Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-21 Thread Erik -
Policy is often dictated by practice. Since there is no FT8 v JT65 dynamic because mostly everyone on FT8 was on JT65, the trend recently has been to extend into the JT65 section on crowded bands. It is happening. It is working. Use just need to use your VFO or open your filters. Erik. From:

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-21 Thread Tsutsumi Takehiko
Hi Black, Gary, Libor, Richard, Eric, Thank you for your comments to my proposal. I updated my proposal based on your comments as follow. - Please

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-21 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
No way...JT65 is notably more sensitive than FT8.  FT8 is a lot of fun right now as you can make lots of QSOs pretty quickly.   Don't need to "phase out".  No big harm in taking the first 500Hz of the band for JT65 though that I can see.  Those bands are only "by practice"...not "by law". de Mi

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-21 Thread Gary Kohtala - K7EK via wsjt-devel
Perhaps it is time to phase out JT65 on HF, in favor of FT8 and JT9. That would most certainly be best use of spectrum, considering the bandwidths and efficiency of those modes. Best regards, Gary, K7EK From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel To: WSJT software development Cc: Black Michael

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-21 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Why nobody at 200-400? Is the 2kHz (or maybe 1kHz) lower available on the busy bands?  Perhaps you could just announce on the wsjt-x list and see if you get any takers.   If you get several DX'ers to joiin you it may work.  de Mike W9MDB On Tuesday, November 21, 2017, 3:16:42 PM CST, Ri

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X FT8 CQ DX Filter needed to filter out Local Stations from hijacking my contacts for Multi-hop 6 meters openings

2017-11-21 Thread G8DQX (WSJT developers on SF)
Mike, *1)* your issue seems to be one where split working is part of the solution *2)* you are seeking somehow to constrain *everyone else* for the benefit of your potential QSO *3)* in general intra-continental and inter-continental frequencies on VHF are different, to avoid problems with l

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-21 Thread Richard Lamont
On 21/11/17 19:14, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: > Don't you have any room at 2000-2500?  Or is it really so crowded there's no > space anywhere? Talking specifically about 80m ... It's usually possibly to find a slot, although 2000-2500 is often spoiled by audio harmonics from stations l

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-21 Thread Erik -
Believe us – on 20m, 40m, and in the past week 80m, here in Europe it is packed solid. There is a gradual drift up into the voids of ex-JT65 space. When you get the fixed frequency idea out of your head and tune the VFO, it is amazing what is up there on FT8. ZS8Z was a prime example. Erik. F

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-21 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Don't you have any room at 2000-2500?  Or is it really so crowded there's no space anywhere? de Mike W9MDB -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.l

[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X FT8 CQ DX Filter needed to filter out Local Stations from hijacking my contacts for Multi-hop 6 meters openings

2017-11-21 Thread Michael Aust
Anyone know if there to keep WSJT-X 1.8 from responding to my calling CQ DX from Local North America Stations inside WSJT-X or JT-Alert Trying to do FT8 6 meters and doing multi-hops from North America into Europe and window for hop is critical When a Local Station responds to my CQ DX, a Loc

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-21 Thread Richard Lamont
On 21/11/17 16:39, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: > FT8 can also decode overlapping signals fairly well. Can it? I see little evidence of that. The second-pass decodes appear in the Band Activity window after the first-pass decodes and my experience are relatively few in number. And when FT8

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-21 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Is anybody on JT65 running out of room at 500-2000 offset?Why do we need to change anything?Yes...SOME rigs can do 3000, many cannot. So if you want to transmit above 2500 you may be losing a lot of people (including DXpeditions). Moving the 7.074 to 7.073 means anybody running an older version w

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-21 Thread Richard Lamont
On 21/11/17 16:05, Libor Holouš wrote: > According this theme I'd like to ask about expanding the band possibility. > FT8 seems to be very popular these days and there are some DXpeditions > operating there, so 2 kHz is not enough space for all that traffic. The > extreme is 40 and 20m, but whe

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-21 Thread Libor Holouš
Hello guys.. According this theme I'd like to ask about expanding the band possibility. FT8 seems to be very popular these days and there are some DXpeditions operating there, so 2 kHz is not enough space for all that traffic. The extreme is 40 and 20m, but when propagation allows, the other ba

Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request of FT8 TX Frequency limitation less than 2kHz

2017-11-21 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Although FT8 has "intruded" on the lower part of the normal JT65 spot I don't see it as a problem.There aren't that many JT65's out there...and, in the past, I've seen plenty of JT65's "intruding" on the JT9 area.It's quite natural to bump up the 2kHz limit when the band is crowded.  ALl has to

Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with standard message generation

2017-11-21 Thread Scott Bidstrup
On 21/11/2017 06:38 a.m., Rich - K1HTV wrote: Scott, Have you tried using the F4 key to clear the current QSO messages then click on the new station call that you want to work? Yes, that works. Thanks, Rich. Helps enormously with pileups. 73 all, Scott Bidstrup TI3/W7RI -

Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with standard message generation

2017-11-21 Thread Daniel Ekman
I don't recognize this behavior at all, but I have checked the "allow tx freq changes while transmitting" in the general settings tab, maybe this is key ? It at least tells me (in rx freq box and lower left status) it's sending the new response to the double clicked message, and both have timestamp

Re: [wsjt-devel] Problem with standard message generation

2017-11-21 Thread Rich - K1HTV
Scott, Have you tried using the F4 key to clear the current QSO messages then click on the new station call that you want to work? 73, Rich - K1HTV sc...@bidstrup.com -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of th