hi,
forgive me if this it ot, if so please reply off list.
Whats the best cross-browser way to get a div on top of swf with css.
If i use:
param name=wmode value=opaque /
with z-index will it be sufficent?
-best
kevin
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On 23 Oct 2008, at 15:35, kevin mcmonagle wrote:
hi,
forgive me if this it ot, if so please reply off list.
Whats the best cross-browser way to get a div on top of swf with css.
If i use:
param name=wmode value=opaque /
For having things like dynamic menus over flash using javascript,
I think it is:
param name=wmode value=transparent /
Everything else should work fine.
hope this helped.
-Manny
On Oct 23, 2008, at 9:35 AM, kevin mcmonagle wrote:
hi,
forgive me if this it ot, if so please reply off list.
Whats the best cross-browser way to get a div on top of swf with
Hi,
param name=wmode value=transparent / should do the trick, with z-index
of course.
Best regards,
Ben
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kevin,
make the value transparent. you can see an example i did of this here
http://bowdenweb.com/work-de/index.html. when you hover over the nav, it
dropsdown over the flash.
i tried z-indexing as well, but the only way i could get it to work is
through the example given.
Albert
On Thu, Oct
It is impossible to get a div sitting on top of flash in all browsers. Your
best bet is to hide the flash while your overlay is showing and show it when
it hides again. If the blank space where your flash was will be obvious you
could set a background image similar-looking to the flash on it's
The YUI container library offers the iframe shim, built in for ie6.
Watch the wmode:transparent if your flash movie contains actual content.
Wmode:transparent makes it justifiably invisible to screen readers. It's
basically telling the browser and screen reader the flash movie is for
decoration
Mark Stickley wrote:
It is impossible to get a div sitting on top of flash in all browsers.
hi mark, which browsers/versions would give me problems?
Your best bet is to hide the flash while your overlay is showing and
show it when it hides again. If the blank space where your flash was
will
Ted Drake wrote:
The YUI container library offers the iframe shim, built in for ie6.
Watch the wmode:transparent if your flash movie contains actual
content. Wmode:transparent makes it justifiably invisible to screen
readers. It’s basically telling the browser and screen reader the
flash
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_15523and Mark
Stickley is absolutly wrong
2008/10/23 kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi,
forgive me if this it ot, if so please reply off list.
Whats the best cross-browser way to get a div on top of swf with css.
If i use:
Kevin
IE6, IE7, FF2, FF3, whatever the latest versions of Opera and Safari that
are out. I'm kind of swamped right now, but if you need help, send me a link
and i'll see if i can make a quick fix. Not only does it work, but it
validates yo.
if you use AIM: Bowdown81isdead
or gtalk J. Albert Bowden
I am in the middle of a conversation with this guy who says that JavaScript
is an object-oriented language. Is he correct? Could you please site some
references?
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Hi Brett,
_javascript_ is commonly referred to as 'object-orientated' but really,
_javascript_ is 'prototype-based'. They do have different meanings, but
have some similarities...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prototype
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented_programming
Cheers,
JavaScript is an interpreted programming language with object-oriented
capabilities
REF:
JavaScript the Definitive Guide 5th Edition
David Flanagan
O'REILLY
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:52:39 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL
PROTECTED]: [WSG] JavaScript clarification pleaseI am in the
Brett,
I'd start with the Wikipedia entry on OOP (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_Orientated). It gives you a good
overview of what OOP is, and even has a paragraph on JavaScript and the
Document Object Model it uses. Wikipedia may not be the best source for
information if you are trying to
Hi Brett,
Javascript can be object orientated, it all depends on how your
using it. If you are using DOM etc then it's object. It's just like PHP 5
which is now object orientated with classes like GD+ and some of the classes
that rely on classes to work. I'm not a JS expert so I can't
Hi Anthony,
What about this link? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javascript Under Features
-- Dynamic Programming?
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Anthony Ziebell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Brett,
JavaScript is commonly referred to as 'object-orientated' but really,
JavaScript is
I am not trying to form an argument. But just trying to get my facts
straight. I don't want to sound dumb when talking to someone about
JavaScript.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Nick Tomczek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brett,
I'd start with the Wikipedia entry on OOP (
Brett Patterson wrote:
I am in the middle of a conversation with this guy who says that
JavaScript is an object-oriented language. Is he correct? Could you
please site some references?
How about the standard itself? :-)
Hi Brett,
_javascript_ objects are augmented with prototype. It should be noted
that the example you provided also notes that the dot notation is
merely syntactic sugar - meaning it is just a little bit of eye-candy
which provides no extra functionality.
_javascript_ objects are merely
Brett Patterson wrote:
I am in the middle of a conversation with this guy who says that JavaScript
is an object-oriented language. Is he correct? Could you please site some
references?
There's many different things people mean when they talk about object
orientation. If they talk about the
I didn't see that. :) But as I have read in other areas, JavaScript is based
on ECMAScript. And *Object-oriented programming (OOP)* is a programming
paradigm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_paradigm that uses
objects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_%28computer_science%29 and
their
Your point's are valid - my only real point here is
that it is more of a prototype-based language, than object.
Thanks,
Anthony.
liorean wrote:
Brett Patterson wrote:
I am in the middle of a conversation with this guy who says that _javascript_
is an object-oriented language. Is he
Sure, that's what an "object" is. But OOP is not
just about an "object". There is a lot more involved.
Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of _javascript_ - but it has faux classes
and objects, and this is why my opinion of _javascript_ is that it is
prototype, not object.
Cheers,
Anthony.
Brett
Forgot to clarify one thing: ECMAScript is fully OO
in my opinion, however _javascript_ is not a full implementation of
ECMAScript, unfortunately.
Thanks,
Anthony.
Brett Patterson wrote:
I
didn't see that. :) But as I have read in other areas, _javascript_ is
based on ECMAScript. And
2008/10/24 Anthony Ziebell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
JavaScript objects are augmented with prototype. It should be noted that the
example you provided also notes that the dot notation is merely syntactic
sugar - meaning it is just a little bit of eye-candy which provides no extra
functionality.
Well, I read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prototype-based_programming and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-based_languages , and I see your points.
But, for arguments sake, let's say it is not prototype-based. Would it be
object-oriented, like Java or C++, or object-based?
I read these as
I once heard javascript described:
javascript is a flower in a garden full of weeds
or was it
javascript is a weed in a garden full of flowers
tel your co-arguer one of those and you'll win hands down.
Regards.
Luke
Brett Patterson wrote:
Well, I read
No, I get it now. It is an argument waiting to happen. :) On a different
note, I have a problem with the JavaScript code I am writing. I am new to
JavaScript, and this is another reason as to why I was asking, and to know
for sure what it is/was/whatever. The code is suppose to replace a paragraph
2008/10/24 Anthony Ziebell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Forgot to clarify one thing: ECMAScript is fully OO in my opinion, however
JavaScript is not a full implementation of ECMAScript, unfortunately.
JavaScript is a superset of ECMAScript. If ECMAScript is opbject
oriented, so is JavaScript.
As I
A 'superset' of ECMA3 which is not fully compliant.
Right...
liorean wrote:
2008/10/24 Anthony Ziebell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Forgot to clarify one thing: ECMAScript is fully OO in my opinion, however
_javascript_ is not a full implementation of ECMAScript, unfortunately.
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Anthony Ziebell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A 'superset' of ECMA3 which is not fully compliant. Right...
I think you're confused. Maybe you you're thinking of the w3c dom-
Which is a seperate standard and topic from javascript/ecmascript.
All implementations of
2008/10/24 Anthony Ziebell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Forgot to clarify one thing: ECMAScript is fully OO in my opinion, however
JavaScript is not a full implementation of ECMAScript, unfortunately.
liorean wrote:
JavaScript is a superset of ECMAScript. If ECMAScript is opbject
oriented, so is
Whether _javascript_ is OOP is kind of a matter of
taste, rather than definition (Because there is no definition)
Agreed, hence the diverse arguments for / against,
and no way everyone would be able to agree on it. Perhaps we need to
write a standard on OO.
Thanks,
Anthony.
Breton Slivka
Oh, most definitely agreed. Sorry if I started an argument, I only wanted to
know what it was. I don't know if it is just me, but this topic seems to be
too controversial. Thank you all for answering.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Anthony Ziebell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*Whether
Good afternoon
Am using Russ Wheatley's Simple Nested Rollover List from A List Apart.
div id=nav
ul id=navlist
li id=activea href=index.html
id=currentHOME/a
ul id=subnavlist
li id=subactivea
param name=wmode value=transparent / should do the trick, with
z-index
of course.
I think this works on some browsers, but not everything
It might not be possible in some browsers or with some older versions of
flash player.
(I guess also that there may be similar problems with other
Hi Lynette,
The first list has a nested list correctly inside of the list item,
however your subsequent list items end the list item element before the
new nested list begins...
e.g:
lia href=""WEED
SPECIES/a/li
ul id="subnavlist"
li id="subactive"a href=""
Hi Lynette,
I see what you are asking now - this would probably need to be
refactored to have it validate.
Cheers,
Anthony.
Lynette Smith wrote:
Thanks Anthony - I've corrected that - but won't the repetition of
ul id's stop it validating?
The first list has a nested list
I see what you are asking now - this would probably need to be
refactored to have it validate.
Cheers,
Anthony.
Perhaps just change the id's to classes?
Kind regards
Lyn
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That might work - but then I don't know how the menu
scripts work. If they rely on ID's, then you will need to refactor.
Lynette Smith wrote:
I see what you are asking now - this would probably need to be
refactored to have it validate.
Cheers,
Anthony.
Perhaps
.
That might work - but then I don't know how the menu scripts work. If
they rely on ID's, then you will need to refactor.
I changed all the id's to classes and it works. Have only changed it on
the main page as yet but it looks OK and validates.
Thanks for the help!
Lyn
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