On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 15:42:58 +0800, Bert Doorn wrote:
> Should do:
> From http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/index/attributes.html:
> Title:
>All elements but BASE, BASEFONT, HEAD, HTML, META, PARAM, SCRIPT, TITLE
Fair enough - I had an idea that title didn't apply to img, but if
thats the case then
On 9 dec 2004, at 08.23, Lea de Groot wrote:
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 07:20:56 +1100, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
wrote:
It's good practise to have the title attribute also on images (in
addition
to the ALT), as some browsers won't display the ALT Text as a tooltip.
Does that validate? I didn't th
G'day
>> It's good practise to have the title attribute also on images (in
>> addition to the ALT), as some browsers won't display the ALT Text as a
>> tooltip.
> Does that validate? I didn't think title was a valid attribute for the img
tag?
Should do:
>From http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/inde
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 07:20:56 +1100, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
wrote:
> It's good practise to have the title attribute also on images (in addition
> to the ALT), as some browsers won't display the ALT Text as a tooltip.
Does that validate? I didn't think title was a valid attribute for the
ay the alt text.
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In response to Derek Featherstone,
My (hopefully useful) contribution picks up on something
> Derek Featherstone wrote:
> -
> What is critical and what is "extra" is determined by context. In general,
> the lower tech the approach, the more accessible it is. If it is in the
> content, everyone gets what they need, instead of having to rely on a
> tooltip which may
Sorry, didn't read complete post
Graham
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Can you place the acronym tag within an ALT or
day, 9 December 2004 2:19 PM
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> how about using a space between letters instead of a 'stop'. eg A M P ?
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> lisa
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how about using a space between letters instead of a 'stop'. eg A M P ?
lisa
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how about using a space between letters instead of a 'stop'. eg A M P ?
lisa
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>From my observations the inclus
Kirkwood | MOTIVE
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Does anyone have a (ideally substantiated) approach to use us of the
fullstop/period in alt tags and/or title tags?
e.g. alt="My goldfish" title="On holiday in Spain",
Andy Kirkwood | MOTIVE wrote:
Does anyone have a (ideally substantiated) approach to use us of the
fullstop/period in alt tags and/or title tags?
e.g. alt="My goldfish" title="On holiday in Spain", v.s
alt="My goldfish." title="On holiday in Spain."
Seem to recall mention of screen-readers requir
In response to Derek Featherstone,
My (hopefully useful) contribution picks up on something I learnt in my
brief flirtation with the advertising industry.
A caption should not restate what is in the image. The two should be
complementary.
So, let's say the image is of a person and a cat sitting
Does anyone have a (ideally substantiated) approach to use us of the
fullstop/period in alt tags and/or title tags?
e.g. alt="My goldfish" title="On holiday in Spain", v.s
alt="My goldfish." title="On holiday in Spain."
Seem to recall mention of screen-readers requiring the punctuation in
the sa
On Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:14 PM, Andreas Boehmer wrote:
> "Mark and his cat sitting happily by the sea" gives me
> the information I want. It explains the image quite well and
> even though I can see the image straight infront of me it is
> still useful for me to know the title. It tells me
hello, does somebody hear me??
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Andreas Boehmer wrote:
We are talking about a picture of a man and his cat. As a u
Andreas Boehmer wrote:
We are talking about a picture of a man and his cat. As a user I might
want to know what exactly is on this picture.
[...]
I'd be interested to see what people would do with an image of Yves
Klein "Monochrome Blue":
http://www.artzine-journal.com/3rd_Issue/Source/arabsten.ht
>
> The title is there to provide supplementary/additional information,
> over and above what the image expresses.
>
> Whether there is a link around the image or not has no bearing on
> this. alt is required on images and title is optional but often
> useful. A title on the link should provide
Putting on my semantic nit picker hat.
http://mark.gruden.com/WE04/WSGTalk-slide-12.htm
http://mark.gruden.com/WE04/WSGTalk-slide-13.htm
alt and title are different. alt is there to express the meaning of
the image when the image is NOT visible, when the image is visible alt
is completely red
>
> On 8 dec 2004, at 21.20, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
> >>
> >
> > It's good practise to have the title attribute also on images (in
> > addition
> > to the ALT), as some browsers won't display the ALT Text as a tooltip.
>
> alt = alternative text, used as a replacement _when
rote:
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> Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
> > It's good practise to have
On 8 dec 2004, at 21.20, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
It's good practise to have the title attribute also on images (in
addition
to the ALT), as some browsers won't display the ALT Text as a tooltip.
alt = alternative text, used as a replacement _when the image can't be
displayed_.
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
It's good practise to have the title attribute also on images (in addition
to the ALT), as some browsers won't display the ALT Text as a tooltip.
Well, ALT is by definition an ALTernate. The fact that all browsers in
the past
chose to also show ALT as a too
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> On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:06:52 +1100, Brett Walsh wrote:
> > I am using the strict
alt attribute is for some elements (images, buttons), that might not be
fully rendered by browsers. should be visible only when element itself is
not shown.
title attribute is for almost every element in html. it is supposed to
give additional information. optionally visible, usually as a
On 8 Dec 2004, at 12:06, Brett Walsh wrote:
I keep forgetting and need some clarification on the use of alt and
title
and which is most appropriate.
I am using the strict dtd so as far as I understand I'm meant to use
alt for links and title for images. Or is it the other way around? Or
both?
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On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:06:52 +1100, Brett Walsh wrote:
> I am using the strict dtd so as far as I understand I'm meant to use alt
for
> links and title for images. Or is it the other way arou
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:06:52 +1100, Brett Walsh wrote:
> I am using the strict dtd so as far as I understand I'm meant to use alt for
> links and title for images. Or is it the other way around? Or both?
The other way around - the alt attribute goes on the img tag, to
provide some information when
Title: Message
Personally, I tend towards using title for links to give surfers an idea
where the link is taking them. I use both on images. I use the web
developer extension for Firefox on my own site at the moment for highlighting
any links which I have neglected to add a title attribute
Am Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:06:52 +1100 schrieb Brett Walsh
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Hey everyone.
I keep forgetting and need some clarification on the use of alt and title
and which is most appropriate.
I am using the strict dtd so as far as I understand I'm meant to use alt
for
links and title for ima
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