Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-02-02 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
What kind of mobile phone does the average person use? … As for that figure, I'm not sure that includes browsers that don't actually support javascript at all! … The right question to ask would be what kind of mobile phone does the average person use to browse the web?. My point is, that those

RE: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread Dave Hall
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 23:48 -0500, Rick Faircloth wrote: According to statistics supplied by w3schools.com, as of Jan 08 approximately 95% of users had JS enabled. Check out http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp and look towards the middle of the page for the stats. Just to

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
IMO stats from tech sites are not very representative of the general intarwebs user base. Exactly, only this can mean the opposite of what you state: more tech savy users know how to turn Javascript off, unlike the general public. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread Blake
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Dave Hall w...@skwashd.com wrote: I would suggest that w3schools attracts a more switched on user than say Live Search, YouTube or myspace/facebook/insert social network here. Stats from those types of sites are what I would be more interested in seeing. Good

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Rimantas Liubertas riman...@gmail.comwrote: Exactly, only this can mean the opposite of what you state: more tech savy users know how to turn Javascript off, unlike the general public. One other thing to bear in mind is that we are mostly thinking of users

RE: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread James Leslie
Another point to note is that many mobile phones have JavaScript enabled so this figure may increase with the expected rise in mobile popularity. *** Sorry - that should have said disabled not enabled ** *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Another point to note is that many mobile phones have JavaScript enabled so this figure may increase with the expected rise in mobile popularity. *** Sorry - that should have said disabled not enabled ** I actually see mobile browsing rising in popularity when browsers on gadgets are full

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread James Milligan
Was about to say! Very true, but the iPhone is proving a popular combination, especially with unlimited data on contract, and JS is turned on by default. There is an option to turn it off, but I doubt many would do so. PS I'm using an iPhone all the time now, typing this message one one!

RE: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread MichaelMD
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 13:07 +, James Leslie wrote: Another point to note is that many mobile phones have JavaScript enabled so this figure may increase with the expected rise in mobile popularity. *** Sorry - that should have said disabled not enabled ** not just many ... actually I

[WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Simon Pascal Klein
Comments inline: On 27/01/2009, at 7:33 AM, Jessica Enders wrote: Hi Pascal In the JavaScript/Accessibility/form validation discussion you mention the growing number of users who purposefully disable JavaScript. I'm always curious just how many people this is. Do you, or does anyone

RE: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Paul Hudson
To: Jessica Enders Cc: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript Comments inline: On 27/01/2009, at 7:33 AM, Jessica Enders wrote: Hi Pascal In the JavaScript/Accessibility/form validation discussion you mention the growing number of users who purposefully

RE: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Rick Faircloth
[mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Simon Pascal Klein Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:59 PM To: Jessica Enders Cc: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript Comments inline: On 27/01/2009, at 7:33 AM, Jessica Enders wrote

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Paul Hudson wrote: Doesn't ie6's highest security setting turn js off? Yes, and all that goes with it - like IE-expressions. I haven't looked at ie7 but would assume similar. IE7 same as IE6. From the look of it - brief testing - IE8b2 also turns off script-support in high security mode.