Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-13 Thread Greg Troxel
Joe Taylor writes: > Hi Greg, > > N1DAM wrote: >> ... >> Thanks for the explanation. It would be good to have that be readily >> understandable by someone starting at the web site and trying to >> understand everything. Perhaps the "now go install kvasd" section could >> turn into an "optional

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-13 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Greg, N1DAM wrote: > ... > Thanks for the explanation. It would be good to have that be readily > understandable by someone starting at the web site and trying to > understand everything. Perhaps the "now go install kvasd" section could > turn into an "optional/recommended" section, with that

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-13 Thread Bill Somerville
On 13/11/2014 13:29, Bill Somerville wrote: > You may ask why the normal WSJT-X build script does do this all already. but he really meant to write: "You may ask why the normal WSJT-X build script doesn't do this already." Sorry 73 Bill G4WJS.

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-13 Thread Bill Somerville
On 13/11/2014 13:00, Greg Troxel wrote: Hi Greg, > Bill Somerville writes: > >> OK, hopefully the WSJT-X superbuild project mentioned previously will >> help you with that as it aims to provide a "proper" upstream source >> tarball that will build on any *nix system. There are some restrictions

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-13 Thread Greg Troxel
Bill Somerville writes: > OK, hopefully the WSJT-X superbuild project mentioned previously will > help you with that as it aims to provide a "proper" upstream source > tarball that will build on any *nix system. There are some restrictions > in that it requires Qt 5 at least, other than that

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-13 Thread Greg Troxel
Joe Taylor writes: > N1DAM wrote: >> How bad is it for someone to choose not to use KVASD? Does it cost them >> decode performance, or CPU time, or both? Or is it really not a >> feasible choice? The documentation I've found doesn't address this; it >> just says "go get this non-free code, w

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-12 Thread Sebastien F4GRX
Hello, I know very little about this world. But isnt the goal of a patent to disclose an invention? If so, the source code of KVASD is likely to be explained in great details in: http://www.google.com/patents/US6634007 (valid until 2019) Anyway... there is always this other project. Seems to w

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-12 Thread ki7mt
Hi Bill, all, See below On 11/12/2014 08:58 PM, Yannick Devos (XV4Y) wrote: > Hi Bill, > > I am answering below. > > 73, > Yan. > --- > Yannick DEVOS - XV4Y > http://www.qscope.org/ > http://xv4y.radioclub.asia/ > > Le 13 nov. 2014 à 07:37, Bill Somerville a écrit : > >> On 12/11/2014 23:51,

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-12 Thread Yannick Devos (XV4Y)
Hi Bill, I am answering below. 73, Yan. --- Yannick DEVOS - XV4Y http://www.qscope.org/ http://xv4y.radioclub.asia/ Le 13 nov. 2014 à 07:37, Bill Somerville a écrit : > On 12/11/2014 23:51, Yannick DEVOS (XV4Y) wrote: >> Hi Bill, > Hi Yan, >> >> I am not a specialist about this questions, but

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-12 Thread Bill Somerville
On 13/11/2014 00:59, Greg Troxel wrote: Hi Greg, I'll try and answer your questions since I kicked off this thread. > I'm a packager for pkgsrc, used on NetBSD and SmartOS (Illumos), and > which runs on about 20 other systems. I haven't yet packaged WSJT-X, > but it's on my eventually list. Th

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-12 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Greg, N1DAM wrote: ... > Longer term, it would be good to have a roadmap for removing the > need/desire to use non-Free code, as it seems to be causing signficant > practical problems (with the resulting lack of portability arguably > being the largest issue). I've seen some comments on the li

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-12 Thread Greg Troxel
I'm a packager for pkgsrc, used on NetBSD and SmartOS (Illumos), and which runs on about 20 other systems. I haven't yet packaged WSJT-X, but it's on my eventually list. This is 99% about not having spare time, but I am also unenthused about the non-Free aspects, both from a philosophical viewp

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-12 Thread Bill Somerville
On 12/11/2014 23:51, Yannick DEVOS (XV4Y) wrote: > Hi Bill, Hi Yan, > > I am not a specialist about this questions, but this is my comment. > What you could do on OS X is at first run check if the KVASD is present (and > updated) and if not download it and install it (with the EULA dialog, etc). >

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-12 Thread Yannick DEVOS (XV4Y)
Hi Bill, I am not a specialist about this questions, but this is my comment. What you could do on OS X is at first run check if the KVASD is present (and updated) and if not download it and install it (with the EULA dialog, etc). The ClamXAV antivirus does this for its internal engine which is de

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-12 Thread KI7MT
Hi Bill, General Info below. On 11/12/2014 02:36 PM, Bill Somerville wrote: > Hi All, > > This is an update on work in progress related to KVASD. Sorry it's yet > another long message but the KVASD situation is potentially toxic and is > long overdue for a good solution. > > Firstly some back

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X and KVASD and License Conformance

2014-11-12 Thread Richard Shaw
Yes, for users of Fedora I have submitted a review request to the RPM Fusion non-free repository, though no one has picked it up yet. https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3400 So as long as the rpmfusion repositories are installed, a "yum install wsjtx kvasd" would be sufficient. Unfor