Re: [Xastir] I-Gate setup
Hi Lee.thanks... i have had Xastir set up as you say for a long time BUT have never seen it work as an I-gate in the way aprsg is at the present time. i know it should work and have tried to find out why not but i havent got too much hair to keep pulling it out HI HI 73 David VK4BDJ On 12/06/14 00:43, Lee Bengston wrote: Hi David, In Xastir, under File-Configure-Defaults in the menu, there is a section labeled IGate Options. Check the box that says Allow RF to Inet and Inet to RF traffic, and click OK. Then under Interface-Interface Control in the menu, select your AX25 interface and click the Properties button. The same Igate options that are in the defaults menu are there. Check the same box for RF to Inet and Inet to RF, and click OK. In the Inet to RF direction, this will gate only messages. Regards, Lee - K5DAT On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 12:07 AM, David djm...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi Lee...i should have mentioned im using a AX25 tnc port as set out in the HowTo:AX25 on the Xastir wiki David On 11/06/14 13:56, David wrote: Hi Lee. i bow to your superior knowledge i have aprsg running on Ubuntu 14.04 .i have config it to do the same as our other local I-gate which is off the air at this time..using FT-2800 to TNC-X it takes messages from APRS-IS and TX to the local APRS repeater the incoming Igate area is limited to 1300 kms so that i dont flood the repeater with too much signals. I have heard that Xastir can IGATE but have only seen how to configure it as a Digipeater...how can Xastir be set up to do what im doing with aprsg 73 David VK4BDJ On 11/06/14 12:29, Lee Bengston wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:16 PM, David djm...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi.agree that update would be good ability to have an included igate that can be configured to my knowledge linux only has 3 igate programs worth looking at aprsg,aprx2,dixprsthe only one ive got working is aprsgthe other two i cant get to work with a AX25 port and a TNC-x...at least i havent got the configs correct will keep trying. Those are the small programs ideal for running headless. I've tried all 3 of them - aprsg is not good as a Tx Igate because it can't be limited to gate only messages to RF, which is standard. I like the format of the text config file for aprsg - may have been a little easier than aprx or dixprs, but I have been able to get all of them to work. Dixprs is a bit tricky when you first try it with AX25 because the ax25 port is referenced as ax0 or ax1, etc. as the case may be instead of referencing the name of the ax25 interface in /etc/ax25/axports like other software does. In Linux, Xastir already supports Igating, and so does YAAC. JavAPRSIgate also runs in Linux, which is an adjunct to javAPRSServr. Also aprsd works as an Igate, and APRSIS32 runs fine in wine, so Linux has a lot more choices than those 3. I understand DireWolf also can Igate, but I've not tried it. Lee - K5DAT ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] I-gate setup
Hi Leeim wondering if we are both thinking the same thing about messages that are gated by an I-gate the igate that VK4ZZ puts out takes the beacons that stations send to APRS-IS from within a radius of his station and retransmits them via RF to a local repeater which repeats them to the local area...his I-gate is down at the moment for repair and im attempting to provide backup in the meantime Aprsg is setup to do what his station does .take the beacons from the Inet and send them out on RF to the repeater VK4RAT-3 ...its doing a very good job of it.. the setup in Xastir or other igate software i havent found to do thisare they supposed to do it and if not why not 73 David VK4BDJ ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] I-gate setup
I believe you're describing the following feature described at http://www.aprs-is.net/IGateDetails.aspx Gate all packets to RF based on criteria set by the sysop (such as callsign, object name, etc.). In APRSISCE/32, I'm calling that filtered -IS to RF gating. This is not required but is allowed by the specification. What I've read that xastir implements for -IS to RF gating is described as: Gate message packets and associated posits to RF if all of the following are true: 1. the receiving station has been heard within range within a predefined time period (range defined as digi hops, distance, or both). 2. the sending station has not been heard via RF within a predefined time period (packets gated from the Internet by other stations are excluded from this test). 3. the sending station does not have TCPXX, NOGATE, or RFONLY in the header. 4. the receiving station has not been heard via the Internet within a predefined time period. A station is said to be heard via the Internet if packets from the station contain TCPIP* or TCPXX* in the header or if gated (3rd-party) packets are seen on RF gated by the station and containing TCPIP or TCPXX in the 3rd-party header (in other words, the station is seen on RF as being an IGate). Where message packets are the APRS-specified messages defined by datatype : (colon) and described in Chapter 14 of aprs101.pdf. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 On 6/11/2014 5:25 PM, David wrote: Hi Leeim wondering if we are both thinking the same thing about messages that are gated by an I-gate the igate that VK4ZZ puts out takes the beacons that stations send to APRS-IS from within a radius of his station and retransmits them via RF to a local repeater which repeats them to the local area...his I-gate is down at the moment for repair and im attempting to provide backup in the meantime Aprsg is setup to do what his station does .take the beacons from the Inet and send them out on RF to the repeater VK4RAT-3 ...its doing a very good job of it.. the setup in Xastir or other igate software i havent found to do thisare they supposed to do it and if not why not 73 David VK4BDJ ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] I-gate setup
Hi David, That's more than messages. If it's OK in your area to gate beacons, etc., then aprsg is probably one of the better solutions. See http://blog.g4ilo.com/2010/12/aprs-gateway.html Regards, Lee On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:25 PM, David djm...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi Leeim wondering if we are both thinking the same thing about messages that are gated by an I-gate the igate that VK4ZZ puts out takes the beacons that stations send to APRS-IS from within a radius of his station and retransmits them via RF to a local repeater which repeats them to the local area...his I-gate is down at the moment for repair and im attempting to provide backup in the meantime Aprsg is setup to do what his station does .take the beacons from the Inet and send them out on RF to the repeater VK4RAT-3 ...its doing a very good job of it.. the setup in Xastir or other igate software i havent found to do thisare they supposed to do it and if not why not 73 David VK4BDJ ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] I-Gate setup
I have been using the IGATE setup that comes with Xastir both mobile and at home never had any problems; only problem I have is when I set radius for 500+miles there is a station that is setup 24/7 with an Emergency beacon kinda frustrating at times BTW Dave have you moved from Queensland? 73 Chris N9JCA EM68fb I am always doing that which I CANNOT do; in order that I may LEARN how to do it On 06/11/2014 03:37 PM, David wrote: Hi Lee.thanks... i have had Xastir set up as you say for a long time BUT have never seen it work as an I-gate in the way aprsg is at the present time. i know it should work and have tried to find out why not but i havent got too much hair to keep pulling it out HI HI 73 David VK4BDJ On 12/06/14 00:43, Lee Bengston wrote: Hi David, In Xastir, under File-Configure-Defaults in the menu, there is a section labeled IGate Options. Check the box that says Allow RF to Inet and Inet to RF traffic, and click OK. Then under Interface-Interface Control in the menu, select your AX25 interface and click the Properties button. The same Igate options that are in the defaults menu are there. Check the same box for RF to Inet and Inet to RF, and click OK. In the Inet to RF direction, this will gate only messages. Regards, Lee - K5DAT On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 12:07 AM, David djm...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi Lee...i should have mentioned im using a AX25 tnc port as set out in the HowTo:AX25 on the Xastir wiki David On 11/06/14 13:56, David wrote: Hi Lee. i bow to your superior knowledge i have aprsg running on Ubuntu 14.04 .i have config it to do the same as our other local I-gate which is off the air at this time..using FT-2800 to TNC-X it takes messages from APRS-IS and TX to the local APRS repeater the incoming Igate area is limited to 1300 kms so that i dont flood the repeater with too much signals. I have heard that Xastir can IGATE but have only seen how to configure it as a Digipeater...how can Xastir be set up to do what im doing with aprsg 73 David VK4BDJ On 11/06/14 12:29, Lee Bengston wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:16 PM, David djm...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi.agree that update would be good ability to have an included igate that can be configured to my knowledge linux only has 3 igate programs worth looking at aprsg,aprx2,dixprsthe only one ive got working is aprsgthe other two i cant get to work with a AX25 port and a TNC-x...at least i havent got the configs correct will keep trying. Those are the small programs ideal for running headless. I've tried all 3 of them - aprsg is not good as a Tx Igate because it can't be limited to gate only messages to RF, which is standard. I like the format of the text config file for aprsg - may have been a little easier than aprx or dixprs, but I have been able to get all of them to work. Dixprs is a bit tricky when you first try it with AX25 because the ax25 port is referenced as ax0 or ax1, etc. as the case may be instead of referencing the name of the ax25 interface in /etc/ax25/axports like other software does. In Linux, Xastir already supports Igating, and so does YAAC. JavAPRSIgate also runs in Linux, which is an adjunct to javAPRSServr. Also aprsd works as an Igate, and APRSIS32 runs fine in wine, so Linux has a lot more choices than those 3. I understand DireWolf also can Igate, but I've not tried it. Lee - K5DAT ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] I-Gate setup
Hi Chris.i have moved from the outer suburbs of Townsville (Black River) into a more central are of the city to the suburb of Kirwan this was done for health reasons1.3 acres is too much to look after and we need to shops.hospital,doctors etc im back on air with JT56 but im very limited for antenna space...no room for hexbeam or dipole... have a S9V18 by LDG for 20m to 6m in the air works quite well if prop is reasonable. 73 David VK4BDJ On 12/06/14 10:25, Chris Matthews N9JCA wrote: I have been using the IGATE setup that comes with Xastir both mobile and at home never had any problems; only problem I have is when I set radius for 500+miles there is a station that is setup 24/7 with an Emergency beacon kinda frustrating at times BTW Dave have you moved from Queensland? 73 Chris N9JCA EM68fb I am always doing that which I CANNOT do; in order that I may LEARN how to do it On 06/11/2014 03:37 PM, David wrote: Hi Lee.thanks... i have had Xastir set up as you say for a long time BUT have never seen it work as an I-gate in the way aprsg is at the present time. i know it should work and have tried to find out why not but i havent got too much hair to keep pulling it out HI HI 73 David VK4BDJ On 12/06/14 00:43, Lee Bengston wrote: Hi David, In Xastir, under File-Configure-Defaults in the menu, there is a section labeled IGate Options. Check the box that says Allow RF to Inet and Inet to RF traffic, and click OK. Then under Interface-Interface Control in the menu, select your AX25 interface and click the Properties button. The same Igate options that are in the defaults menu are there. Check the same box for RF to Inet and Inet to RF, and click OK. In the Inet to RF direction, this will gate only messages. Regards, Lee - K5DAT On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 12:07 AM, David djm...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi Lee...i should have mentioned im using a AX25 tnc port as set out in the HowTo:AX25 on the Xastir wiki David On 11/06/14 13:56, David wrote: Hi Lee. i bow to your superior knowledge i have aprsg running on Ubuntu 14.04 .i have config it to do the same as our other local I-gate which is off the air at this time..using FT-2800 to TNC-X it takes messages from APRS-IS and TX to the local APRS repeater the incoming Igate area is limited to 1300 kms so that i dont flood the repeater with too much signals. I have heard that Xastir can IGATE but have only seen how to configure it as a Digipeater...how can Xastir be set up to do what im doing with aprsg 73 David VK4BDJ On 11/06/14 12:29, Lee Bengston wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:16 PM, David djm...@bigpond.com wrote: Hi.agree that update would be good ability to have an included igate that can be configured to my knowledge linux only has 3 igate programs worth looking at aprsg,aprx2,dixprsthe only one ive got working is aprsgthe other two i cant get to work with a AX25 port and a TNC-x...at least i havent got the configs correct will keep trying. Those are the small programs ideal for running headless. I've tried all 3 of them - aprsg is not good as a Tx Igate because it can't be limited to gate only messages to RF, which is standard. I like the format of the text config file for aprsg - may have been a little easier than aprx or dixprs, but I have been able to get all of them to work. Dixprs is a bit tricky when you first try it with AX25 because the ax25 port is referenced as ax0 or ax1, etc. as the case may be instead of referencing the name of the ax25 interface in /etc/ax25/axports like other software does. In Linux, Xastir already supports Igating, and so does YAAC. JavAPRSIgate also runs in Linux, which is an adjunct to javAPRSServr. Also aprsd works as an Igate, and APRSIS32 runs fine in wine, so Linux has a lot more choices than those 3. I understand DireWolf also can Igate, but I've not tried it. Lee - K5DAT ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@lists.xastir.org http://xastir.org/mailman/listinfo/xastir
