Re: [WSG] form problem
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Michael Horowitz wrote: > Question anyone see why the textarea is showing up on a different line than > the label. Everywhere else it lines up correctly. The following works. <<-- changed from Comments: <<--Cols now 35 -- Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form problem
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Michael Horowitz wrote: > For some reason my text field http://terrorfreeamerica.us/christians.html > insists on putting the cursor in the middle of the field. Michael, You need your text field like this: Also you have a missing "=" in If you want your form to be accessible you will need your to be identical to your Neither of these two examples from your form are accessible. Zip: Christian Organization: The best way to check if you have it right is to click on the field name the cursor should start blinking in the input field. -- Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Lists CSS
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, Jixor - Stephen I wrote: > I thought there was a browser that used margin on lists also? IIRC, IE uses margins and Firefox uses padding. -- Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Bob Schwartz wrote: > The test site at > > http://www.fotografics.it/fife/ > > has been refurbished to make it more standards compliant, > > before moving on to the accessibility "layer" I would appreciate it if you > guys could check it out for any errors or "wrong practices" Bob, The navigation is dependent on javascript for the flyouts which not only do the flyouts cease to work when js is turned off they also become dead links leaving only a partial working menu. This would be very confusing for a screen reader user. -- Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] [admin] list mail turnaround
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Felix Miata wrote: > For quite some time I've had a problem with missed and late posts on > this list. I've talked to my ISP, as I'm sure the SPAM volume they have > to deal with contributes to the problem, but lately following threads Perhaps I can shed some light here. I have noticed for some time in my log files that some emails come to me with zero content from , which doesn't get delivered to my inbox. This is followed shortly after by, what I assume is the original message, arrives via rex.bne.gil.com.au which is my secondary MX. Your ISP is probably not accepting messages for POP accounts from their secondary MX, particularly if they are from a mailing list. Secondary and Tertiary MXs are a target, read source of delivery, for spammers. The problem may be with mail.webboy.net ? -- Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
[WSG] More on IE7
Hi, Saw this on another list. The IEBlog "Standards and CSS in IE" at http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx -- Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
[WSG] Page check please - lionsq3
Hi All, I need some help in checking the following page is rendering Ok in IE 5.x and IE 6. I am unable to test in these browsers due to a hd crash and the subsequent decision it was time to refurbish my system. Until finished I have no access to any version of Windows. All I can test on is the various brousers on Linux. I was asked to have this page functioning by our meeting on Sunday. The only feedback I have is from the person who requested that the page be ready by sunday. The feedback: "Is there any reason the top of the page is blank?" Asking what version of Windows he is using created only silence. I took a guess and made an adjustemt of 2% in the width of the dl. http://www.lionsq3.asn.au/phorms/cabinet/ The css for the list is at, http://www.lionsq3.asn.au/css/formlist.css The main css is at, http://www.lionsq3.asn.au/css/lionsq3.css TIA Rob. -- Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Skip Navigation Visibility
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, Patrick Lauke wrote: But I have to say, on that Lions site, it's disingenious to have the "skip" appear on the far right. Users with low vision may only see a small fraction of the actual page (if they use screen magnifiers or just have their resolution set really low). Traditionally they'll start to read top-left. Now, first TAB, and if they only see a screen section equivalent to the width of the logo, say, they may completely miss the this feature. Good point Patrick, I'll fix it to appear over the logo. This means the top nav items would be better placed on the left, so there is no risk of any navigation not being seen. -- Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Skip Navigation Visibility
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: Hi Rob For a compromise http://www.lionsq3.asn.au the tab key reveals the skip links. I have tried pressing the tab key, but the skip menu does not appear. Am I doing something wrong here? Am using a mac, if that makes any difference. Oh Damn, I guess I will have to make it visible again. I have only tested it on FF, IE6 and IE5. -- Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Skip Navigation Visibility
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, russ - maxdesign wrote: What about users who rely on keyboards but have sight (users with some form of motor skill or mobility deficiency)? Visible skip menus can be very important for these users. A visible skip link allows them to jump over content or navigation (depending on how the site is set up) and possibly avoid having to tab numerous times to get to the content they need. A skip link is the first tab they will hit when they come to a site. For a compromise http://www.lionsq3.asn.au the tab key reveals the skip links. -- Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Should we be thankful for IE's non-development?
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Chris Blown wrote: > On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 12:20, Chris W. Parker wrote: > > David R <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I don't think so. It'd just be more of the same. Some people would have > > old browsers that don't work right and other people would have newer > > browsers that do work right. Which browsers they are makes no difference > > imo. > > > > I strongly believe that Microsoft are fully aware of their strangle hold > and until something like Firefox becomes a significant threat, they will > sit by idle without a care in the world and claim that IE is everything > their customers wanted. You are right about that. Check out this link, and in particular the referenced email from Microsoft. http://www.linuxpipeline.com/57701967 -- Get FireFox > http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliates&id=0&t=1 Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] stretch them columns
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Ted Drake wrote: > Hi All > I know this has been covered, but I can't remember where to look. I just put > together a quick, and I do mean quick, sample site, > http://www.tdrake.net/greens to test a design concept. I want the two content > bars to stick to the outside edges and the empty space between to expand and > contract with the page size. It's a pretty simple concept. > > Think of it as two pieces of paper on a desk and you can move them back and > forth, but you still see the desk behind them. > So, here's my question. > I need the columns to stretch to the bottom of the screen so that they are > always equal length. I've used faux columns before, but this is a fluid > layout. What is the method for making columns extend to the bottom of the > screen? > > Thank you for your help. I know I could have googled this to my hearts > content, but I also figured other people might be interested in the answer. Ted, Take a look at http://www.unsworth.net It is something I am working on for our Lions District. -- Get FireFox > http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliates&id=0&t=1 Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Mozilla - Dont You Just Love It?
On Sun, 16 May 2004, Mordechai Peller wrote: > Chris Stratford wrote: > > >-moz-border-radius > > > >I have to say that, i think its the *BEST* modification I have seen in a LONG > >time... > >I wish that IE had implemented something similar, I know its not valid CSS. > > > > > I read that Mozilla included it, as well as others, not to offer extra > standard features, but for internal use, i.e., the browser's chrome. This is the future. http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-css3-border-20021107/ look under 3.3 The 'border-radius' properties -- Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] Standards, SPAM, and accessibility - three hot topics all in one
On Sun, 16 May 2004, theGrafixGuy wrote: > (the web is not the (Internet) Yes that was correct. > > You are CORRECT in that, the Internet is a part of the web. However, > RESPECTFULLY, you sir are completely INCORRECT in the claim that SPAM is NOT > on topic. To say so would be like claiming the tail is not part of the cat > and therefore should be ignored. The Internet is _not_ part of the web. The web is part of the internet. > To define - let us go to look up the terms. > > The "Internet" is the largest internet and is composed of backbone networks, > mid-level networks and stub networks. (source: dictionary.com) > > The World Wide Web, commonly referred to as the "web", primarily in the form > of html and http is the most commonly known aspect of the Internet. However, > the World Wide Web consists of a wide array of protocols and communications > standards that range far beyond http and include EVERYTHING from internet to > FTP, Gopher, Telnet, news as well as via the http protocol to transfer > hypertext documents. (source: dictionary.com ) None of those are for email. > e-mail - A system for sending and receiving messages electronically over a > computer network, as between personal computers. And also: A message or > messages sent or received by such a system. (source: dictionary.com ) Definately not an http protocol. > > The group is the WEB Standards Group - correct? "Web" equals WORLD WIDE WEB. > And the definitions are above - The group is NOT called the Internet > Standards Group, nor is it called the http standards group, By the Group's > own name, it leads itself to a broad category covering accessibility and > many many other issues regarding use and design of the Internet as well as > FTP, Telnet and so on. Yes it is the Web Standards Group and not an email standards group, that is a different protocol. At this point I realised you need to do some serious research on how all these protocols fit together to make up the Internet. > > As we are dealing in semantics here, (which is the norm as CSS is very > semantic is it not?), the proper statement should have been that SPAM is not > a preferred topic rather than an OFF-TOPIC matter) Off topic would > incorrectly imply that SPAM is not e-mail and e-mail is not part of the Web > which is a HUGE network. Spam is an abuse of email. The point you seem to missunderstand, and need to research is that email is not part of the web it is a part of the internet. The web is also part of the internet > > Just like coding in CSS and HTML, it's all a matter of definition (You can't > use an tag to add properties to text! And by strict definition the > subject is on topic. I however will digress and accept that it is not a > preferred topic of discussion. As email/spam is not part of the web it is definately off topic. You are in fact suggesting that any topic related to the internet should be on topic, which means, according to your wishes, everything is on topic. Now lets drop this and get back to web standards. -- Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] Australian Communications Authority
On Sun, 2 May 2004, James Ellis wrote: > Hi > > Following on from this, it's the kind of thing a Web Standards Group > whitepaper could help with - drawing on everyone's collective knowledge. > > ..or a press release... coming after the Australian Gov's $4 million IT > dept website fiasco last year, it may be picked up by a few outlets. > > Ideas? An official press release from the Web Standards Group would carry more weight than an individual. Written by someone with better journalistic skills that yours truly. -- Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia| http://www.lionsq3.asn.au - * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] Australian Communications Authority
On Sun, 2 May 2004, Lea de Groot wrote: > On Sun, 2 May 2004 16:05:53 +1000, Christiaan Knol wrote: > > 2. Safari - NO navigation > > Oh It was my browser that was the problem. > Silly me, I was thinking that it was the site.. > > > Clearly, (Australian) government departments need to get more > information on standards based development. > Perhaps an equivalent of the US 508 legislation? > Loath as I am to encourage more legislation passing, any thoughts on > how we can get something like this here? I thought about being off topic, but it is web standards, or a lack of. I was looking for feedback as I think I am about to write a letter telling the ACA that they wasted my tax dollars on that site. -- Regards, Rob Unsworth Ipswich, Australia --- * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
[WSG] Australian Communications Authority
Hi all, I just had reason to visit the ACA web site, http://www.aca.gov.au In their own words. "The website has been redesigned to allow users to easily find their way around the site. The new site has five information categories:" And from the Accessibility page. Nah, I'll let you enjoy the experience. You'll have more fun with flash and Javascript turned off. I like the idea of the 345kb PDF that is provided to help me to use the site. -- Regards, Rob Unsworth Ipswich, Australia --- * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] New User
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, G A R Y C R O U C H [ A I T ] wrote: > Are there any members in Brisbane? Ipswich is close. -- Regards, Rob Unsworth Ipswich, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
RE: [WSG] Sorry about the old posts
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Peter Firminger wrote: > > The source of the old post is, > > Tim [deleted] My sincerest apology to Tim. A very bad choice of words on my part, I did not mean to convey the impression that Tim was directly responsible, only that he was being used as a possible source for spam. Another incident where my mind thinks of something and the fingers forget to type it. Sorry Tim. -- Regards, Rob Unsworth Ipswich, Australia - * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Sorry about the old posts
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Peter Firminger wrote: > They seem to be emanating from a bt.com smtp server. > > Any ideas BT members? > > Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Received: from smtp4.smtp.bt.com [217.32.164.151] by mail.webboy.net with > SMTP; >Wed, 17 Mar 2004 12:34:52 +1100 The source of the old post is, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Check the header of the post previous to the repeat of Russ's post. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that this is the work of a spammer looking for a way to access the list. -- Regards, Rob Unsworth Ipswich, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
