Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-06-14 Thread Paul Collins
Sorry, I've been away for a while and lost track of this, thanks to everyone for your comments. I think what you have said is right in that perhaps the intro text doesn't really have any semantic value, so there doesn't need to be any tag to match it. Thanks again for all your replies. On

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-26 Thread Paul Collins
OK, thanks for your help, I just thought there may be some kind of HTML tag that adds seperate semantic value to the introductory paragraph, to differentiate it from the strong text in the body, like the big tag for example. I will probably use the strong tag then. Cheers Paul On 25/05/07,

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-26 Thread Jamie Collins
Stay away from Strong. Strong is presentational, same as B, and I. Presentation should be in HTML and content in HTML. use span class=important for text that needs to be emphasised. On 5/26/07, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, thanks for your help, I just thought there may be some

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-26 Thread Jamie Collins
TYPO ALERT! Presentation should be in CSS and Content in HTML. God knows what made me type HTML twice. On 5/26/07, Jamie Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stay away from Strong. Strong is presentational, same as B, and I. Presentation should be in HTML and content in HTML. use span

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-26 Thread Rob Kirton
Stay away from Strong. Strong is presentational, same as B, and I. Presentation should be in HTML and content in HTML. use span class=important for text that needs to be emphasised. I would argue to the contrary. Strong has much more meaning than a span class. The word /tag itself implies

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-26 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Jamie Collins wrote: Stay away from Strong. Strong is presentational, same as B, and I. Aeh...excuse me? Since when? Presentation should be in CSS and content in HTML. use span class=important for text that needs to be emphasised. Sorry, but that's rubbish. If text *needs to be

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-26 Thread Jamie Collins
Patrick, It all depends on the person using it. I have seen alot of people use strong to bold general peices of text. There is a big difference in making text bold and empasising its meaning. If the use for stong is a valid use, then i wont disagree. I must have read the first post wrong, i

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-26 Thread Tim Offenstein
Stay away from Strong. Strong is presentational, same as B, and I. Presentation should be in HTML and content in HTML. use span class=important for text that needs to be emphasised. I would argue to the contrary. Strong has much more meaning than a span class. The word /tag itself implies

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-26 Thread Paul Novitski
At 5/26/2007 05:59 AM, Paul Collins wrote: OK, thanks for your help, I just thought there may be some kind of HTML tag that adds seperate semantic value to the introductory paragraph, to differentiate it from the strong text in the body, like the big tag for example. I will probably use the

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-26 Thread Designer
Paul Novitski wrote: I think the problem with using strong to demarcate your introduction isn't that strong is presentational (it's not) but rather that it does nothing to express what's different semantically about an introduction. You may wish to present the introductory paragraph in a

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-26 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 26 May 2007, at 18:04:38, Designer wrote: Presumably, p title=introduction and p id=introduction would do the trick also? Using the title attribute means pointing-device-users would get a tooltip saying introduction obscuring the text if they happened to have the cursor hovering over

RE: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-26 Thread Steve Green
levels as low as 4x, given that magnifier users also tend to use 800x600 resolution. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Fitzsimons Sent: 26 May 2007 18:53 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-26 Thread Designer
] semantic HTML for intro text On 26 May 2007, at 18:04:38, Designer wrote: Presumably, p title=introduction and p id=introduction would do the trick also? Using the title attribute means pointing-device-users would get a tooltip saying introduction obscuring the text if they happened to have

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-26 Thread Paul Novitski
At 5/26/2007 10:04 AM, Designer wrote: Presumably, p title=introduction and p id=introduction would do the trick also? My own preference would be for the latter. Of course, if you are referring to a GROUP of paragraphs constituting the introduction, then Paul's class would have to be used.

[WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-25 Thread Paul Collins
Hi all, Just marking up a page, the layout seems to require various tags, as far as I can gather, I need seperate tags for: - The intro heading (a H2) - The orange intro text (not sure what tag to add here) - a smaller, bold heading, same size as body text (probably a h3) - a quote (probably a

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-25 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 25 May 2007, at 18:03:06, Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, Just marking up a page, the layout seems to require various tags, as far as I can gather, I need seperate tags for: - The intro heading (a H2) - The orange intro text (not sure what tag to add here) - a smaller, bold heading, same size

Re: [WSG] semantic HTML for intro text

2007-05-25 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, If the choice of the colour orange is to add emphasis to this text, the answer to this part is really a no brainer - code it with emphasis (the actual colour/styling is down to the CSS). I would use strong markup for this. On Fri, May 25, 2007 7:56 pm, Nick Fitzsimons wrote: On 25 May