Re: [wsjt-devel] S+P operation

2019-05-02 Thread Paul Kube
The documentation http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/FT4_Protocol.pdf says, re S+P: "Here “best potential QSO partner” means “New Multiplier” (1st priority) or “New Call on Band” (2nd priority)." Now it seems to me that "New Call" implies "New Call on Band", and so should qualify as a potent

Re: [wsjt-devel] Bug Report

2019-05-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 03/05/2019 01:27, Morris Wideman via wsjt-devel wrote: Why would I want to call another station on top of someone else. If the TX/RX freqs are suppose to locked together thats what they should do, I do sometimes operate split but I try not to get on top of another station. 73 WA4MIT Morris

Re: [wsjt-devel] Bug Report

2019-05-02 Thread Morris Wideman via wsjt-devel
Why would I want to call another station on top of someone else. If the TX/RX freqs are suppose to locked together thats what they should do, I do sometimes operate split but I try not to get on top of another station. 73 WA4MIT Morris  On Thursday, May 2, 2019, 5:44:44 PM CDT, Ron Koenig

Re: [wsjt-devel] Bug Report

2019-05-02 Thread Ron Koenig
Why would you want to TX on his frequency ? On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 15:30, Morris Wideman via wsjt-devel < wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Many thanks to the development team for sharing FT4 with us all. This > faster FT should really help the DXpeditions and Contesters I think it > work

[wsjt-devel] TO19A dxped

2019-05-02 Thread Iztok Saje
Hi! Yes, TO19A F/H is quite a confusion. As nonstandard call, they can not send proper report. Luckily, my call is short enough, so I get -1? report. 190502_11144521.078 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1710 S52D JN76 190502_11150021.078 Rx FT8 0 0.1 690 S52D TO19A -1 190502_11151521.078 T

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/05/2019 21:27, Topher Petty wrote: I tried to post wav files and a screenshot to back up my observations, but the message was rejected by the moderator. Hi Topher, this list limits the size of messages. You will have to post the file somewhere publicly visible and send a link. 73 Bill

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-02 Thread James Shaver
.wav files are pretty big and it may cause issues for people with limited bandwidth internet connections who participate via email. Perhaps host the .wav files via a third party site like SoundCloud, DropBox, or the like? 73, Jim S. N2ADV (ex KD2BIP) > On May 2, 2019, at 4:27 PM, Topher Pett

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-02 Thread Topher Petty
I tried to post wav files and a screenshot to back up my observations, but the message was rejected by the moderator. I do hope someone will look at the files, and they didn't just get lost to the aether. I'd hate to think the information I attempted to provide would go unused. On Thu, May 2, 201

Re: [wsjt-devel] TO19A dxped

2019-05-02 Thread Patrick 9A5CW
Hi Bill, Thanks for info. Will pass them a message that there is no Joy. Have a good night. 73, Patrick 9A5CW čet, 2. svi 2019. 21:57 Bill Somerville je napisao: > On 02/05/2019 20:47, Patrick 9A5CW wrote: > > Hi, > > Anyone could check if this Callsign Tango Oscar one nine Alpha -FR > > Reuni

Re: [wsjt-devel] TO19A dxped

2019-05-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/05/2019 20:47, Patrick 9A5CW wrote: Hi, Anyone could check if this Callsign Tango Oscar one nine Alpha -FR Reunion isl. comply with the FT8 2.0 callsign pfx rules? A DXped op called me if i can help them to setup F/H beacuse they had and still have problems with Dxped mode to answer cal

[wsjt-devel] TO19A dxped

2019-05-02 Thread Patrick 9A5CW
Hi, Anyone could check if this Callsign Tango Oscar one nine Alpha -FR Reunion isl. comply with the FT8 2.0 callsign pfx rules? A DXped op called me if i can help them to setup F/H beacuse they had and still have problems with Dxped mode to answer callers. Automatic station picking doesnt work ...

Re: [wsjt-devel] Issue installing 2.1.0rc5

2019-05-02 Thread brbroberts--- via wsjt-devel
On May 2, 2019, at 3:46 AM, Bill Somerville wrote: On 02/05/2019 03:44, false via wsjt-devel wrote: > Hi, folks, hoping to get some help with this issue. I searched the Yahoo > group archives and then sent this request to the group ~4 hours ago, have not > received a response yet. > > I rena

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-02 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Chris, On 5/2/2019 12:52 PM, Topher Petty AI8W wrote: ... I don't believe it's available processor power, or RAM availability. With only WSJT-X, TQSL, and Chrome (six tabs open) running, the T410 has more than enough processor (24 threads) to handle these decodes, yet they're not being deco

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-02 Thread Topher Petty
I've noted situations similar to this.. though I'm not running JTDX. There have been multiple times where a reply was strongly visible in the waterfall, yet nothing was decoded on that AF, and it took another TX/RX cycle to get the reply to decode a message. At first, I thought it was because I was

Re: [wsjt-devel] Qt Newsletter today pushing "Download Qt LTS 5.12.3" ...

2019-05-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/05/2019 17:20, Doug Jones wrote:   Does this the Qt version include the fix for the bug causing audio level resets to max (WSJT-X 2.1.0 for Win64)? Thanks, Doug AF4T Hi Doug, no it is scheduled for v5.12.4, currently targetted for release on 30th May. v5.12.3 came in one day late so

Re: [wsjt-devel] Qt Newsletter today pushing "Download Qt LTS 5.12.3" ...

2019-05-02 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
No...it's fixed in 5.12.4 https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-75024?jql=text%20~%20%22audio%22%20ORDER%20BY%20created%20DESC de Mike W9MDB On Thursday, May 2, 2019, 11:24:44 AM CDT, Doug Jones wrote:   Does this the Qt version include the fix for the bug causing audio level rese

[wsjt-devel] Qt Newsletter today pushing "Download Qt LTS 5.12.3" ...

2019-05-02 Thread Doug Jones
  Does this the Qt version include the fix for the bug causing audio level resets to max (WSJT-X 2.1.0 for Win64)? Thanks, Doug AF4T ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/05/2019 15:56, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: Well yeahbut I would assume somebody would want to look at a signal that seems to have sufficient SNR to decode.  Not enough info in his snapshot to tell where JTDX decoded it or what else may have happened. Seems to me a worthwhile

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-02 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Well yeahbut I would assume somebody would want to look at a signal that seems to have sufficient SNR to decode.  Not enough info in his snapshot to tell where JTDX decoded it or what else may have happened. Seems to me a worthwhile exercise to ensure something pathological isn't going on...

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-02 Thread Joe Taylor
On 5/2/2019 10:07 AM, DG2YCB, Uwe wrote: I’ve just made my first QSO with JTDX while running WSJT-X in parallel. And believe me or not: It happened exactly that what I noted in my first email. Look at the following screenshot: JTDX got the full QSO, but WSJT-X missed F5NK’s “+05” reply. Means w

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-02 Thread Bill Somerville
Hi Mike, signal strength alone does not guarantee successful decoding, for example a sender might change the transmitted messages twice during the transmission at, say 1/3 and 2/3 of the transmission length, there's no way that signal will be decoded in any of its three forms with normal deco

[wsjt-devel] S+P operation

2019-05-02 Thread WB5JJJ
Trying new features with FT4 and noticed that when S+P is active during non-CQ (receive only) operation, it will pounce on stations using directed calls such as CQ DX WB5JJJ EM35. In a contest situation, which FT4 is designed for, this would be fine since there will not be any directed CQ's typica

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/05/2019 15:07, DG2YCB, Uwe wrote: I’ve just made my first QSO with JTDX while running WSJT-X in parallel. And believe me or not: It happened exactly that what I noted in my first email. Look at the following screenshot: JTDX got the full QSO, but WSJT-X missed F5NK’s “+05” reply. Means wi

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-02 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Are you saving WAV files where you can send that WAV file to the group?If not, please turn on "Save/All" and when yoy get another like that one send it in.  Seems like there's some problem if it's not seeing a signal at the -06 level. Can't tell from your screen shot what pass# JTDX decoded it. d

Re: [wsjt-devel] Might be off topic...

2019-05-02 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Loaded question. You'll get numerous replies to this question... Personally I use the idea of checking hamspots.net to see what my signal reports look like.  If the majority of sig reports are < 0dB I figure I'm OK. The nice part of FT8 and such modes is they really don't interefer with anybod

Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.1.0-rc5 OK logging button problematic for blind hams

2019-05-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/05/2019 14:32, Mark James wrote: 4) I can't see that this change will possibly help with robot operators. Since this is open-source software, all the bad guys have to do is to fork it and make a build without these changes. And unless all the "clone" makers go along with the change, the r

Re: [wsjt-devel] Might be off topic...

2019-05-02 Thread James Shaver
Probably more a question for the WSJTGroup list rather than the Dev list - for what it’s worth, there are dozens of threads on this topic there already that are searchable. :) 73, Jim S. N2ADV > On May 2, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Topher Petty wrote: > > I'm simply curious about one thing... > >

[wsjt-devel] Might be off topic...

2019-05-02 Thread Topher Petty
I'm simply curious about one thing... What TX power levels does everyone run while working FT-8? I don't own an amplifier, and generally run at around 50W output on an IC-718. I know I *CAN* push it to 100W (50% duty cycle) but I like to leave some "headroom" to keep the radio cool while working

Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.1.0-rc5 OK logging button problematic for blind hams

2019-05-02 Thread Mark James
I think some things here need to be addressed: 1) The implication that there might be only one person affected by this doesn't make sense. You don't distribute something and then wait to see how many blind people have problems before you see there's an issue. 2) "we are branded as anti-accessibili

Re: [wsjt-devel] RC5 TX output level - 64 bit

2019-05-02 Thread James Shaver
For what it’s worth, I’m not seeing any difference with my 6300 and DAX/SSDR 3.0.19 between 2.0.1 and 2.1.0 RC5. ‘ Your 6600 must be defective - send it to me for, uh, proper disposal. ;). 73, Jim S. > On May 2, 2019, at 8:16 AM, Bill Somerville wrote: > >> On 02/05/2019 12:55, Al wrote:

Re: [wsjt-devel] RC5 TX output level - 64 bit

2019-05-02 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
I've got an ANAN 100 and I don't see any difference in power level between the 32-bit and 64-bit versions. You can use Audacity to record what's coming out of the WSJT-X audio to see if it's different between the two.   de Mike W9MDB On Thursday, May 2, 2019, 7:21:43 AM CDT, Bill Somervil

[wsjt-devel] Buggies 2

2019-05-02 Thread Jari A
Hi again, Another bug, actually happen earlier with 2.0.1 but appear second time with 2.1.0. Earlier I work Slovenian S57AT on FT4 - and got contest report on my "log qso" window, even S57AT did not send such, location goes to Spain. 550003JN01VR I just work VK1HX and I got again contest report

Re: [wsjt-devel] RC5 TX output level - 64 bit

2019-05-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/05/2019 12:55, Al wrote: (Flex 6600, SSDR&DAX 3.0.19, Wsjt 2.1.0-rc5, Win10 ) I have noted the the TX output level from WSJT-x v2.1.0-rc5 64bit ( all modes ) is 8db lower than in v2.0.1.  The 32 bit version of 2.1.0-rc5 produces the same TX output level as v2.0.1. It's not an operationa

[wsjt-devel] RC5 TX output level - 64 bit

2019-05-02 Thread Al
(Flex 6600, SSDR&DAX 3.0.19, Wsjt 2.1.0-rc5, Win10 ) I have noted the the TX output level from WSJT-x v2.1.0-rc5 64bit ( all modes ) is 8db lower than in v2.0.1.  The 32 bit version of 2.1.0-rc5 produces the same TX output level as v2.0.1. It's not an operational problem form me as I can compe

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 decoding sensitivity: WSJT-X vs. JTDX

2019-05-02 Thread Claude Frantz
On 5/2/19 11:47 AM, DG2YCB, Uwe wrote: Hi Uwe & all, Even when in JTDX decoder sensitivity is reduced to “use low thresholds” JTDX is still ahead regarding the number of decodes. So, my question is: What can I do (or can be done by the development team) to increase the decoding sensitivity o

Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.1.0-rc5 OK logging button problematic for blind hams

2019-05-02 Thread rjai...@gmail.com
Thanks Bill, He is using NVDA under Windows 10. If you want, he has agreed to allow TeamViewer access if you need to see the issues and possible solutions. But you can download the reader and attempt to re-create the problem yourself. https://www.nvaccess.org/ Many thanks 73 Ria N2RJ On Thu,

Re: [wsjt-devel] Issue installing 2.1.0rc5

2019-05-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/05/2019 03:44, false via wsjt-devel wrote: Hi, folks, hoping to get some help with this issue. I searched the Yahoo group archives and then sent this request to the group ~4 hours ago, have not received a response yet. I renamed my old installation and installed the rc5 version; the i

Re: [wsjt-devel] Log QSO Window -> OK and Cancel buttons oddbehavior -CRACKED

2019-05-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/05/2019 01:55, rjai...@gmail.com wrote: Apart from ADA stuff it simply isn't working for blind hams. Besides, the autobots have gotten advanced now to the point where they are simply modifying source code and bypassing all manual input. Not sure what can be done other than maybe invalida

Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.1.0-rc5 OK logging button problematic for blind hams

2019-05-02 Thread Bill Somerville
On 02/05/2019 01:52, rjai...@gmail.com wrote: I was helping a blind ham set up WSJT-X 2.1.0-rc5 today and it was apparent that this new arrangement to thwart robots simply isn't working for blind hams who rely upon screen readers and other accessibility technologies. There is no way for his scree