Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links (and accessibility)

2007-10-23 Thread Or Golan
On 10/23/07, Moira Clunie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/19/07, Michael MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not much good for someone using a device without sound From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Or Golan I'm guessing that a person who uses a screen reader has sound

Re: [WSG] Leopard mail and standards

2007-10-23 Thread Keryx Web
To everybody who has answered me in this thread: 1. I do realize that it is impossible to use perfect markup today, mainly because of the ghastly Outlook 2007. (A product I am boycotting BTW - but tell the to the mobile phone manufacturers. It syncs with Outlook is the ubiquitous sales

[WSG] how a href with javascript pass in A level

2007-10-23 Thread Gaspar
Hello, iam trying to understand how a page that have 1 or 2 javascript in href could pass in level A of WCAG 1. it have a noscript but that doesnt prove anything, cynthisays.com and TAW validators give the some result. I think they should give a warning or even a Human check. To prove if

Re: [WSG] how a href with javascript pass in A level

2007-10-23 Thread Dave Woods
Hi, CynthiaSays should only be used as a first step so passing any online automated accessibility test by no means guarantee's that a site is accessible so you should always do a manual check. The search is definitely not accessible on the link you've provided as it simply doesn't work without

Re: [WSG] how a href with javascript pass in A level

2007-10-23 Thread Gaspar
The problem is that the test pass in level A, and some links doesnt work without javascript but because of a existense of a noscript the test pass. I think this should get a manual check or warning. because almost noscript that i see just tell, this need flash plugin or this site need javascript

RE: [WSG] how a href with javascript pass in A level

2007-10-23 Thread Patrick Lauke
Gaspar I think this should get a manual check or warning. You should ALWAYS do human checks of whatever an automated validation tools tells you, unless it's something purely technical (e.g. does markup validate to spec). P Patrick H. Lauke Web Editor

Re: [WSG] how a href with javascript pass in A level

2007-10-23 Thread Gaspar
yes thats is my oppinion too, but the clients only gona see if pass or not. And for many developments that's all that matter. On 23/10/2007, Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gaspar I think this should get a manual check or warning. You should ALWAYS do human checks of whatever an

Re: [WSG] How to make DHML cover flash

2007-10-23 Thread James Ellis
Hi Michael I had about 2 minutes to wait for the flash to download (and I have a 20Mbps connection), so ample time to click one of the menu items in Konquerer. For those browsers that don't do the wmode thing, how about some links elsewhere on the page. For instance in drop down menus it's a

Re: [WSG] Web Standards In Colleges and Universities

2007-10-23 Thread Nancy Johnson
I was hired to work on a section of a fairly visible high volume site in the US. I had an image comp and was all set to build out the structure using standards when I got handed the html and css I was supposed to use. I was aghast as the table based nested table structure that was so sloppy it

RE: [WSG] How to make DHML cover flash

2007-10-23 Thread Ted Drake
You can get dhtml to cover flash by setting the flash to use wmode:transparent. However, this makes the content in the flash invisible to screen readers. IE6 is hell with z-index. Especially when combined with form elements. IE7 is much better and you should be able to create a page that works in

Re: [WSG] How to make DHML cover flash

2007-10-23 Thread Christian Montoya
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Kear Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:14 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] How to make DHML cover flash Since we are likely to have perhaps 1 or 2 users only using any of

Re: [WSG] Web Standards In Colleges and Universities

2007-10-23 Thread Tim Palac
The way my school approached it was interesting. My major was in a combination of Interactivity, Video, and Animation under the label of Time Arts. It was definitely different than what I hear you describing here, so I think it depends on the university. For the interactive/web end of things,

Re: [WSG] Web Standards In Colleges and Universities

2007-10-23 Thread Dennis Lapcewich
For colleges and universities based in the USA, you might want to look at your respective state laws with respect web accessibility. Some states are either incorporating the federal Section 508 accessibility law for all state (supported) web sites, or are writing their own state web accessibility

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread Tim MacKay
Hi There, You just need to put a rule in your style sheet to exempt images from the hover style. This should work as a global rule: #sidebar a img {border: none} Hope this helps. Tim Olajide Olaolorun wrote: Can someone please help me with this small problem i'm having I seem to have

[WSG] Javascript Code not working in IE6

2007-10-23 Thread Alexander Uribe
In my javascript class at college, I have to find out why this piece of code does not run in IE6. I can't seem to figure out why. If anyone knows, that would be great cheers, Alex. Code below !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd; html

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread Web King Design
Your image is using the same a:hover properties as the text a:hover. so give the image its own class or id attribute, with no border, so say... .noborder{border:none} then add img class=noborder to the image Ben Olajide Olaolorun wrote: Can someone please help me with this small

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread Olajide Olaolorun
It doesnt work :( I just tried it now... placed it in the default.css On 10/23/07, Tim MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi There, You just need to put a rule in your style sheet to exempt images from the hover style. This should work as a global rule: #sidebar a img {border: none} Hope

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread Chris Knowles
Olajide Olaolorun wrote: It doesnt work :( I just tried it now... placed it in the default.css On 10/23/07, Tim MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #sidebar a img {border: none} I haven't looked at your code but you mentioned it not displaying a border on hover so presumably you need this:

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread Olajide Olaolorun
That doesnt work too Ben... On 10/23/07, Web King Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your image is using the same a:hover properties as the text a:hover. so give the image its own class or id attribute, with no border, so say... .noborder{border:none} then add img class=noborder to the image

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread Tim MacKay
I think Chris is right. Set the a:hover to {border: none;} Olajide Olaolorun wrote: It doesnt work :( I just tried it now... placed it in the default.css On 10/23/07, Tim MacKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi There, You just need to put a rule in your style sheet to exempt images from the

RE: [WSG] Javascript Code not working in IE6

2007-10-23 Thread Focas, Grant
IE does not support the W3C addEventListener, it uses attacheEvent so you need a cross-browser way to attach events. Here's one: function attachEventListener(target, eventType, functionRef, capture){ // function can be called with a pointer or a string representing a function name

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread Chris Knowles
Chris Knowles wrote: #sidebar a:hover img {border: none} I had a look at your code! - try this: #sidebar .one-image a:hover { border: 0 !important; } in your code you used: #sidebar a:hover,.blogfoot a:hover{ border:1px solid #FFF !important; } because tou used important!

Re: [WSG] Javascript Code not working in IE6

2007-10-23 Thread Kevin Lennon
Alexander Uribe wrote: In my javascript class at college, I have to find out why this piece of code does not run in IE6. I can't seem to figure out why. If anyone knows, that would be great cheers, Alex. Code below !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread Chris Knowles
Chris Knowles wrote: Chris Knowles wrote: #sidebar a:hover img {border: none} I had a look at your code! - try this: #sidebar .one-image a:hover { border: 0 !important; } Olajide, because you are resetting a border of 1px to 0 the image will probably move so you may need to

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread Web King Design
try this.. #yourimage a img{ border: none; } OR .yourimage{margin:0px} .yourimage a{border:none} .yourimage a:hover{border:none;} Tim MacKay wrote: I think Chris is right. Set the a:hover to {border: none;} Olajide Olaolorun wrote: It doesnt work :( I just tried it now... placed it in

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread David Niemann
Try this... a img { margin-bottom: -2px; vertical-align: sub; border: none;} Worked for me in a similar situation. David On 24/10/2007, at 9:03 AM, Olajide Olaolorun wrote: Can someone please help me with this small problem i'm having I seem to have a problem with the link hover style i

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread Chris Wilson
Contrary to everything else put forth about the 'issue', this actually works... change #sidebar a:hover,.blogfoot a:hover{ border:1px solid #FFF !important; } to #sidebar li a:hover,.blogfoot a:hover{ border:1px solid #FFF !important; } add the li so it only applies to links inside the

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread Chris Knowles
Chris Wilson wrote: Contrary to everything else put forth about the 'issue', this actually works... that statement isn't correct because this also works: #sidebar .one-image a:hover { border: 1px solid #000 !important; } The other attempts here try to fix a problem with an extra

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread Chris Wilson
Lex parsimoniae. Cheers. On 10/23/07, Chris Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Wilson wrote: Contrary to everything else put forth about the 'issue', this actually works... that statement isn't correct because this also works: #sidebar .one-image a:hover { border: 1px

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread Olajide Olaolorun
Chris Knowles solution works... both of them... I used the first one though cause i didnt want the border at all. Under firefox, the border cuts into the h3 title... so i dont mind the shifting Thanks a lot guys On 10/23/07, Chris Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Wilson wrote:

Re: [WSG] how a href with javascript pass in A level

2007-10-23 Thread Michael MD
The problem is that the test pass in level A, and some links doesnt work without javascript but because of a existense of a noscript the test pass. I think this should get a manual check or warning. because almost noscript that i see just tell, this need flash plugin or this site need