Just wanted to clarify, I didn't say that, I was arguing a completely
different point ;).
Stephen
On 3 Feb 2006, at 21:59, Joshua Street wrote:
Yes, but can you use an anchor fragment to link to a point in an
Acrobat document?
The other thing is why would we even bother with that when we
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 01:14 pm, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Marilyn Langfeld wrote:
And Adobe is adding accessibility
aids (depends on the designer to implement them though).
Worth mentioning though that the accessibility enhancements (like the
way that a screenreader can access the content of a
I think you're mistaking your experiences of users for all users. I
don't know anyone who uses JAWS, doesn't mean that people don't tho.
I (usually) like the way that PDF files tend to open in the browser
window. Many people I know also are used to this and it doesn't
bother them. You
At 10:47 PM 3/02/2006, Stephen Stagg wrote:
PDF content rarely has the
_behaviour_ of a web page
(rich hyperlink structures/inbound/outbound links,
etc)
PDF's can and do contain hyperlinks and bookmarks, whether made in
Acrobat or dynamically generated via PHP et al...
Best Regards
Ray Cauchi
At 10:47 PM 3/02/2006, Stephen Stagg wrote:
PDF content rarely has the
_behaviour_ of a web page
(rich hyperlink structures/inbound/outbound links,
etc)
PDF's can and do contain hyperlinks and bookmarks, whether made in
Acrobat or dynamically generated via PHP et al...
Best Regards
Ray Cauchi
Stephen Stagg wrote:
I (usually) like the way that PDF files tend to open in the browser
window. Many people I know also are used to this and it doesn't
bother them. You say that users expect the way to return to web
content . A pdf online IS web content, you may argue that what you
Yes, but can you use an anchor fragment to link to a point in an
Acrobat document?
The other thing is why would we even bother with that when we have
hypertext? On one site I did recently, the client wanted a PDF
brochure with _identical_ information to what was in hypertext
included. The PDF
This is probvably off topic for this list so please reply to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I hav a nine page PDF file loaded into Acrobat
7.0. And when I try File /Save as text the text file is not good. The PDF
file is an article to be posted on a web site. What is the best web standard
approach and
Angus at InfoForce Services wrote:
This is probvably off topic for this list so please reply to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I hav a nine page PDF file loaded into
Acrobat 7.0. And when I try File /Save as text the text file is not
good.
Define not good.
If it's the text is all over the place, this
Angus at InfoForce Services ink wired:
The PDF file is an article to be posted on
a web site. What is the best web standard
approach and instructions
You can embed the PDF with code like this:
[object
classid=clsid:CA8A9780-280D-11CF-A24D-44455354
width=???
height=???
Conyers, Dwayne, Mr [C] wrote:
You can embed the PDF with code like this:
Eek...it's already bad enough when a PDF opens in the browser-based
viewer, rather than the full Acrobat application. I'd say, as it's not a
web native format, that the best strategy would be to just link to the
PDF
Another option is to copy the text out of the PDF and stick it on the
page. I personally hate PDF's on sites (annoying to read). Especially
multi-page versions. Just think how that text would help your page rank
for that page if it wasn't a PDF...just a thought!
Joseph R. B. Taylor
Sites
On 2 Feb 2006, at 20:57, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
(and ideally force a download via appropriate MIME settings on the
server to send it as an octet stream).
Doing so would override the local browser's setting. Is this 'a good
thing'? I would have thought that trying to force the browser
Yes, it's a good thing. PDF's aren't web pages. This is the
distinction between a web site and a web application: applications are
'expected' to have 'application-like' behaviour (such as new windows,
etc.). Also, PDF content rarely has the _behaviour_ of a web page
(rich hyperlink
Joshua Street wrote:
Also I wasn't aware of way to override browser object settings for PDF
files easily -- by all means feel free to correct me, but I doubt very
much users do this by 'preference' one way or another.
It's something that need to be set in Acrobat's preferences (under the
Ah, righto. Linux user here, apologies... it's obviously simpler on
other desktop systems ;-)
On 2/3/06, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joshua Street wrote:
Also I wasn't aware of way to override browser object settings for PDF
files easily -- by all means feel free to correct
I'm going to stick my neck out here folks...
PDF presentation on the web is getting better. Example: http://
www.bamagazine.com/?Click=40472 I tried to download one of the pdfs
(in Safari 2.0.3) and it opened instead. I actually preferred reading
it in Safari to opening Acrobat and reading
My biggest concern is PDF's lack of hypertext structure. At present,
it can do outbound links, it can even do web forms, but there's no way
to link to an anchor within a document. Hence, to address it as though
it were just another webpage is, to me, detaching hypertext from the
web. HTML =
Marilyn Langfeld wrote:
And Adobe is adding accessibility
aids (depends on the designer to implement them though).
Worth mentioning though that the accessibility enhancements (like the
way that a screenreader can access the content of a PDF in a sensible
manner) only apply to the standalone
What is the best practice for .pdf files?
The University of Minnesota has an accessibility standard for PDFs that
I try to follow.
For PDF documents that cannot be converted to speech output that is
readable by assistive technologies, and other PDF documents that cannot
be converted to speech
No need to get tetchy non-windows ppl :-)
A 100% acessible alternative link to send customers to is :
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
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