/lab/teaser/flexible/ Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au On 11/1/05 10:59 AM, "Lori Leach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a design that am coding, and I need to make a "css rounded corner > box" with shadows INSIDE: > > The box needs to look like: > http://www.zenfulcreations.com/client-files/do/lit/shadow.gif > > I have tried about ten different css rounded box options to get it to work, > and it is just NOT working! > > It needs to be fluid width, and exactly as it appears in the graphic. > > Has anyone ever seen a rounded corner box with INNER shadow anywhere online > so that I may take a gander at how they did it?? > > Thanks for any help! > > Lori Leach > ZenfulCreations > http://www.zenfulcreations.com/ > > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Can't get image and text to line up in unordered list...
Title: Re: [WSG] Can't get image and text to line up in unordered list...
Hi Kay
I would do something like this: (see attached)
Please add the alt attributes though :)
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On 5/1/05 11:47 AM, "Murphey, Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello all,
I'm having trouble with styling unordered lists. Am trying to get a thumbnail image to line up horizontally with some descriptive text. I have spent hours trying one suggestion after another - and I am close, but not there yet.
Can't quite grasp what is keeping the text on a separate line - I was hoping that display: inline would do the trick...
Please view my test page at http://www.community.nsw.gov.au/list_test.htm Any suggestions gratefully received and trialled.
The style sheet is very simple for this test:
ol, ul, li {margin: 0; padding: 0;}
#byitem { width: 400px; margin-left: 200px; }
#byitem ul.horz { float: left; list-style-type: none;}
#byitem ul.horz li { float: left; width: 45px; }
#byitem ul.horz li.name { width: 300px; margin-left: 70px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 14px; border-bottom: 1px solid #999; display: inline;}
Thanks for any help.
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Web Manager
Dept of Community Services
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RE: [WSG] Accessability testing
Hi James I personally find that Cynthia is a better "automated tool" than Bobby - and it certainly helps you find & fix up errors quicker, although I still really prefer to do accessibility testing myself by using Jaws & Lynx. Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cowperthwaite Sent: Thursday, 24 June 2004 3:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Accessability testing Hi - does anyone still use Bobby these days? I ask because we really have only used: CynthiaT Says - Web Content Accessibility Report (http://www.contentquality.com/) On a site we are developing we pass all Checklist items up to and including Priority 3 Verification with Cynthia, however our client is testing using Bobby and Usablenet, stating these are the 'industry standard'. Is this the case? If not could anyone hit me with a nice list objective comparison? Thanks James -- James Cowperthwaite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] height problem in firefox
If you read this tutorial at A List Apart, it'll show you how to achieve what you want. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/ Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Razvan Pop Sent: Thursday, 10 June 2004 1:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] height problem in firefox Thank you Susane. Any idea how i could make the left blue column fit the height of the page? Kindest Regards, Razvan Pop Susanne Jaeger wrote: > Razvan Pop schrieb, am 09.06.04 14:36: > >> http://eutest.cpea.ro/contul_meu.php >> >> Please take a look at that and maybe you can find out why the white >> background is not rendering OK in Firefox. >> The CSS: http://eutest.cpea.ro/stiluri/layout.css > > > #main doesn't have any non-floating and hence height relevant content. > You might try adding some clearing element at the end of #container, > after #main or just add float: left to the definition of #container. > I tried this via edit-styles bookmarklet in Mozilla and it works, I > think there shouldn't be any problems with other browsers, but check. > > Have a look at Eric Meyer's Containing Floats article to understand > what's happening. > <http://www.complexspiral.com/publications/containing-floats/> > > HTH > Susanne > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] meta http-equiv
Title: meta http-equiv Here’s the reference to W3C: http://www.w3.org/International/O-charset.html and http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#C_9 Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamie Mason Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2004 7:03 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [WSG] meta http-equiv Hey, just a quick question, is the below the correct markup for a transitional XHTML document? I thought the meta http-equiv was text/xhtml, so I've lost confidence in the rest of the code being correct also. Thanks a lot! Sorry to always be the one with the menial questions. Jamie Mason: Design T: (01423) 700849 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> Untitled Document
RE: [WSG] www.seoed.com - Please review
That's fine Lindsay, but I'm citing what is covered in the W3C guidelines regarding this: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#C_9 And as I stated in my response to Kay, if you're able to set the header information and be sure it will always stay that way, then by all means don't put in the meta-tag. Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindsay Evans Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2004 1:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] www.seoed.com - Please review Jeff wrote: > Hi Razvan > I'd only pick up 2 thinks to include: > 1. /> - or another appropriate character set. Then Kay wrote: > Isn't this only an issue if your server is not sending the > encoding in the headers? Correct. There is no need to specify a content-type meta tag in your HTML if your webserver is sending the correct HTTP headers, as seoed.com seems to be doing: Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-2 is exactly what it sounds like: an equivalent to a HTTP header /me thinks about doing a WSG HTTP presentation for about the 1000th time -- Lindsay Evans. Developer, Red Square Productions. [p] 8596.4000 [f] 8596.4001 [w] www.redsquare.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] www.seoed.com - Please review
W3C XHTML Spec C.9. - "If a document is to be served as multiple media types, the HTTP server must be used to set the encoding of the document." If you are working on an Intranet or Dedicated web-server then I would say you shouldn't have to worry about it too much, but if you're on a shared web server (as most people on this list would be) then I would definitely include a Content Type meta-tag as this will ensure the user agent recognises any character encoding, and the text is rendered correctly. Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kay Smoljak Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2004 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] www.seoed.com - Please review > 1. > - or another appropriate character set. Isn't this only an issue if your server is not sending the encoding in the headers? I've been removing this as unnecessary code bloat seeing as our server is configured correctly. If that's not the case I'd better start putting them back! -- Kay Smoljak Senior Developer/QC Leader/Search Optimisation PerthWeb Pty Ltd - http://www.perthweb.com.au/ Ph: 08 9226 1366 - Fax: 08 9226 1375 * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] www.seoed.com - Please review
Hi Razvan I'd only pick up 2 thinks to include: 1. - or another appropriate character set. 2. "Skip links" link - to main content. Other than a few things outlined by other people i.e. font-size in ems or % and more contrast in colors (navigation etc...) I think it's great. Well done. Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Razvan Pop Sent: Monday, 9 June 2003 1:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] www.seoed.com - Please review Hello. http://www.seoed.com/ Please take a look at my site and tell me what you think. :) I would like some more opinions regarding usability and accessibility. I look forward for your feedback. Site in 90% finished. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] new window losing it's anchor place
Title: RE: [WSG] new window losing it's anchor place Hi Wendy 1. Where is #how_work on the page? 2. You should also add onkeypress="window.open(this.href, 'popupwindow', 'toolbar=yes,location=yes,status=yes,menubar=yes,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=300,height=300'); return false;" just to make sure it's available via keyboard only. Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Phillips, Wendy Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2004 2:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] new window losing it's anchor place I'm using the recommended accessible way to open a new browser window (yes, I know but it's an elearning module and we have to link out to internal content so learners can view reference material without losing their place, plus they are quite used to this method). However, I'm finding that if the window is opened small to an anchor on the opened page, when the window is resized, the content in the window changes to another section of the page - about a half page worth downwards http://www.cdn.telstra.com.au/cc-foss/url/1product/isdn2blcomplete.htm#how_work" 'popupwindow', 'toolbar=yes,location=yes,status=yes,menubar=yes,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=300,height=300'); return false;"> any fixes welcome... WP > Wendy Phillips > Job Ready (Learning & Development) > Customer Sales & Service > ___ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6
You now have a problem that it doesn’t
look correct in IE5 without the 100%
So maybe do something like – in the
actual page:
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AWESOME!
Spot
on Jeff, you're a bottler!
Thanks,
I appreciate it muchly.
From:
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This is your problem: #navcontainer li a{display: block;padding: 5px 5px 5px 0.5em;border-left: 10px solid #326263;border-right: 10px solid #92C6C7;background-color: #498485;color: #EDF7F8;text-decoration: none;width: 100%; - you don’t need this}
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People,
I did this
site over the last weekend. Still needs more work though.
The
site seems to be working fine in most browsers except IE6. Bloody IE
Any help to
get it working in IE v6/Win would be appreciated.
People on
macs would you mind giving me your feedback too. Thanks.
The site: http://www.maysvillerotary.org
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RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6
This is your problem: #navcontainer li a{display: block;padding: 5px 5px 5px 0.5em;border-left: 10px solid #326263;border-right: 10px solid #92C6C7;background-color: #498485;color: #EDF7F8;text-decoration: none;width: 100%; - you don’t need this}
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Of Amit Karmakar
Sent: Monday, 7 June 2004 3:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WSG] Help with IE 6
People,
I did this site over the last
weekend. Still needs more work though.
The site seems to be working
fine in most browsers except IE6. Bloody IE
Any help to get it working in IE
v6/Win would be appreciated.
People on macs would you mind giving me your feedback too. Thanks.
The site: http://www.maysvillerotary.org
CSS: http://www.maysvillerotary.org/assets/styles/maysvillerotary.css
Regards,
Amit Karmakar
www.karmakars.com
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RE: [WSG] Site breaking in Mozilla
I’d recommend against using Image replacement in this instance as the only time it’ll be semantically correct to have the header as the H1 element would be the homepage of the site. e.g. on the news page - <h2>News Page - Style 2h2> really should be:<h1>News Page - Style 2h1> So I’d just put the header image directly into the page with alt text. i.e. <img src="index_files/logo_banner.jpg" width="600" height="100" alt="Texas Dental Hygienists' Association" /> Then, for all other pages except for the homepage do this: <img src="index_files/logo_banner.jpg" width="600" height="100" alt="Texas Dental Hygienists' Association" /> Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ward and Andrea Scott Sent: Monday, 7 June 2004 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Site breaking in Mozilla Thanks to Jeff and Kay, I have been able to clean up the site and code quite a bit. Unfortunately, there are a couple of things that I cannot seem to get a grasp on conceptually: 1. I don't understand why Mozilla is dropping the header down about 20px. I don't have either padding or margins in either the container or the #top header. 2. I have been trying to get the linked text to center vertically over the state of Texas. I thought that since the image was inserted as a background that all I needed was to center vertically, but it does not work. Thanks again, Ward - Original Message - > Most of your problems are coming from the standard box model problems > associated with IE. > -Original Message- > It seems that whenever I try to fix a problem in Mozilla, then IE > breaks. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions that y'all may have. > The files are located at: > > http://www.texasdha.org/temp/index.htm > http://www.texasdha.org/temp/styles1.css * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?
On Windows I use Homesite+ or XML SPY for HTML stuff & Topstyle Pro for CSS stuff (great combination), sometimes I use HTML-Kit as well (free-be product) I also use BBEdit on Mac Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of helmut Sent: Sunday, 6 June 2004 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use? What CSS/XHTML/HTML editors do you guys use for hand coding and testing? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] Site breaking in Mozilla
Hi Ward Most of your problems are coming from the standard box model problems associated with IE. I see that you're using the
RE: [WSG] IE... grrr
Hi Steve, IE commonly has problems with 100% width.
Thisâll fix it.
#calendar {
 color: #66;
 line-height: 140%;
 padding: 2px;
 text-align: center;
 width: 100%;
}
Cheers
Jeff Lowder
Accessibility 1st
Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au
Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/
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Of Collins, Steve
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2004 4:41 PM
To: Web Standards Group (E-mail)
Subject: [WSG] IE... grrr
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Can someone CSS-savvy please take a look at
http://stephencollins.blogdns.org/ and tell me why:
* my calendar renders beautifully in Firefox and crap
in IE?
* the right-side bar is indented a couple of pixels on
IE?
I assume it's some CSS non-compliance on IE's part,
but I'm
not clever enough to fix it...
Oh, and does anyone know a fix for the non-compliant
id's
Movable Type puts in?
Steve
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RE: [WSG] lotus domino vs doctype
Chris Bentley might be able to give you an exact DOM solution, as he had to deal with this exact same problem only 6 months ago, but I'd still just try working with HTML 4.01 :O) Cheers Jeff Lowder Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of matt sawkill Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2004 2:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] lotus domino vs doctype Great idea, but i can't get it to work - Have tried window.document.childNodes[0].nodeValue = ' "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN" \n "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">'; and similar in ie6, but the document stays in quirks mode. Any ideas or working examples of a doctype change? Also other browsers are returning the html tag not the doctype as the first node in the document. Cheers On 3 Jun 2004, at 13:47, Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st wrote: > With regard to the DOCTYPE, you could use a DOM script to re-write it, > if you like (I'd be wary though - you might end up with more in-valid > pages than not). > > I would first start with whatever the CMS can output easily (least > work), if that's HTML 4.0 then go with that - as this is still a > completely valid DOCTYPE - you don't necessarily have to go with XHTML > strict. > > HTML 4.01 STRICT might actually be a better/easier way to go anyway. > > Whatever DOCTYPE you use - just make sure it's a valid one, i.e. > > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> > > Cheers > > Jeff Lowder > Accessibility 1st > Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au > Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of matt sawkill > Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [WSG] lotus domino vs doctype > > Hi, > > I've been engaged to produce some standards compliant xhtml templates > for a largish website for a legal firm. > The programming and backend is being handled by another company - at > the clients request they are using the 'Lotus Workplace Web Content > Management' system (nee Aptrix) which is being integrated/built on top > of Lotus Domino. > > It turns out that Domino can only generate the following html 4 doctype > with no url - > Transitional//EN"> > > Found some confirmation of this here: > http://www.notestips.com/80256B3A007F2692/1/TAIO-5V5LQN > http://www.notestips.com/80256b3a007f2692/1/taio-5v73sc > > Which puts ie into quirks mode, and doesn't let me write xthml strict > either - obviously not a good thing when the site needs to be. > > Panic ensues. > > Anyone else come across this and have and advice/reliable hacks? > > Cheers, > Matt > > > > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > * > > > > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > * > > * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] lotus domino vs doctype
With regard to the DOCTYPE, you could use a DOM script to re-write it, if you like (I'd be wary though - you might end up with more in-valid pages than not). I would first start with whatever the CMS can output easily (least work), if that's HTML 4.0 then go with that - as this is still a completely valid DOCTYPE - you don't necessarily have to go with XHTML strict. HTML 4.01 STRICT might actually be a better/easier way to go anyway. Whatever DOCTYPE you use - just make sure it's a valid one, i.e. http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd";> Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of matt sawkill Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2004 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] lotus domino vs doctype Hi, I've been engaged to produce some standards compliant xhtml templates for a largish website for a legal firm. The programming and backend is being handled by another company - at the clients request they are using the 'Lotus Workplace Web Content Management' system (nee Aptrix) which is being integrated/built on top of Lotus Domino. It turns out that Domino can only generate the following html 4 doctype with no url - Found some confirmation of this here: http://www.notestips.com/80256B3A007F2692/1/TAIO-5V5LQN http://www.notestips.com/80256b3a007f2692/1/taio-5v73sc Which puts ie into quirks mode, and doesn't let me write xthml strict either - obviously not a good thing when the site needs to be. Panic ensues. Anyone else come across this and have and advice/reliable hacks? Cheers, Matt * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] Good DOM tutorial?
Hi Rev This is probably a good one to start on. http://www.w3schools.com/dhtml/default.asp Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen Sent: Tuesday, 25 May 2004 10:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Good DOM tutorial? The discussion about validating forms led me to download the DOM Level 1 spec again from the W3C, and after a moment or two I remembered why I'd scrubbed it off my disc the last time. It was either that or grab my Uzi and hunt down the people who wrote that spec. Right now I'm dependent on the kindness of strangers (the folks who wrote Opera's and Moz's JavaScript and DOM engines) for accepting some really evil code. Does anybody know a good DOM tutorial? -- Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen bob at crispen dot org Ex Cathedra Weblog: http://blog.crispen.org/ Some people just don't know how to drive... I call these people "Everybody But Me" * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] hiding styles from Mac IE5 : how to?
This is probably a good place to start: http://www.macedition.com/cb/ie5macbugs/ Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Ellis Sent: Saturday, 15 May 2004 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] hiding styles from Mac IE5 : how to? Hi all Having some problems with a site that is crashing IE5 on the Mac (OS8 to X). The code is moving towards HTML4 compliance with only a few character errors, tag ends i.e ">" instead of " />"' , and one id clash left to fix. I tested the site and it works perfectly on : IE5.5, 6 for Windows. The Geckos (Netscape 7, Mozilla, Camino, FF) Safari Opera 7.0 - 7.5 on all OS's partial (content readable) on IE5.0 for Win. I have borrowed an old Mac OS9 fliptop/frisbee and will do some testing on Monday - i came across this site http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/hiding/ while googling and am thinking of employing this method. Given that the site is usable for of users I'm not prepared to invest the time in hacking a stylesheet so that one browser that MS doesn't make any more is okwith the risk of breaking it for the above browsers. Unfortunately IE5 on OS9 is the only browser for this OS (apart from some older Mozilla's like 1.01) I'd rather hide styles which I know is the problem so has anyone had any experience with the single quote @import method in the above link?. I guess it'll hide em for NN4 as well. If you want to have a look at the site in IE5 on the Mac I can send a link off list. Cheers James * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
