Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-14 Thread Kit Grose
You're right; innerHTML is much, much, MUCH faster to execute (see http:// www.quirksmode.org/dom/innerhtml.html for numbers). It's also quicker to code and to implement. However it leaves you with less handles on the elements you're inserting, and 'feels' wrong (in the same way that

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-14 Thread David Hucklesby
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:23:04 +1000, Kit Grose wrote: [...] I'm a big fan of JS libraries. I use Prototype (and Script.aculo.us) and YUI quite a lot as the basis of a lot of my larger JS-based sites. The advantage of YUI isn't so much its ability to maintain strong standards, but its very

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-13 Thread Jason Foss
Sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question, but what's the issue with innerHTML? On 13/10/2007, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/12/07, Simon Cockayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Anyone using jQuery (http://jquery.com/) or Yahoo UI (http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/) ?

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-13 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/13/07, Jason Foss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question, but what's the issue with innerHTML? It's not an official W3C DOM method. When you fill the content of an element with innerHTML, the browser will render it but as far as I can remember, the content

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-13 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/13/07, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/13/07, Jason Foss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question, but what's the issue with innerHTML? But if you are already using a very DOM-friendly framework like jQuery, you may as well take advantage

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-13 Thread Dan Dorman
On 10/12/07, Simon Cockayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I going to see green lights* in Firefox for standards compliance, error-free CSS and Javascript...oh...and will the HTML and CSS validate? I don't think _any_ Javascript libraries would affect HTML/CSS validation in any way whatsoever,

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-13 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/13/07, Dan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/12/07, Simon Cockayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I going to see green lights* in Firefox for standards compliance, error-free CSS and Javascript...oh...and will the HTML and CSS validate? I don't think _any_ Javascript libraries would

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-13 Thread Olly Hodgson
On 10/13/07, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a way, it's kind of like embed vs. object. In a way, but... Of course, if you really want to use innerHTML, you could probably go right ahead. But if you are already using a very DOM-friendly framework like jQuery, you may as well

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-12 Thread andy
Hi Simon, jQuery won't introduce any errors automatically, so unless you tell it to do something that will generate invalid HTML or CSS it will be fine. I assume the same is true of YUI. - Andrew Ingram Hi, Anyone using jQuery (http://jquery.com/) or Yahoo UI (

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-12 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 12/10/2007, Simon Cockayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone using jQuery (http://jquery.com/) or Yahoo UI ( http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/) ? Do they, help to, build nice Standards based apps? Am I going to see green lights* in Firefox for standards compliance, error-free CSS and

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-12 Thread Alfonso Catron
Hi Simon,, I was just reading a very interesting article regarding jQuery: http://www.digital-web.com/articles/jquery_crash_course/ probably you can get some more information from there. Alfonso Catron On 10/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Simon, jQuery won't

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-12 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 12/10/2007, Maarten stolte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not true. YUI is much more then a Javascript library, and it outputting alot of HTML and CSS could (possibly!) make it break your valid pages. My point was that YUI doesn't output any HTML on its own - it only does what you tell it to do.

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-12 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/12/07, Simon Cockayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Anyone using jQuery (http://jquery.com/) or Yahoo UI (http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/) ? Do they, help to, build nice Standards based apps? Am I going to see green lights* in Firefox for standards compliance, error-free CSS and

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-12 Thread Joseph Taylor
I haven't tried Yahoo's library, but jQuery is just great. I only use it lightly (getting DOM elements, applying classes etc), but its been very nice to work with so far. No code issues. Joseph R. B. Taylor - Sites by Joe, LLC Clean, Simple and Elegant Web

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-12 Thread Maarten stolte
On 12/10/2007, Simon Cockayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone using jQuery (http://jquery.com/) or Yahoo UI ( http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/) ? Do they, help to, build nice Standards based apps? Am I going to see green lights* in Firefox for standards compliance, error-free CSS and

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-12 Thread Tee G. Peng
Can you comment on Ext JS ? http://extjs.com/ I'd been wanting to know how it measure up with standards but thought this is not a place to ask, but where is the better place to get a better answer regarding standards? :) tee On Oct 12, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Christian Montoya wrote: On