Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-28 Thread David Laakso 

Elizabeth Spiegel wrote:

Hi David

Not a comment about your code, but your information design.

Why are the images/examples of effective use scattered across the site and
in some cases repeated?  Why not place them on a 'using our product' (or
similar) page?


Elizabeth Spiegel
  




Elizabeth, you raise a good point with which I agree. This is currently 
being considered.


Thanks.

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RE: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-28 Thread Elizabeth Spiegel 
Hi David

Not a comment about your code, but your information design.

Why are the images/examples of effective use scattered across the site and
in some cases repeated?  Why not place them on a 'using our product' (or
similar) page?


Elizabeth Spiegel
Web editing

0409 986 158
GPO Box 729, Hobart TAS 7001
www.spiegelweb.com.au



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Comments and suggestions on this site appreciated.
markup
<http://chelseacreekstudio.com/mhr/>
css
<http://chelseacreekstudio.com/mhr/css/style.css>

Thanks.
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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread David Laakso 

Duncan Hill wrote:



OK. Know from nothing about tables. Will look into.

David, I found this article a help in getting started with marking up 
tables correctly.


article by Zoe Gillenwater
http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=0BEA6

Duncan




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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread Duncan Hill 



OK. Know from nothing about tables. Will look into.

David, I found this article a help in getting started with marking up  
tables correctly.


article by Zoe Gillenwater
http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?cid=0BEA6

Duncan


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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread David Laakso 

Paul Novitski wrote:

At 1/26/2010 01:07 AM, David Laakso wrote:

Comments and suggestions on this site appreciated.
markup




The blank alt attributes for the foreground images are brow-wrinklers 
for me. When an image is in the foreground I figure that it is 
"content" that contributes substantially to the comprehension of the 
site, and I see no reason to withhold that information from search 
engines and other sightless users.




I see no reason to withhold information from anyone, particularly from 
search engines or sightless users; and, consequently, alt attributes 
will, of course, be added well in due time of the site's launch date.


One of the site's owners requests is that the site be functional and 
usable in any given screen window from 640px and up. This, at least as 
of this writing, precludes the possibility of using background images.





 


Regards,

Paul




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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread Paul Novitski 

At 1/26/2010 01:07 AM, David Laakso wrote:

Comments and suggestions on this site appreciated.
markup




The blank alt attributes for the foreground images are brow-wrinklers 
for me. When an image is in the foreground I figure that it is 
"content" that contributes substantially to the comprehension of the 
site, and I see no reason to withhold that information from search 
engines and other sightless users. In contrast, when an image is 
purely "decor" and contributes aesthetically but not 
"informationally" then I like to see it as a background image where 
it hovers ghostlike, insubstantial, visible but not touching the 
content nor touchable by a parsing hand.


(Of course the aesthetic components of any work are part of its total 
information, but in terms of the content/presentation dichotomy we 
work with every day we can usually separate them with little effort. 
For example, which foreground and background colors you use for a 
website featuring construction equipment are irrelevant to the 
product content at hand. The colors might well be relevant to the 
client if they echo the corporate palette, but not worthy of bringing 
to the attention of a screen-reader or search engine -- except in 
those cases where the cosmetic design is brought to the foreground in 
an article on corporate communication or web design.)


Regards,

Paul
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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread David Laakso 

Lesley Lutomski wrote:

Hi David,

Great improvement, thank you.  You wouldn't believe just how much that 
improves the usability for me.


Lesley








markup













Cool. I will have to remember that in the future. Thank you for bringing 
it to my attention. I do not have any neurological problems myself 
(other than I am a little whacked in the noggin :-) ).


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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread Lesley Lutomski 

Hi David,

Great improvement, thank you.  You wouldn't believe just how much that 
improves the usability for me.


Lesley

David Laakso wrote:

Lesley Lutomski wrote:

Hi David,



I also have a problem with the double border on the menu items, 
combined with the underlining of the links - too many lines too close 
together. I have neurological problems, which may partly account for 
my reaction here, but I asked my husband and he also finds it a bit 
"busy" and distracting.


Could I suggest removing the underline and spacing the menu items 
slightly further apart, or using a single rather than double border?  
(I  do actually like the double border.)  Also, changing the blue to 
an orange or red that would be less jarring against the brown would be 
a big improvement.




Lesley







markup















Still a  neurological problem for you now, Lesley?

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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread David Laakso 

Thierry Koblentz wrote:

Comments and suggestions on this site appreciated.
markup

css




Hi David,

Minor things: I think the h1 


Bumped. On server.


looks small and that there is not enough
padding around the text in the menu. I think more padding would make that
text more readable, and would also spread the menu across the content.
  



Some padding added. On server.



I'd use THs in the table for the company names, I'd use scope="row" and
scope="col" too.
You could also add a caption (send it off screen if you wish).
  




OK. Know from nothing about tables. Will look into.




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RE: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz 
> Comments and suggestions on this site appreciated.
> markup
> 
> css
> 

Hi David,

Minor things: I think the h1 looks small and that there is not enough
padding around the text in the menu. I think more padding would make that
text more readable, and would also spread the menu across the content.

I'd use THs in the table for the company names, I'd use scope="row" and
scope="col" too.
You could also add a caption (send it off screen if you wish).


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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread David Laakso 

Joseph Taylor wrote:

David,

 The only item I wonder about is the thick border below the navigation 
that touches the double border directly below it. I'd use one or the 
other rather than both.  That's me though. It looks like a CSS "oops" 
to me. No normal people will mind it though.



Joseph R. B. Taylor
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markup









Bugs me, too. Correction on server,

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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread Joseph Taylor 

David,

I missed the items other mentioned, but it looks fine right now.  The 
only item I wonder about is the thick border below the navigation that 
touches the double border directly below it. I'd use one or the other 
rather than both.  That's me though. It looks like a CSS "oops" to me. 
No normal people will mind it though.


If the client's happy leave it be.

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On 1/26/10 8:26 AM, David Laakso wrote:

Lesley Lutomski wrote:

Hi David,



I also have a problem with the double border on the menu items, 
combined with the underlining of the links - too many lines too close 
together. I have neurological problems, which may partly account for 
my reaction here, but I asked my husband and he also finds it a bit 
"busy" and distracting.


Could I suggest removing the underline and spacing the menu items 
slightly further apart, or using a single rather than double border?  
(I  do actually like the double border.)  Also, changing the blue to 
an orange or red that would be less jarring against the brown would 
be a big improvement.




Lesley







markup















Still a  neurological problem for you now, Lesley?

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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread designer 


- Original Message - 
From: "David Laakso" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::




Flattery will get you nowhere (corrections on server).

~d


Much better!  The menu is static and the red 'buttons' are in harmony with 
the red headings.


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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread David Laakso 

Lesley Lutomski wrote:

Hi David,



I also have a problem with the double border on the menu items, 
combined with the underlining of the links - too many lines too close 
together. I have neurological problems, which may partly account for 
my reaction here, but I asked my husband and he also finds it a bit 
"busy" and distracting.


Could I suggest removing the underline and spacing the menu items 
slightly further apart, or using a single rather than double border?  
(I  do actually like the double border.)  Also, changing the blue to 
an orange or red that would be less jarring against the brown would be 
a big improvement.




Lesley







markup















Still a  neurological problem for you now, Lesley?

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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread David Laakso 

designer wrote:

Hi David,



Comments and suggestions on this site appreciated.
markup

css


Thanks.
~d



Not a very useful comment perhaps, but I hate the colour of the 
banner, and
the bright blue of the menu is horrific.  Apart from that, when a menu 
item
is selected, the text becomes bold and the spacing changes so the menu 
jumps

a bit.  Is that acceptable to you and/or the client?

Bob





Flattery will get you nowhere (corrections on server).

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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread Lesley Lutomski 

Hi David,

Afraid I have to agree with Bob about the blue against the brown of the 
banner.


I also have a problem with the double border on the menu items, combined 
with the underlining of the links - too many lines too close together. 
I have neurological problems, which may partly account for my reaction 
here, but I asked my husband and he also finds it a bit "busy" and 
distracting.


Could I suggest removing the underline and spacing the menu items 
slightly further apart, or using a single rather than double border?  (I 
 do actually like the double border.)  Also, changing the blue to an 
orange or red that would be less jarring against the brown would be a 
big improvement.


Hope that's helpful to you.

Lesley

designer wrote:

Hi David,

- Original Message - From: "David Laakso" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:07 AM
Subject: [WSG] :: makeready ::




Comments and suggestions on this site appreciated.
markup
<http://chelseacreekstudio.com/mhr/>
css
<http://chelseacreekstudio.com/mhr/css/style.css>

Thanks.
~d



Not a very useful comment perhaps, but I hate the colour of the banner, and
the bright blue of the menu is horrific.  Apart from that, when a menu item
is selected, the text becomes bold and the spacing changes so the menu 
jumps

a bit.  Is that acceptable to you and/or the client?

Bob





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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread designer 

Hi David,

- Original Message - 
From: "David Laakso" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:07 AM
Subject: [WSG] :: makeready ::




Comments and suggestions on this site appreciated.
markup
<http://chelseacreekstudio.com/mhr/>
css
<http://chelseacreekstudio.com/mhr/css/style.css>

Thanks.
~d



Not a very useful comment perhaps, but I hate the colour of the banner, and
the bright blue of the menu is horrific.  Apart from that, when a menu item
is selected, the text becomes bold and the spacing changes so the menu jumps
a bit.  Is that acceptable to you and/or the client?

Bob





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[WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread David Laakso 

Comments and suggestions on this site appreciated.
markup

css


Thanks.
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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2009-12-24 Thread David Laakso 

Duncan Hill wrote:




The 'flare' image on the home page is much better, on the original I 
thought the burned out highlights were too intrusive and distracting.


That is good news. I think it looks better, too -- although perhaps a 
little too dark for the rest of the page...



I liked the vertical page name under the menu.  :(


Hmm. I guess you mean it was better before when there was more 
indentation of the sub-list than there is now?


Two problem areas,
1. when navigating the portfolio page, changing from "odilon redon" to 
"yar laakso", "dolphin’s back" is being displayed. All the other 
selections look correct. A simple typo in the menu structure I think.


Yikes! Good catch. I will correct it.



2. Again on the portfolio page, selecting a 'view full-page' closes 
your initial short view and gives the full picture, if you again click 
'view full-page', the full view closes but does not reinstate the 
short view, leaving an almost blank page that needs a second click to 
get back to a visible item. Might it be better to simply toggle the 
two states so that the page always has one of the two options visible.



I will change this so that one image is /always/ visible.



Duncan



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Re: [WSG] :: makeready :: (out of office)

2009-12-24 Thread Denis Bowler 
I am currently out of the office returning Monday 18th of January 2010. 
If the matter is urgent please contact Jeff Smart on 6270 6983.


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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2009-12-24 Thread Duncan Hill 


Attack the code (and make damn well sure good at it when you do so), not  
the person who wrote it.

Best,
~d


Sorry, no code attacks ...

The 'flare' image on the home page is much better, on the original I  
thought the burned out highlights were too intrusive and distracting.

I liked the vertical page name under the menu.  :(

Two problem areas,
1. when navigating the portfolio page, changing from "odilon redon" to  
"yar laakso", "dolphin’s back" is being displayed. All the other  
selections look correct. A simple typo in the menu structure I think.


2. Again on the portfolio page, selecting a 'view full-page' closes your  
initial short view and gives the full picture, if you again click 'view  
full-page', the full view closes but does not reinstate the short view,  
leaving an almost blank page that needs a second click to get back to a  
visible item. Might it be better to simply toggle the two states so that  
the page always has one of the two options visible.


Clean and elegant  :)

Best wishes

Duncan


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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2009-12-23 Thread David Laakso 

David Laakso wrote:

I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site.


Best,
~d




Attack the code (and make damn well sure good at it when you do so), not 
the person who wrote it.

Best,
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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2009-12-23 Thread David Laakso 

Tom Livingston wrote:

On this page, in Safari 4.0.4:
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/site/portfolio/07.php

The left vertical nav links can be hovered and used while mousing in
the blank space to the left of the nav text. Is this intentional?
Thought you might want to know.



  

I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site.


Best,
~d







  


Yes, I know. They are set to display block (on purpose).
Best,
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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2009-12-23 Thread Tom Livingston 
On this page, in Safari 4.0.4:
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ca/site/portfolio/07.php

The left vertical nav links can be hovered and used while mousing in
the blank space to the left of the nav text. Is this intentional?
Thought you might want to know.



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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2009-12-22 Thread David Laakso 

designer wrote:









However - there is always a 'BUT' - for my taste it's lopsided!
O.K., now tell me you spent hours making the spacing work that way 
because it's what you wanted!


Bob






Hours? Hours nothing: it took a lifetime that spacing, Bob :-) .

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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2009-12-22 Thread AGerasimchuk 
I like the elegancy of the site, but think that Navigation is slightly 
confusing.  I also wasnt' sure where I am  - Home or About?  You are 
having two links, but it's actually the same page.  Also, you put Gustav 
Klimt as your first Portfolio item, but I (that was my first impression) 
thought that you are claiming that YOU ARE Gustav Klimt (which is a 
nonsence).  That might mean that you did not emphasize enough WHAT YOUR 
SITE ACTUALLY DOES.  You are doing website disign/development - make it 
stand-out more!  It is not clear from your home -page.  So, work on 
navigation - that is my thought.


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I can see you are an artist. It looks like a website that's been designed 
by an artist.

Looking at the site in Firefox my first reaction is to want to drag it to 
the left. Somehow being right aligned it feels uncomfortable - I wonder 
why the white space on the left.

I was also a little puzzled why the title of the home page is 'about'. 
When I click the home button I go back to about with home disabled and 
vice versa. I can understand why you have done it but it seems a little 
quirky.

I also seem to be doing a lot of scrolling (the page is long rather than 
wide) and it took me a little while to understand what was happening with 
the sets.

I hope this is helpful.

2009/12/22 David Laakso 
I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site.
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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2009-12-22 Thread Christian Montoya 
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:13 PM, David Laakso
 wrote:
> I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site.
> 
>

I would prefer if "set 1" were expanded by default, and if "set 1"
through "set 3" were presented as tabs on the same line, instead of
vertically, or if they were not present and the 3 sets were displayed
as a horizontal sliding ribbon. In essence, more of a pagination view
instead of disparate vertical blocks.

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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2009-12-22 Thread designer 


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From: "David Laakso" 



I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site.




It's very nice - it's clean, the importance of graphic design/typography 
shows in the design, and it exhumes a sense of proficiency. I notice that it 
validates as HTML 5 too!


However - there is always a 'BUT' - for my taste it's lopsided! I would 
prefer it if the 'content' (by which I mean the area where there is 
something to see) was more central in the viewport - all sections except the 
'portfolio' are too far to the right. The portfolio has more text on the 
left and this balances it up a bit.  This lopsided look is particularly 
noticeable when one increases the font size 4+ times.


Just my 2p's worth. . .

O.K., now tell me you spent hours making the spacing work that way because 
it's what you wanted!


Bob 






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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2009-12-22 Thread David Laakso 

Chris Price wrote:



Looking at the site in Firefox my first reaction is to want to drag it 
to the left. Somehow being right aligned it feels uncomfortable - I 
wonder why the white space on the left.







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So drag it to a 640 window?

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Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2009-12-22 Thread Chris Price 
I can see you are an artist. It looks like a website that's been designed by
an artist.

Looking at the site in Firefox my first reaction is to want to drag it to
the left. Somehow being right aligned it feels uncomfortable - I wonder why
the white space on the left.

I was also a little puzzled why the title of the home page is 'about'. When
I click the home button I go back to about with home disabled and vice
versa. I can understand why you have done it but it seems a little quirky.

I also seem to be doing a lot of scrolling (the page is long rather than
wide) and it took me a little while to understand what was happening with
the sets.

I hope this is helpful.

2009/12/22 David Laakso 

> I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site.
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[WSG] :: makeready ::

2009-12-22 Thread David Laakso 

I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site.


Best,
~d


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