hi ben,
one more thing.
i have a big project on the horizon, i have to reformat this site with
webstandards
http://www.donegaldirect.com/
As you can see there is a lot of feeds and lists,
Would you consider tables for any of the conten on this site?
There are a lot of pages that have content th
Thanks Peter, and Ben, for great insight.
I will try to a collaborative aproach with the developer.
I know that a in a previous situation with another developer we used
repeaters to output standards code,
i would like to be able to stick css possitioning into a form repeater for
him. im not ev
thanks ben,
ok maybe im overeacting a bit, it gets to me when i spend time doing
something with css
then it goes out the window for a table,
would you just use p's and h's instead of the definition list in the middle
column body text?
I dont know about using the table for the special offers
thanks geoff, i guess thats i will have to be level headed in my aproach.
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adam wrote:
Perhaps you should encourage some development of a collection of base
controls for your development team?
yes i will make a case for this,
any suggestions for my arguments???
basically need to sell the project manager who is cool but only concerned
with
the bottom line. The devel
Rachel
Yes the comments have been helpful, basically confirming my suspicions.
If you would like to see some examples of what im talking about heres one of
the 1st sites i did with the programmer in question. notice the special
offers section and the reservations form-when he got it there wasnt
hello,
i just went to a lot of trouble style a form, fieldsets, legends and all.
The visual studio programmer whos taking over the next phase says it will be
coverted into tables.
"we can't control database content all we can do is contain it"
that was his argument. why cant he contain it
thanks russ and crew,
my mistake was that i was putting the class first...
like this
.one ul li a:hover{
background-color: #88CAEF;
}
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How would i target a:hover on the following links?
I tried a few things but cant get down to the classes(one, two).
bla bla
bla
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your the man.
-will do on the fixed font sizes
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g CSS,
your prob right but what about that flash as a css background someone was
posting about here a while back??
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t its only working in ff 1.5
i fixed the body tag. still no help.
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http://www.mcmonagle.biz/finalsite/theme.css
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sorry please disregard that last observation i made about your footer
breaking. i had another style sheet loaded into the page by accident
looks good
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did you test it in firefox yet?
In ff your footer seems to break way out of the wrapper.
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felix,
dont mean to throw another log on the fire...but i think the font size can
vary somewhat depending on the nature of the content.
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serious there..."
...lisa please stop horsing around...
i guess i will have to research the issue more...
try and find the balance..
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sheets/skins etc..
i dont want my designs to look crappy but i personally always up the text
a couple sizes for easier reading using command +- in ff.
would be cool to implement something that allowed users to do the same in
ie.
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What did Felix advise?
"He's right as far as he went. There's another serious accessibility
problem he didn't touch on, plus a corollary, which you can see in the
screenshot. In your CSS is an accessibility issue, as well as one of
manners: 'body {font:75%...'. Browser makers provide users with
I will do as josh suggested.
Actually using flash is a good idea for the maps especially as they are
going national and will have all counties in the republic on there.
The "you are here" is a breadcrumb that has yet to be programmed.
good idea on using positioned text instead of the image ma
thanks guys,
Yes we did double check and make sure he checked the right site.
at first i thought he surely must have been checking the old site...
http://www.families.ie/
but no he was checking the right url.
The consultant is an employee of the irish government.nevermind i wont
go there.
hello i have a site that i need a bit of advice on, i got some great help
here allready for it.
..1st it dosnt validate right now but i will get it to pass after i address
some other issues.
the site was critiqued rather harshly by a third party consultant- here is
the original email.
-not sure
Hi Al,
nice layout, future proof and all,
The only bummer is that it sets off my i.e content blocker.
-looked at the javascript and my vision got blurry.
Is there anything to look out for when playing with the column widths?
-thanks
kvnmcwebn
Paul-
"I think your initial DT element is widowed and needs at least
one DD before the next DT because it functions as the title for the
entire subsequent structure. This looks like two-level nesting to
me, and I'd tend to mark it up like this:"
kvn-
I think you hit the nail on the head, i knew
: Click to view.
Email: Send Email..
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the search engines to consider but unless im mistaken
my biggest concern when using javascript is to do it unobtrusively so as not
to set off blockers. is this skewed?
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no can you share yours?
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then use css for the background or is there some way of getting all 3 images
in the css as background images?
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does the ie7 beta allow scaling of fonts set in pixels?
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jay wrote,
"Does it make sense to be considering hacks yet?"
Well someone here (no names :) told me a while back that
the *hmtl hack was ie future proof so maybe not.
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ok thanks,
just to clarify a point: what odds that the ul id have a semantically
suitable name-beside making sense to people working in the code after me?
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Once or twice I've ask a question here and got a wee sting along with my
awnser. Thats very rare though and doesnt bother me.
Anyway a cheeky experts advice works the same as a one with manners.
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patrick wrote
"As someone already mentioned, the source order should be enough to inform
what the heading refers to, without the need for explicit association."
sorry i dont understand this could someone please explain?
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Siteframe
TYPO3
Xoops
These are the options I can automatically install with a hosting package.
Should i use one of these or try and setup text pattern on my own?
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"This might be something to
do with the Flash items on the lower right, because they flickered
around where the nav items were before positioning themselves
properly:"
thanks, i hadnt noticed that, hopefully when i embed those using the ufo
system it will solve the flickering.
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oops problem solved, my fault..
-
hello all,
Im using the ufo flash embed method.Something is adding about 30px of
padding or height to the top of my swf. If i resize the dimensions in the
html it takes from the top and bottom of the movie so that some of the swf
is cut off at the bottom.
hello all,
Im using the ufo flash embed method.Something is adding about 30px of
padding or height to the top of my swf. If i resize the dimensions in the
html it takes from the top and bottom of the movie so that some of the swf
is cut off at the bottom.
heres the page
209.200.102.116
any sugge
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Maybe OT but i thought i try here first.
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What's your favourite colour?
black
white
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I just made a form without tables using something similar to the above.
With forms it seems like if you dont use the table you'll have to use a lot
of hacks for the browser discrepencies. Id rather use the hacks than the
t
are the graphics vectors?
Opening from Adobe illustrator would
keep everything nice and editable.
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/*\*/ overflow: hidden; /* no neetd for Mac IE5 to see this */
}
got the code from frames w/o frames site and its become a bit messy as ive
been editing it, changing ems to pixels and so on. any help would be
appreciated.
thanks
kvnmcwebn
subtle on your page but i have recently built a
page with the same problem but more pronounced. Any idea on what causes this
and how to fix it? It only happens once then you need to refresh to see it
again.
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try
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Patrick wrote:
"Any new developments should
really be done in a strict doctype, IMHO."
How difficult is it to jump to strict from transitional doctypes?
Is it a whole other ballgame or just a matter of dotting your t's and
crossing your i's?
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*
ground image for the footer instead of
defining its height.
thanks again.
I see a couple more things that i will fix,
then i have to fire it over to the .net guy, who will probably add
validation errors;{
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/families/final11.htm
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www.mcmonagle.bix/mockup/index6.css
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honestly say that my knowlege of standards, such as it is, is starting
to generate SUBSTANTIAL business for me.
My ws goal in 2006 is to become comfortable with liquid layouts an maybe
even start using ems instead of px.
nollaig seona duith
kvnmcwebn
best things i learned this year-
1)the star selector hack and before that the underscore hack
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this might be a bit of dumb question
anyideas on how to get this keyword search box any narrower in ie? something
like it is in firefox
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http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/index3.css
(ie code for search box at bottom of stylesheet)
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>When we build
> sites, unconsciously we use patterns all the time - it's just very
> little work has been done trying to capture and document them.
dosnt ted drakes standardista rollyo search thingy sorta do this?
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thanks for the sound advice, i will put it to good use.
I just realized that basically the home page is a site map right now!
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"Negative margins will always come back to haunt you later :D"
I suppose I was cutting corners using them...its just that sometimes
they seem to save a lot of hassle-probably because i dont
have a deep enough understanding of document flow and such.
thanks
"The change below worked for me.
.mainleft ul {
margin-top: 0px;"
thanks paul that simplifies it,
also
i always get stuck with these crazy navition schemes.
The client signed of on this layout with different content then came back
with loads more
subcategory links then he had origina
Not looked at your CSS, but...there's really no need to get out negative
margins. Have you set the bottom margin (and padding) of the h3 and the
top margin (and padding) of the ul (and possibly the li elements therein)?
i just set all of the above to 0 and it worked.
thanks patrick
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just tryin to narrow the distance between my h3 element and some unordered
lists.
easy enough in ff but negative margins dont seem to budge the ul in ie.
example html
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/final5.htm
css
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/index3.css
http://www.mcmonagle.bi
kvnmcwebn,Are you talking about my site: http://www.smashingred.com or Joe's
site: http://www.sitesbyjoe.com
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sorry i meant joe not jay,
pretty cool jay,
what about the top links bottom border disapearing on the hover though?
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> Personally, I don't think the logos Do It - they are too techie and
> Joe Average doesn't see what they mean.
>
i like the approach of this site that uses
text links(footer) in the overal style of the site
http://www.monc.se/work/
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The processes of building a site with standards cool.
Best practices that cover every stage from
planning to customer sign off that can be found on
this lists posts and moderators/members sites.
For me it makes job turnaround smoother and quicker.
Im only starting to play around with liquid layouts.
I like this 3 column example that uses min widths.
For non-mozilla browsers it uses horizontal rules to set the min scaling of the
boxes.
It then hides these from browser that support min width, it seems a bit
reduntant to me but.
http://ww
pper might get you a good color aswell. Well thats what i would
try
anyway
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cool site,
just a minor observation, the strong orange color
is used alot, on main links, heads so on.
Maybe throw another color into the mix to differentiate
between hyperlinks and heads. maybe FFCC00,
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nice
work,
but
instead of scaling the entire masthead image why not just have the images float
over to the right? and then the brown background under the the text image would
get wider?
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The way that it uses the white space is nice
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-they could do an introductory tutorial or two.
This one is good though maybe its not exactly what
your looking for.
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What sort of attribution would you like if I borrow it?"
It is brilliant Lachlan
i'd like to use it to if you don't mind.
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"Just a thought, but if all the links are counties within a greater whole,
why not use a happy "map" image map interface? Thats a-okay standards-wise,
and degrades nicely into a list of links, and looks cute for visitors."
Joe there is a mapping system done w/ flash, i have to tie
that in as wel
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"..it could be hotels/county gives a better result in
navigation terms"
This makes sense but this particular site has a lot of
categories and sub categories, almost as many as counties...
thanks a million
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for the replies-this is going to be
tuff-Patrick--->>the menu functionality
reli
dropdowns/
Here was another suggestion that i thought might work
but they are not impressed. (view in ie)
http://mcmonagle.biz/newoti/otinavtest.htm
what about these simpler methods?
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seo friendly?
Choose a Destination
http://www.mySite.com/default.asp";>Home
http://www.mySite.com/contact.asp";>Contact Us
http://www.mySite.com/help.asp";>mySite.com Help
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brillant thanks,
Adding overflow: hidden; to .navcontainer ul does exactly what
i need it to in firefox-i.e didnt respond to it.
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Ted:
Adding the overflow: y-scroll property takes care of ff and ie.
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Joseph:
I tried wrapping the lot in the b
Hello,
A client has requested that a long menu be contained in
a fixed hieght situation with a vertical scroll bar.
Im doing a test with code from the list o matic site.
Heres an example.
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/otinavtest.htm
the problem is that its hard to loose the horizontal scroll bar
and
hello,
im not sure if this will help and im not sure if it would validate but read
this
http://www.flashkit.com/board/showthread.php?p=3284355#post3284355
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visual elements into your site and improve the overall look and
feel?
good
idea:
another option is to look for pre-designed templates(cringe)-free or
otherwise.
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r patience
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also i will start validating my css as well as the html.
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sorry i fired that off without the
url.
here
is the page that is hiding the external stylesheet from firefox
somehow.
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/index5.htm
hello,
any ideas why firefox is ignoring my external stylesheet.
It was working fine, i did something stupid.
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Even after the learning process is completed?
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w non-table layouts will show up in visual
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Thanks seona and josh,
".although when they say "accessibility" they are probably thinking of
screen readers and users who can't use a mouse, accessibility also
includes being able to access the information and basic functionality
of a site in numerous browsing devices.
they
mark up my designs and ad the vb .net code a typical page will be running
validation errors in the hundreds. I told them that they need to start with
web standards and get thier pages to validate before they start on
accessability.
Was that sound advice?
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i think its pretty helpful the way it is.
Maybe provide a bit more background information at the top.
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thanks georg that brilliant.
i slightly modified some source from the frames with no frames site because
it used more block elements than yours.
you can check out the basic template that i created if you like
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/final9.htm
I should have asked sooner.
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e 100% height problem on my own. I tried
converting 3 column stretched width layouts to vertical a vertical
format buy no joy.
Right now I'm trying another fixed height version but its a big
comprimize in the look im going for.
Hope to get some good advice here.
attemp. It works better in ie that ff right now.
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/final5.htm
I took the method for the corners/shadow from
TJKDesign but it needs work
thanks thanks for any suggestions.
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looks nice,
on my dialup connection it loads a bit slow, not to to bad.
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sorry all, i've found the tutorial that
might help me with this problem so i will try and
figure it out on my own.
thanks
sorry
thats
http://mcmonagle.biz/test.htm
http://mcmonagle.biz/test2.htm
the middle div dosn't
resize.
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/test.htm
In
this example the middle div resizes but the shadows break.
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/test.htm
Does
anyone have suggestions to simplify this?
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