RE: [WSG] New CMS / Framework

I've looked at Farcry and like lots of my colleagues, I've decided it's too far-removed from coldfusion to use. Unless you're a spectra-head, the whole dictionary of terminology is different and very arcane, I find. I looked at it very closely (I've got a lot at stake and some practical backgrou

RE: [WSG] New CMS / Framework

Hi Justin You might want to try the following sites: http://www.opensourcecms.com/ This site has open source CMS's that are php/mysql based. They have actually set up and installed CMS's on their server and allow you to go and use their system. Since you will be making a choice of what CMS your

Re: [WSG] New CMS / Framework

On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, at 05:21 PM, Mark Stanton wrote: That's a very big call - best of luck to you. But before you jump in can I suggest you look at http://farcry.daemon.com.au. Ok its Coldfusion based & not PHP, but CF will cost you a few thousand dollars & that is a tiny amount to

RE: [WSG] New CMS / Framework

http://demo.daemon.com.au/ I do understand where both you & Mike are coming from, I guess I just wonder how often a particular problem needs to be solved... Having said that, it looks like Mike has had a lot more experience with it than I have. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Tech

Re: [WSG] Image Gallery alternative

Hi Robert, Your option looks great! The funny thing is that when you get down to fine details of semantics, you can argue about a range of different solutions to any problem - divs, dl's and ul's could all be used successfully in creating image galleries. Bottom line - we should all be striving t

Re: [WSG] New CMS / Framework

Hi Ralph, http://www.opensourcecms.com/ This site has open source CMS's that are php/mysql based. They have actually set up and installed CMS's on their server and allow you to go and use their system. I guess I should have also specified that I know about opensourcecms.com, and have reviewe

Re: [WSG] New CMS / Framework

Might be a bit OT, but here is my 2 cents worth. I've likewise spent years working with/on CMS's, one big problem is in fact, the different server platforms the CMS has to cater for. Its easy to say "you can install on IIS or Apache" and you mostly can, but each have their own particular issues

Re: [WSG] New CMS / Framework

While ideally I would address nearly every point in Mike's email, it would benefit probably few of the members on this list and have little effect on his opinion of Daemon. Most importantly and likely, it would serve as a catalyst for an extended debate of off-topic technologies. For anyone int

[WSG] RE: New CMS / Framework

Justin, Building a comprehensive CMS API is a deceptively difficult task. There are so many open source frameworks, let alone commercial ones, to suit every language preference -- I definitely recommend against starting from scratch unless your requirements are very modest. Building something for

Re: [WSG] RE: New CMS / Framework

On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, at 09:05 PM, Geoff Bowers wrote: Building a comprehensive CMS API is a deceptively difficult task. There are so many open source frameworks, let alone commercial ones, to suit every language preference -- I definitely recommend against starting from scratch unles

RE: [WSG] New CMS / Framework

I dont know if any of the Daemon guys are on this list (maybe Ben Bishop is) to reply to this, but while I am sure Mike has done the homework he needs I was concerned about a couple of the statements and thought I would comment/clarify.. I am not sure what is meant by "too far-removed from co

Re: [WSG] CSS file size question

On 27 Jan 2004, at 22:40, Justin French wrote: all the template declarations etc.)? I think you should have your base CSS file (things common to all pages), and then link a separate file for any page-specific requirements. So, you're suggesting, as you state the base file, then, a CSS file per

[WSG] CMS Discussion

Hi folks, The "[WSG] New CMS / Framework" is now getting off-topic. I was willing for it to go on as it had a good chance of turning back to being about Web Standards. E.g. methodologies for making sure that user entered content (be it plain text or widget written HTML) is filtered appropriately

Re: [WSG] Floats of the Fluid and Fixed kind

Chris Blown wrote: Thanks Tonico Looks great. Oh, thanks. I was not involved in the graphic design process ;) Tonico -- Tonico Strasser ?:-) http://Tonico.FreeZope.org Contact_Tonico at Yahoo dot de Check out http://www.WebProducer.at * The di

[WSG] Calendar Day Highlighting

Hi all, I throw together a simple "calendar" that highlights each day on :hover, hope you find it intresting (given the tight code): http://standardice.com/experimental/calendarhighlighting.html cheers, /Anton PS. I was inspired by the Flash calendar at http://www.vcc.com.my/calendar/index2.cf

RE: [WSG] New CMS / Framework

I don't want to continue this off-topic discussion, because it'll just turn one of the best technical lists I've ever been a part of. There are lots of responses to my post that I feel like I want to follow up, but it's off topic. I just want to make a couple of comments to clarify what I sa

Re: [WSG] Calendar Day Highlighting

Cool! Be good to see a version of the entire calendar. :) Follows on from your great mimicking magazines demo: http://standardice.com/experimental/magazines.html Russ > > Hi all, I throw together a simple "calendar" that highlights each day > on :hover, hope you find it intresting (given the ti

RE: [WSG] Calendar Day Highlighting

An idea - Given the recent discussion on definition list, maybe you could build it with those as an alternative? Nice work. Regards, David McDonald Web Designer http://www.davidmcdonald.org Southbank, Melbourne Australia Mobile: 0403 332 140 ICQ: 11814164 -Original Message- From: A

Re: [WSG] CSS file size question

On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, at 10:53 PM, Martin Chapman wrote: So, you're suggesting, as you state the base file, then, a CSS file per page that requires one? Actually, one per section, or one per content-type... one per page might be overkill in the case of news articles (which typically w

RE: [WSG] Calendar Day Highlighting

Given the recent discussion on definition list, maybe you could build it with those as an alternative? Well, thanks for the suggestion but as I know what happens with definition lists in e.g. Google (try search for "define: css" and you'll see), I wouldn't want my calendar being indexed as "Def

Re: [WSG] Calendar Day Highlighting

Anton This is pretty good. You may also be interested in the Mozilla Calendar - available as an extension to most Gecko browsers - http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/ , written in XUL (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/xul/joy-of-xul.html). Cheers James Anton Andreasson wrote: Given the r

[WSG] Real world use of standards

I have a question for you all, given that quite a few of you work for large, CMS-type companies and the collective level of experience here is seemingly very large: How many of you have experienced working for companies/clients which actively embrace the standards and protocols/working methods we

[WSG] Standards in the Real World

Nick Bradbury (Top Style, Feed Demon) writes on standards compliance: http://nick.typepad.com/blog/2004/01/web_standards_p.html -- Glenn "Religion and science are opposed, but only in the same sense as that in which my thumb and forefinger are opposed - and between the two, one can grasp everythi

Re: [WSG] Real world use of standards

Clients need to be informed of the benefits of standards and most will see the value right away. However compromises on design and functionality can offset the benefits quite quickly. The old saying "The customers always right" seems to fit here. Government departments are _mostly_ aware of stand

Re: [WSG] Real world use of standards

On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 11:06 AM, Bradley Wright wrote: I have a question for you all, given that quite a few of you work for large, CMS-type companies and the collective level of experience here is seemingly very large: How many of you have experienced working for companies/clients

Re: [WSG] Real world use of standards

Bradley, First of all, this is not off-topic at all. In fact, I reckon it's the most important issue facing developers/designers on this list. Here are some comments based on Peter's and my experience.. Take or leave as you wish. :) CLIENTS We always sit down with our clients and discuss (amongs

[WSG] printer speific pages

Can I ask to be pointed to the best tutorial for making printer specific pages on CSS sites? Thanks Peter -- peter gifford universal head design that works visit 7/43 bridge road stanmore nsw 2048 australia call(+612) 9517 1466 fax (+612) 9565 4747 email [EMAIL PROTEC

[WSG] printer specific pages

Can I ask to be pointed to the best tutorial for making printer specific pages on CSS sites? Thanks Peter -- peter gifford universal head design that works visit 7/43 bridge road stanmore nsw 2048 australia call(+612) 9517 1466 fax (+612) 9565 4747 email [EMAIL PROTEC

RE: [WSG] printer specific pages

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/goingtoprint/ Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://websta

Re: [WSG] printer specific pages

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/goingtoprint/ >From the god of CSS himself - Eric :) > > Can I ask to be pointed to the best tutorial for making printer > specific pages on CSS sites? > Thanks > Peter * The discussion list for http://webst

Re: [WSG] Definition lists -- mid-weekly challenge

Sent this message before 10am today, and it seems to have disappeared. Will try again. This and following message. Cameron, Can't be bothered trying it Boy, that sure puts this newbie upstart in his place. :) but you could float the image left, leave the other elements non-floated, block, with

Re: [WSG] Calendar Day Highlighting

Anton, Hi all, I throw together a simple "calendar" that highlights each day on :hover, hope you find it intresting (given the tight code): http://standardice.com/experimental/calendarhighlighting.html Works beautifully in Safari and Mozilla on the Mac. Amazingly lean code. Splits apart at day 1

Re: [WSG] printer speific pages

Peter, The best article I have found is at A List Apart http://www.alistapart.com/articles/goingtoprint/ Being written by the CSSS Guru Eric Meyer, you know it is going to be good. Regards Gino --- Universal Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can I ask to be pointed to the best tutorial fo

Re: [WSG] Definition lists -- mid-weekly challenge

Looks like you have cracked your version of the DL - looks fine on Safari. Yes, this is the right place to ask this sort of question. It is closely tied to semantic use of elements and css etc (which is part of web standards) - even if only for experimenting... If you mean is the WSG "superior to

[WSG] Mail problem this morning and CMS list

Yeah, sorry folks, had a server issue this morning so if you think a message didn't get through, please check the archive and send it again if it isn't there. http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/archive.cfm I have 5 people for the CMS list and I assume that some replies to this request may have g

RE: [WSG] Real world use of standards

> How many of you have experienced working for companies/clients which > actively embrace the standards and protocols/working methods we > discuss here > every day? It seems to me that very often dealing with clients and client > needs makes using standards to the fullest an impractical thing at be

RE: [WSG] Real world use of standards

My situation is as follows: Here at BHP Billiton, I am part of the Global Intranet Team. I wrote the CSS/XHTML for their Global Intranet and then wrote standards compliant templates for other people within the business to use to build their own intranets. We were able to adopt W3C standards and