Re: [wsjt-devel] Question FT8

2021-10-04 Thread Bruce Bohannon via wsjt-devel
Gary, you very correct. I'm with you on that. Slow down. Enjoy the program for what it is. Bruce WA1YZN On 10/4/2021 16:50, Gary McDuffie via wsjt-devel wrote: On Oct 4, 2021, at 13:09, Andrew Neumeier via wsjt-devel wrote: This is a different situation than working strong signals on HF,

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question FT8

2021-10-04 Thread Gary McDuffie via wsjt-devel
> On Oct 4, 2021, at 13:09, Andrew Neumeier via wsjt-devel > wrote: > > This is a different situation than working strong signals on HF, where I > rarely operate FT8, so my experience is different. So, when another station > sends 73, and my station does not automatically respond, I'll

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-04 Thread Gary McDuffie via wsjt-devel
> On Oct 4, 2021, at 07:18, Neil Zampella via wsjt-devel > wrote: > > When you send RR73, when the Tx Enable turns off, the operator has the OPTION > to click it back on, select the Tx5 message, and have it go out. > > See ... already implemented. Just takes TWO clicks. Yep, takes

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-04 Thread Bill Frantz via wsjt-devel
On 10/3/21 at 10:50 PM, wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net (Alex via wsjt-devel) wrote: Even though I had let go of this rule, I think I will reinstate it again. No 73, no QSO. I really don't care if that means my log will be a few Q's short. The world is already rude enough as it is. We can

[wsjt-devel] Question FT8

2021-10-04 Thread Andrew Neumeier via wsjt-devel
Since I started this discussion, and have now read all the comments, some clarification is probably in order.  Most of my operating is on vhf, and the majority of that on 2M.  So, I am often dealing with very weak signals, many can't be heard, many of those at the edge of the capability of

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-04 Thread Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel
: Mon, Oct 4, 2021 12:39 pm Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8 Yes, that was exactly my point. Thanks for setting me straight. How could I have been so stupid to miss that. 73, --Alex KR1STOn Oct 4, 2021, at 9:33 AM, Neil Zampella via wsjt-devel wrote: It's currently optional

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-04 Thread Alex via wsjt-devel
Yes, that was exactly my point. Thanks for setting me straight. How could I have been so stupid to miss that. 73, --Alex KR1ST On Oct 4, 2021, 9:33 AM, at 9:33 AM, Neil Zampella via wsjt-devel wrote: >It's currently optional ... > >When you send RR73, when the Tx Enable turns off, the

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-04 Thread Neil Zampella via wsjt-devel
It's currently optional ... When you send RR73, when the Tx Enable turns off, the operator has the OPTION to click it back on, select the Tx5 message, and have it go out. See ... already implemented.  Just takes TWO clicks. Neil, KN3ILZ On 10/4/2021 7:21 AM, Alex wrote: Hi Jim, Hence the

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-04 Thread Alex via wsjt-devel
Hi Jim, Hence the suggestion to make it optional. Perhaps there should be a penalty for not being courteous on the bands. I can live with that. I always had to laugh when I read the discussions on the RTTY lists after a contest. It's full of complaints about operators sending a character too

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-04 Thread Claude Frantz via wsjt-devel
On 10/4/21 1:17 AM, Allan Downie via wsjt-devel wrote: Hi Allen, Bill & all, Technically the return 73 is not required for a valid QSO, however it is the polite thing to do. At the very least if confirms to your operating partner that all was received. I would like to at least see it as an

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-04 Thread Jim Brown via wsjt-devel
On 10/3/2021 7:50 PM, Alex via wsjt-devel wrote: No 73, no QSO. I really don't care if that means my log will be a few Q's short. The world is already rude enough as it is. We can take a few moments to be courteous. Not when there's short band opening for DX, and not in a contest. :) When

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-03 Thread Alex via wsjt-devel
Hi Andy, It would be nice if the software would allow the operator determine if the 73 message should always be part of the automatic exchange. In almost any other mode you can make that choice. A few folks called me a few times during the 2m and 222 sprints even though I thought we already

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-03 Thread Adrian via wsjt-devel
-devel *Inviato:* domenica 3 ottobre 2021, 20:37 *A:* WSJT software development *Cc:* Adrian *Oggetto:* Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8 Use RR73 instead of RRR and there is no issue, with one side saying RR with 73, and the other then 73. It is all there, I do not see the issue. vk4tux On 4/10/21 9

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-03 Thread Marco Calistri via wsjt-devel
Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> Da: Adrian via wsjt-devel Inviato: domenica 3 ottobre 2021, 20:37 A: WSJT software development Cc: Adrian Oggetto: Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8 Use RR73 instead of RRR and there is no issue, with one side saying RR w

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-03 Thread Adrian via wsjt-devel
If you really want to send a 73, you can, you select the call , enable TX and select TX5. Manual sends like this are doable, after the auto sequencing has finished. vk4tux On 4/10/21 12:08 pm, Andrew Neumeier via wsjt-devel wrote: Thanks to all who responded to my question. I suspected

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-03 Thread Andrew Neumeier via wsjt-devel
Thanks to all who responded to my question. I suspected that this would be the answer.  I've found that often a station not receiving the 73 from me in return, then sends 73 again sometimes until I respond in kind with a 73.  And I generally don't use RR73.  It's not a bug and by design. 

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-03 Thread Jim Shorney via wsjt-devel
The S9OK DXpedition ops guide specifically states "Once you decode the message ‘ S9OK ... RR73' (also called the TX4 message) from us, you should log the QSO." 73 -Jim NU0C On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 19:33:27 -0400 Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel wrote: > Allen and Andy, > > Yes, it is not required.

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-03 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel
Allen and Andy, Yes, it is not required. However, many stations (especially fox and hound) MUST receive a 73 to acknowledge a contact for a card. 73 de W8NET Miles “Gene” Marsh > On Oct 3, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Allan Downie via wsjt-devel > wrote: > >  Hi Andy...Yes it happens all the

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-03 Thread Adrian via wsjt-devel
Use RR73 instead of RRR and there is no issue, with one side saying RR with 73, and the other then 73. It is all there, I do not see the issue. vk4tux On 4/10/21 9:17 am, Allan Downie via wsjt-devel wrote: Hi Andy...Yes it happens all the time..BY DESIGN, apparently. I find it most

Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-03 Thread Allan Downie via wsjt-devel
Hi Andy...Yes it happens all the time..BY DESIGN, apparently. I find it most frustrating and bordering on rude. Technically the return 73 is not required for a valid QSO, however it is the polite thing to do. At the very least if confirms to your operating partner that all was received. I

[wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-02 Thread Andrew Neumeier via wsjt-devel
Hello to the group, I am using WSJTx, version 2.5, using the version for Ubuntu 20.04.  When operating FT8 and in contact with a station, once that station sends 73 my transmit becomes disabled, so my station does not send 73 unless I manually send it.  I am using auto sequence.  So, the