Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

Le 01/12/2017 à 16:09, Stéphane Ancelot a écrit : Le 25/11/2017 à 21:32, Philippe Gerum a écrit : On 11/24/2017 11:46 AM, Stéphane Ancelot wrote: The xenomai API is not enough documented in order to permit new developer's entry. Can you elaborate on what could be done to improve the

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

Le 25/11/2017 à 21:32, Philippe Gerum a écrit : On 11/24/2017 11:46 AM, Stéphane Ancelot wrote: The xenomai API is not enough documented in order to permit new developer's entry. Can you elaborate on what could be done to improve the documentation, according to your own experience with it?

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

Hi, This may be offtopic regarding xenomai itself. But, I am a member of the kde community, which is very active.Recently, they made some proposals to improve onboarding of new contributors. I think there are some very good ideas that can apply here, here is the link.

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

On 11/24/2017 11:46 AM, Stéphane Ancelot wrote: Hi guys, Here at Numalliance, as xenomai development contributors and users, we can give only a quick reply to some points at the moment : Regarding irc/mailing lists , we would prefer tools like Discord, that is a modern,very good

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

On 11/24/2017 11:46 AM, Stéphane Ancelot wrote: > The xenomai API is not enough documented in order to permit new > developer's entry. Can you elaborate on what could be done to improve the documentation, according to your own experience with it? > Targetting and permitting students to

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

Hi guys, Here at Numalliance, as xenomai development contributors and users, we can  give only a quick reply to some points at the moment : Regarding irc/mailing lists , we would prefer tools like  Discord, that is a modern,very  good collaborative and interactive tool to discuss

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

Hi, Wouldn't integrating both projects make sense ? It seems both share a significant amount of work and similar lack of resources. Sorry, talking about the "Real Time Linux" project and "Xenomai"... And sorry for the noise added automagically to my emails. :-( I should use some other mail

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

Hi, Wouldn't integrating both projects make sense ? It seems both share a significant amount of work and similar lack of resources. Best Regards, Cordialement, Stéphane LOS s...@hilscher.com Support technique Hilscher France 12, rue du 35ème Régiment

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

> Hi Steven, > > I have remote access to many ppc boards and could help here. This said > 85xx, 40x and 44x already cover much of the ppc32 scope running Xenomai > - maybe adding mpc52xx would be good, I have one here. I don't see much > traction these days for Xenomai over ppc64, so I'm not even

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

On 11/22/2017 09:27 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote: > On 2017-11-22 16:32, Philippe Gerum wrote: >> >> Hi Kendall, >> >> On 11/21/2017 08:27 PM, Auel, Kendall wrote: >>> Hi Philippe, >>> >>> Is there an online bug tracking and feature request database? This would be >>> a useful way to distribute work and

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

At Bela (bela.io) we use Xenomai on the BeagleBone Black for audio. Currently our resources are pretty scarce, but hopefully from March things should get better For instance, now that RobertCNelson has discontinued support for Xenomai on the BeagleBone, we may be able to help with that

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

Am Wed, 22 Nov 2017 21:26:23 +0100 schrieb Jan Kiszka : > On 2017-11-21 18:11, Philippe Gerum wrote: > > So, let's talk about the elephant in the room: the current > > situation of the Xenomai project is not viable in the long run. I > > can only encourage people who feel

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

Hi Steven, On 11/22/2017 05:49 PM, Steven Seeger wrote: > Philippe, as we have previously discussed I am willing to take over the PPC i- > pipe maintenance on my personal time if it will help. Thanks, that would be great. My only issue is right > now the only PPC board I have in my

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

On 11/22/2017 01:33 PM, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote: [snip] > > And finally, if you let me talk about our Elmer. > > The I/O frameworks are IMHO are crucial. It has a very limited scenario to > develop a RT system if it has no interaction with the external devices, or > whatever. I have

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

On 2017-11-21 18:11, Philippe Gerum wrote: > So, let's talk about the elephant in the room: the current situation of > the Xenomai project is not viable in the long run. I can only encourage > people who feel concerned about it to discuss openly the practical steps > to best address this

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

Philippe, as we have previously discussed I am willing to take over the PPC i- pipe maintenance on my personal time if it will help. My only issue is right now the only PPC board I have in my posseession is an 8548-based board. I might be able to borrow some 405 and 440-based boards from work if

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

On 11/21/2017 08:54 PM, Dmitriy Cherkasov wrote: > On 11/21/2017 09:11 AM, Philippe Gerum wrote: > >> So, let's talk about the elephant in the room: the current situation of >> the Xenomai project is not viable in the long run. I can only encourage >> people who feel concerned about it to discuss

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

Hi Kendall, On 11/21/2017 08:27 PM, Auel, Kendall wrote: > Hi Philippe, > > Is there an online bug tracking and feature request database? This would be a > useful way to distribute work and to sync up contributors. I think the kernel > uses Bugzilla, and Ubuntu has Launchpad. No doubt there

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

On 11/21/2017 06:26 PM, Greg Gallagher wrote: > Hi, >I've been using Xenomai for a couple of years now and having been > preparing my first patch. > I'd love to help any way that is needed. Documentation may be a good place > for me to start. There is no shortage of work on the documentation

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

I really like the idea of having some TODO files, this would given new comers to the project a place to start. Improving the documentation and adding a quick start guide might help get more people interested in using Xenomai. With more users hopefully that would lead to more contributors and

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

Hi, yes, it's true. We have an Elmer and his cousin Wilbur is rear the door. Let me remark some points of your great email: - about the I/O frameworks On 21/11/17 18:11, Philippe Gerum wrote: > The > situation has reached a point where I see no alternative to dropping > them if the situation

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

Hi, not really happy to hear that, but this was already my impression. There is alot of knowledge of kernel, hardware and bootloader knowledge necessary to be able to maintain the ipipe patch, as newcomer to most of these I am just helpless. Unless someone is dedicated to that, there is not

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

On 11/21/2017 09:11 AM, Philippe Gerum wrote: So, let's talk about the elephant in the room: the current situation of the Xenomai project is not viable in the long run. I can only encourage people who feel concerned about it to discuss openly the practical steps to best address this challenge.

Re: [Xenomai] [RFC] RTnet, Analogy and the elephant in the room

Hi, I've been using Xenomai for a couple of years now and having been preparing my first patch. I'd love to help any way that is needed. Documentation may be a good place for me to start. I'd also be more than happy to help maintain some of the I/O frameworks. I would probably need a mentor