[WSG] Zero margin - just sharing

2005-01-14 Thread Jacobus van Niekerk
Hi all, I know a lot of people use this: * { margin:0; padding:0; } To help reduce code and eliminate lots of those strange default margins issues. Don't think this has been mentioned anywhere yet, but one issue I found with this, was that within dropdowns the downarrow GUI,

Re: [WSG] Zero margin - just sharing

2005-01-14 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I know a lot of people use this: * { margin:0; padding:0; } issue I found with this, was that within dropdowns the downarrow GUI, covers some of the text on the right. That's why I never reset margins/padding for all elements, and just set them (both!) where it matters (body/h1/ul/li).

Re: [WSG] Zero margin - just sharing

2005-01-14 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
Jacobus van Niekerk wrote: Hi all, I know a lot of people use this: * { margin:0; padding:0; } To help reduce code and eliminate lots of those strange default margins issues. Don't think this has been mentioned anywhere yet, but one issue I found with this, was that within dropdowns the

Re: [WSG] Another Zen Garden Entry

2005-01-14 Thread Anthony Timberlake
I like it. It is nice, but I don't really like the colors. Green like that really just dosen't appeal to me. On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:53:12 +1100, Jixor - Stephen I [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Martin wrote: Beautiful concept... I just would like to see the main column expand to the

Re: [WSG] Another Zen Garden Entry

2005-01-14 Thread Charles Martin
Jixor - Stephen I wrote: It just wouldn't look as nice if it was wider, its a standard characteristic of the zen designs that they are very narrow. However I think in the case of the garden that is fine because its about showing off css, not usability. You're right. :) Guess all the wasted

Re: [WSG] Another Zen Garden Entry

2005-01-14 Thread JohnyB
Just a personal preference, but it is awesome looking. Not only your personal preference... As a showcase of some key features of CSS technology it's OK even if it's not so usable, not em-sized etc. Actually I think the colors are great, I love this combination of this tint of green with that

Re: [WSG] Another Zen Garden Entry

2005-01-14 Thread David Laakso
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:34:18 -0600, Mani Sheriar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Take a gander at it here: http://www.manisheriar.com/zengarden2/ Mani Sheriar Mani, On a lighter note: I suppose if you were really twisted, and wanted to freak 'em out, you could make it ugly as sin, readable

Re: [WSG] Another Zen Garden Entry

2005-01-14 Thread Mani Sheriar
Thanks, Charles! Just to put in my two cents about the “wasted space” issue … In general, I actually prefer fixed layouts to fluid. I have a wide monitor and when divs take up all the available space on it they are often unwieldy to read, not to mention less attractive. The exception, I guess,

Re: [WSG] Another Zen Garden Entry

2005-01-14 Thread JohnyB
we arent designing for 600 * 480 anymore! Well, maybe we'll begin again shortly - new PDAs are comming to the market with VGA (480x640) resolution... :P -- Jan Brasna :: alphanumeric.cz | webcore.cz | designlab.cz | janbrasna.com Stop IE! - http://www.stopie.com/ | http://browsehappy.com/

Re: [WSG] Another Zen Garden Entry

2005-01-14 Thread pixeldiva
The design is lovely, but unfortunately, in ie5.5, your footer is stuck to the left hand side of the screen, rather than where it should be following on from the main column above. pix http://www.pixeldiva.co.uk ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] IE5.01 Troubles

2005-01-14 Thread Tom Livingston
That was it. Thanks. The two different widths are intentional, though. I am filtering a slightly smaller width to Win IE, and another to the rest... Thanks. Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic mlinc.com On Jan 13, 2005, at 9:13 PM, Jixor - Stephen I

Re: [WSG] Popups (plus, standards-based event handling)

2005-01-14 Thread Ben Curtis
Another method I've imagined but never implemented is for each added function to add itself to an array of functions. ... It's efficient. Your imagination is should try it. Er, Your imagination is on the right track; you should try it. My imagination, apparently, completes sentences that my

Re: [WSG] Zero margin - just sharing

2005-01-14 Thread Ben Curtis
I know a lot of people use this: * { margin:0; padding:0; } To help reduce code and eliminate lots of those strange default margins issues. Don't think this has been mentioned anywhere yet, but one issue I found with this, was that within dropdowns the downarrow GUI, covers some of the text on

[WSG] Correct styling of text material submitted as a table

2005-01-14 Thread Marilyn Langfeld
I hesitate to ask, now that the table thread has quieted down, but here goes: How should I mark up text that's submitted as a Word table, especially when each cell may contain a mix of partial sentences, full sentences, list items? Sometime with three or four columns, and eight or ten rows? Best

RE: [WSG] Correct styling of text material submitted as a table

2005-01-14 Thread Ted Drake
Hi Marilyn As the one that started the last table thread, I would recommend providing us with an example. Your request, like mine, can be interpreted in many ways. Ted -Original Message-From: Marilyn Langfeld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:47

Re: [WSG] Correct styling of text material submitted as a table

2005-01-14 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Marilyn Langfeld wrote: How should I mark up text that's submitted as a Word table, especially when each cell may contain a mix of partial sentences, full sentences, list items? Sometime with three or four columns, and eight or ten rows? It's a layout table, so - once we get over the fundamental

RE: [WSG] Correct styling of text material submitted as a table

2005-01-14 Thread Ted Drake
wait, now I'm confused. table headers, thead/tbody, summary tags are structural? I thought they were meant to define the data and were good. Ted -Original Message- From: Patrick H. Lauke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 12:13 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] Correct styling of text material submitted as a table

2005-01-14 Thread Marilyn Langfeld
Here's a simple example. Just two columns, two rows, one set of column heads and row heads within the main cells. Column One: Column Head: Objectives Recommended action lines for WHO and Member States Cell One: x-tad-smallerPolicy /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller- Ensure public policies

Re: [WSG] Correct styling of text material submitted as a table

2005-01-14 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Ted Drake wrote: wait, now I'm confused. table headers, thead/tbody, summary tags are structural? They give structure to tabular data. I thought they were meant to define the data and were good. Not when the data in question is not tabular data. If the table is used for layout, it should not

Re: [WSG] Correct styling of text material submitted as a table

2005-01-14 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Marilyn Langfeld wrote: *Here's a simple example. Just two columns, two rows, one set of column heads and row heads within the main cells. Ok, right, that clarifies it. In this case you are, in effect, providing tabular data - that wasn't quite clear from the original email. If I understand it

Re: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [WSG] Correct styling of text material submitted as a table

2005-01-14 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: If I understand it correctly, here's the structure I'd suggest. Actually, re-reading your example data, I did misunderstand your structure. In fairness, it seems a bit convoluted. This is looking more and more like a complex table that needs proper ids and header

RE: [WSG] Correct styling of text material submitted as a table

2005-01-14 Thread Ted Drake
Patrick has some great ideas, I like the use of list items in the cells to simplify the presentation. I started to put together a similar table and then thought it may not be the best approach. I'm all for tables in the right instance. But this content you are working on could be done with divs

Re: [WSG] Correct styling of text material submitted as a table

2005-01-14 Thread Marilyn Langfeld
Okay. I feel more confident then, if given text like my example. Thanks for the example markup. That does help. I was beginning to wonder, after the earlier discussion, whether only numeric data could be semantically correct in a table. Best regards, Marilyn Langfeld

Re: [WSG] Another Zen Garden Entry

2005-01-14 Thread Charles Martin
Mani Sheriar wrote: In general, I actually prefer fixed layouts to fluid. I have a wide monitor and when divs take up all the available space on it they are often unwieldy to read, not to mention less attractive. Actually, I had forgotten about that, but you're right. I've seen it mentioned

[WSG] Ids in body?

2005-01-14 Thread Wayne Godfrey
Is it possible to use two or more ids in the body of a page? I have a nav and a sub nav that I'd like to be able to light up. It seems I can use unlimited class elements, but I can't get more than one id to work at a time. Wayne ** The

Re: [WSG] Ids in body?

2005-01-14 Thread Carmelyne Thompson
Yes, it's possible. But dont have identical name for ID's. They don't work that way. -- Carmelyne Thompson Web Architect/Developer Wayne Godfrey wrote: Is it possible to use two or more ids in the body of a page? I have a nav and a sub nav that I'd like to be able to light up. It seems I can use

Re: [WSG] Ids in body?

2005-01-14 Thread Darren Wood
Wayne Godfrey wrote: Is it possible to use two or more ids in the body of a page? Hi Wayne, Id's have to be unique. i.e. only one per page. you can reuse classes, though. Cheers Darren ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

Re: [WSG] Ids in body?

2005-01-14 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Wayne Godfrey wrote: Is it possible to use two or more ids in the body of a page? I have a nav and a sub nav that I'd like to be able to light up. It seems I can use unlimited class elements, but I can't get more than one id to work at a time. By definition, an element can only have a single,

Re: [WSG] Ids in body?

2005-01-14 Thread Wayne Godfrey
On 1/14/05 9:26 PM, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By definition, an element can only have a single, unique id. Boy do I feel dumb... w ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

[WSG] IE and background image

2005-01-14 Thread Bruce
I must be tired. I can't see why this displays correctly in firebox but not in ie. Anyone know? I can't give the url right now as it is totaledlate here .twikiLeftBar {background-image: url(/miner2.jpg); background-repeat: no-repeat; border-top:1px solid #ddd; color:#800;

Re: [WSG] Another Zen Garden Entry

2005-01-14 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
Mani Sheriar wrote: Thanks, Charles! Just to put in my two cents about the wasted space issue In general, I actually prefer fixed layouts to fluid. I have a wide monitor and when divs take up all the available space on it they are often unwieldy to read, not to mention less attractive. I

Re: [WSG] IE and background image

2005-01-14 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day not in ie. Anyone know? I can't give the url right now as it is totaledlate here .twikiLeftBar {background-image: url(/miner2.jpg); background-repeat: no-repeat; border-top:1px solid #ddd; color:#800; overflow:hidden; line-height:1.3em; } Hard to tell from this code snippet

RE: [WSG] 2 WEEKS TONIGHT! Funkdub @ City Bar, Chester

2005-01-14 Thread Brett Walsh
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Re: [WSG] IE and background image

2005-01-14 Thread Bruce
Bert Doorn wrote: not in ie. Anyone know? I can't give the url right now as it is totaledlate here .twikiLeftBar {background-image: url(/miner2.jpg); background-repeat: no-repeat; border-top:1px solid #ddd; color:#800; overflow:hidden; line-height:1.3em; } I did get it working