Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-02-02 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
> What kind of mobile phone does the average person use? <…> > As for that figure, I'm not sure that includes browsers that don't > actually support javascript at all! <…> The right question to ask would be "what kind of mobile phone does the average person use to browse the web?". My point is, th

RE: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread MichaelMD
On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 13:07 +, James Leslie wrote: > Another point to note is that many mobile phones have JavaScript enabled > so this figure may increase with the expected rise in mobile popularity. > > *** Sorry - that should have said disabled not enabled ** not just many ... actually I w

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread James Milligan
Was about to say! Very true, but the iPhone is proving a popular combination, especially with unlimited data on contract, and JS is turned on by default. There is an option to turn it off, but I doubt many would do so. PS I'm using an iPhone all the time now, typing this message one one!

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
> Another point to note is that many mobile phones have JavaScript enabled > so this figure may increase with the expected rise in mobile popularity. > *** Sorry - that should have said disabled not enabled ** I actually see mobile browsing rising in popularity when browsers on gadgets are full ca

RE: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread James Leslie
Another point to note is that many mobile phones have JavaScript enabled so this figure may increase with the expected rise in mobile popularity. *** Sorry - that should have said disabled not enabled ** *** List Guidelines: ht

RE: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread James Leslie
I recently got my hands on some statistics for a major UK bank who found that 2.7% of their customers have JavaScript disabled. I think this may be a slightly more realistic figure than the techy W3C site. Another point to note is that many mobile phones have JavaScript enabled so this figure may

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote: > Exactly, only this can mean the opposite of what you state: > more tech savy users know how to turn Javascript off, unlike > the general public. > One other thing to bear in mind is that we are mostly thinking of users as being sat at

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread Blake
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Dave Hall wrote: > I would suggest that w3schools attracts a "more switched on user" than > say Live Search, YouTube or myspace/facebook/insert social network here. > Stats from those types of sites are what I would be more interested in > seeing. Good luck to th

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
> IMO stats from tech sites are not very representative of the > general intarwebs user base. Exactly, only this can mean the opposite of what you state: more tech savy users know how to turn Javascript off, unlike the general public. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *

RE: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread Dave Hall
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 23:48 -0500, Rick Faircloth wrote: > According to statistics supplied by w3schools.com, as of Jan 08 > approximately 95% of users had JS enabled. > > Check out http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp > and look towards the middle of the page for the stats. Just

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Paul Hudson wrote: Doesn't ie6's highest security setting turn js off? Yes, and all that goes with it - like IE-expressions. I haven't looked at ie7 but would assume similar. IE7 same as IE6. From the look of it - brief testing - IE8b2 also turns off script-support in high security mode.

RE: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Rick Faircloth
According to statistics supplied by w3schools.com, as of Jan 08 approximately 95% of users had JS enabled. Check out http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp and look towards the middle of the page for the stats. Rick > -Original Message- > From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [

RE: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Paul Hudson
Doesn't ie6's highest security setting turn js off? I haven't looked at ie7 but would assume similar. Regards Paul -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Simon Pascal Klein Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2009 2:59 PM To: Jessic