Re: [WSG] CSS and IE / Mac

2004-02-10 Thread LC 55
Hi Lucian. Your tabs are nestled (almost) one on top of the other, vertically in Opera 7. This problem appeared before on this forum and should find the answer on a recent post by Hugh Todd. Good luck, JG --- Lucian Teo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been very impressed with the camaraderie

Re: [WSG] CSS and IE / Mac

2004-02-10 Thread LC 55
BTW, I should have mentioned, the uppermost tab showing fully is the 'Contact' tab. If you need a .gif of what I mean, please let me know? Regards, JG --- Lucian Teo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been very impressed with the camaraderie exhibited on this list, even for OT posts. I just

RE: [WSG] Tenth AIMIA Awards announced

2004-02-10 Thread Mark Stanton
Wow - the Grammies of web design. One day these awards might pay attention to what is actually going on in the web medium not treat sites as high bandwidth, interactive TV ads. There are a couple of good ones in there, a couple of your usual flash eye-candy sites and a whole bunch of

RE: [WSG] Tenth AIMIA Awards announced

2004-02-10 Thread Taco Fleur
If so what can be done about it? I'm really interested in some ideas. With all the professionals on this list, surely there must be some people who are willing to devote time to setting up a *real* awards program? Hell, I know I'd be willing to help, I know I'm no CSS guru (yet), but I sure

Re: [WSG] Tenth AIMIA Awards announced

2004-02-10 Thread Ben Bishop
If you remember Cameron (bloo man) posting something recently about starting a standards awards, or even if you dont: http://www.webstandardsawards.com/ -Ben http://www.mxdu.com/ Mark Stanton wrote: Ok that was my initial reaction on seeing the awards site - I didn't send the email at 4pm

Re: [WSG] Tenth AIMIA Awards announced

2004-02-10 Thread russ weakley
Well done to Johan, Cameron and Andy for getting it up and running! Andy has written more here: http://www.andybudd.com/blog/archives/000154.html Russ If you remember Cameron (bloo man) posting something recently about starting a standards awards, or even if you dont:

RE: [WSG] Tenth AIMIA Awards announced

2004-02-10 Thread Mark Stanton
If so what can be done about it? I'm really interested in some ideas. WSG Awards? :) I've really got my doubts about whether a WSG awards would be a solution to this particular problem - lack of acknowledgement of web standards in mainstream awards. I'm not saying WSG awards is a bad idea

Re: [WSG] Tenth AIMIA Awards announced

2004-02-10 Thread Lindsay Evans
Lindsay Evans wrote: WSG Awards? :) Sheesh, didn't notice that TB was still downloading a bunch of emails before I replied :| The Web Standards Awards looks pretty interesting, gives me more incentive to get my redesign finished :) -- Lindsay Evans

RE: [WSG] Tenth AIMIA Awards announced

2004-02-10 Thread Devlin Peter W
Mark wrote: creating an additional award is not going to make the main award events stand up and go duh, we've been coming at this from the wrong angle. I also feel that hall of shame type stuff is not a great solution either - I'm seriously wondering what the right approach would be - I really

RE: [WSG] Tenth AIMIA Awards announced

2004-02-10 Thread David McDonald
Mark, Yes, I am as disappointed as you are about this. I received the email from AIMIA and felt exactly the same. What's more, it would cost my company $500 a year to join AIMIA. I found that out after having to give them my private details first, then I was told what the prices were to join.

RE: [WSG] Tenth AIMIA Awards announced

2004-02-10 Thread Peter Firminger
Stick with it David. Our time will come. The benefits of going through the (hard) process of getting your standards codebank together far outweigh the pain. Once you have it, you start with a base codeset and then, creating a new site is a much easier process. Whether you pass the savings on to

Re: [WSG] FireFox - OT.. Sorry - reply off list

2004-02-10 Thread Frank
Hey Chris, Not sure if you've been able to get it working yet... But on the FireFox installation notes, it says that you should turn off Extensions (if you had any) before installing the new version: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/#install Hope that helps.

Re: [WSG] FireFox - OT.. Sorry - reply off list

2004-02-10 Thread Chris Stratford
Frank wrote: Hey Chris, Not sure if you've been able to get it working yet... But on the FireFox installation notes, it says that you should turn off Extensions (if you had any) before installing the new version: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/#install Hope that helps.

Re: [WSG] Tenth AIMIA Awards announced

2004-02-10 Thread Andy Budd
On 10 Feb 2004, at 11:03, russ weakley wrote: Well done to Johan, Cameron and Andy for getting it up and running! Andy has written more here: http://www.andybudd.com/blog/archives/000154.html No Worries. Johan deserves most of the credit. All I did was do the MT instillation. Andy Budd

[WSG] W3C Recommendations RDF OWL

2004-02-10 Thread Chris Blown
-grammar-20040210/ Regards Chris Blown * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *

[WSG] Problem Validating CSS

2004-02-10 Thread Chris Stratford
I have an interesting problem here... i try and validate the CSS of my XHTML website... and the CSS page says i must validate my XHTML first... The problem is that the XHTML is actually 100% Valid. It has a problem with the '' symbol?? What is causing this problem? I mean - why doesn't the

RE: [WSG] Problem Validating CSS

2004-02-10 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Chris, You need to escape any with amp;(even in URL query strings). Links to the relevant files/validator results would help so we could see the code. P From: Chris Stratford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 1:01 PMTo: Web Standards

RE: [WSG] Problem Validating CSS

2004-02-10 Thread Peter Firminger
The other suggestion is to validate the CSS file(s) separately at http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator-uri.htmlrather than parsing the xhtml for the linked files. P I have an interesting problem here...i try and validate the CSS of my XHTML website...and the CSS page says i

[WSG] Help i broke it all!

2004-02-10 Thread roger
Okay here is where the site is in Dev: www.desertstandard.net/yv/ The problem is that in WIN IE6 i get the background image, the upper right hand image and the nav bar to appear, but nothing else shows up! I check the source and everything is there, its just not showing up. In Safari 1.0 I

RE: [WSG] Problem Validating CSS

2004-02-10 Thread Peter Firminger
It's good practice to do it for (amp;) and (quot;) in the text all the time (HTML or XHTML). Also be aware of em-dashes, en-dashes, epsilons (...) and the curly varieties of and ' (which I hate and always strip back to the plain text version). If it's your own blog software, make sure to

RE: [WSG] Problem Validating CSS

2004-02-10 Thread Taco Fleur
not wanting to add to your OT, but you will find that #htmlEditFormat(string)# works better for most cases ;-)) Taco Fleur 07 3535 5072 Blog: http://www.tacofleur.com/index/blog/ Methodology: http://www.tacofleur.com/index/methodology/ Tell me and I will forget Show me and I will remember Teach

Re: [WSG] Problem Validating CSS

2004-02-10 Thread James Ellis
Peter Firminger wrote: Sorry, I don't do PHP. Someone else may have a PHP solution for you. P I think I did a pretty long post a while back on this subject - probably good to search for it in the archive. Anyway, the PHP way to do the CF in Peter's example is: $newString =

Re: [WSG] Problem Validating CSS

2004-02-10 Thread Universal Head
I beg of you, don't discard the 'curly varieties' - they are the typographical correct apostrophes. The non-curly versions are an ugly pox on mankind and should only be used to delineate feet and inches. Peter On 11/02/2004, at 2:30 PM, Peter Firminger wrote: Also be aware of em-dashes,

Re: [WSG] Problem Validating CSS

2004-02-10 Thread Chris Stratford
Thats great thanks! :) There are a whole bunch of PHP tags available to use... Thanks for that tho :) Your advice has helped me a lot :D cheers Pete! Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://www.neester.com Peter Firminger wrote: It's good practice to do it for (amp;) and " (quot;)

Re: [WSG] label for multiple elements

2004-02-10 Thread James Ellis
Taco You probably want to wrap the input withing the label, although it's not required: " The LABEL element associates a label with a form control. By associating labels with form controls, authors give important hints to users of speech browsers while also allowing visual browsers to

Re: [WSG] Problem Validating CSS

2004-02-10 Thread Justin French
On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 02:30 PM, Peter Firminger wrote: Also be aware of em-dashes, en-dashes, epsilons (...) and the curly varieties of and ' (which I hate and always strip back to the plain text version). I've found that the entities mdash; and ndash; don't work in older

Re: [WSG] label for multiple elements

2004-02-10 Thread James Ellis
Aahh. good stuff. I misread my own quote from WDG. :-! "the FOR attribute must match the value of the associated form control's ID attribute" Now I wonder what happens with xhtml where the name attribute is not allowed. I suppose doing id="car[0]", id="car[1]" etc etc may work... then add

RE: [WSG] Problem Validating CSS

2004-02-10 Thread Peter Firminger
I've found that the entities mdash; and ndash; don't work in older browsers (like NN4), so best use the numeric entities: em-dash = #8212; en-dash = #8211; I agree entirely Justin. Sorry I didn't point that out. elispes (not epsilons) = #8230; Oops,

Re: [WSG] Problem Validating CSS

2004-02-10 Thread Universal Head
Naw, I can live with the three dot thing ;) P But I'd rather stick with 3 dots (...) as I have seen this one break badly in a search result or text browser or something, can't remember where now. May just be a stubborn bad habit. Sorry if that worries Peter (UH) as well. x-tad-bigger

Re: [WSG] horizontal nav bar nightmare

2004-02-10 Thread Paul Ross
Roger, I am getting a 404 page not found with that URL. Regards PAUL ROSS SkyRocket Design Co Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here is the site: www.desertstandard.net/YV/ - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/

RE: [WSG] horizontal nav bar nightmare

2004-02-10 Thread roger
ooops sorry, www.desertstandard.net/yv/ Original Message Subject: Re: [WSG] horizontal nav bar nightmare From: Paul Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, February 10, 2004 10:50 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roger, I am getting a 404 page not found with that URL. Regards

[WSG] Font weight weirdness in Safari 1.2?

2004-02-10 Thread Hugh Todd
Hey, this is sort of an OT post, but affects my CSS development, so... I'm testing my pages as I go along (coding in BBEdit). But I'm finding that in a sequential series of DIVs, or dls, I'm getting a sort of cumulative weight gain in my fonts, whether they're normal or bold weight. Doesn't