[XFree86] KDM dies with signal 11

2004-02-14 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
I'm not sure if I should report this here, but I experience some problems with KDM. I don't know if this is the right place to go, but it was mentioned in the xdm.log file to report it here. Lately I very often have the problem, that KDM dies when I log out after a session. The only things I

Re: Radeon 9800XT 3D acceleration problem

2003-12-29 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:18:55 +, M Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To the best of my knowledge XFree86 4.3.0 supports all Radeon cards. Yes, but not 3D. XFree86 only provides 2D, for 3D acceleration (which is OpenGL not X11) you need to get the ATI binary drivers from ATI's website. Because

Radeon 9800XT 3D acceleration problem

2003-12-26 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
I have a Asus Radeon 9800XT and everything I tried so far, to get 3D acceleration working, failed. Now I wonder if there is the chance that XFree will support this card with 3D natiively any time soon. All the success stories I found were with 9800PRO and the only guy, I found with the XT model,

Re: State of radeon driver

2003-12-11 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:16:01 +0100, wim delvaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 11 December 2003 00:48, Gerhard W. Gruber wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:39:57 +0100, wim delvaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The closed source drivers on the ATI website I tried them, but no success. But I

Re: State of radeon driver

2003-12-10 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:47:27 +0100, wim delvaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't seen this posting. ??? There is no general OEM barrier anymore. It only was it was in early days where no one was sure if drivers would work well on those boards. It would be kind if you can you retry this

Re: State of radeon driver

2003-12-10 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:39:57 +0100, wim delvaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The closed source drivers on the ATI website I tried them, but no success. But I think the problem is with KDE/OpenGL because I managed to get at least the Desktop with Mesa working. Only when I try to activate the ATI

Wine crashes the machine

2003-12-08 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
I noticed that wine can crash the entire linux box. So what has that got to do with X? :) When I activate DGA and start wine the machine immediately crashes. Kernel: 2.4.22 (from kernel.org unpatched) CPU: Pentium4 XFree86: 4.3.0 Card: ATI Radeon 9800XT Driver: fglrx 3.2.8 It could be that this

Re: [XFree86] Radeon 920, hardware 3D

2003-12-05 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 00:16:11 +0100, Alexander Stohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: depends on distor and setup, sometimes there are standalone Mesa packages and other times it is all merged into the XF86 libGL packages as the non-optional sofware renderer fallback. I just found a posting in

Re: [XFree86] Radeon 920, hardware 3D

2003-12-05 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:14:10 -0800 (PST), Alex Deucher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3D accel on r300 cards (9500 and up) is only supported by ati's binary drivers. Oh, well. So I wonder what I should do now. :( It's now a full week that I try to find some info on how to enable that. The ABI error

Re: [XFree86] Radeon 920, hardware 3D

2003-12-04 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 07:49:05 -0800 (PST), Alex Deucher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like I said before: If you MB is 8x you will need to patch your 2.4 kernel with 8x support (or if you can set your BIOS to 4x only mode) or use a 2.6 kernel. once you have that done you can just use the DRI

Re: [XFree86] Radeon 920, hardware 3D

2003-12-04 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:57:10 +0100, Alexander Stohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how about a totally pure and simple XFree86? this will launch an X-Server without any window manager. shut it down with CTRL-ALT-Backspace if the mouse moves. OK. Never thought of that. On the other hand my desktop

Re: [XFree86] Radeon 920, hardware 3D

2003-12-04 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:57:10 +0100, Alexander Stohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how about a totally pure and simple XFree86? this will launch an X-Server without any window manager. shut it down with CTRL-ALT-Backspace if the mouse moves. other attempt, try fvwm2, twm or GNOME window manager. it

Re: [XFree86] Radeon 920, hardware 3D

2003-12-04 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:35:57 -0800 (PST), Alex Deucher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: run ldd on your glxgears or glxinfo executables and see which libGL it is using. It is using the ones from the driver. It uses libGL which points to a link which is the drvier lib. I made a diff on the file which is

ATI and NDA

2003-12-03 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On ATIs website I was reading that as a developer for XFree (and probably other graphics related stuff) you can sign an NDA and you will get all the information you need. Now I wonder how this will fit in with Open Source. When I sign this NDA then I wont be allowed to tell certain things to the

Re: ATI and NDA

2003-12-03 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
Thanks! -- Gerhard Gruber Maintainer of SoftICE for Linux - http://sourceforge.net/projects/pice Fast application launcher - http://sourceforge.net/projects/launchmenu ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Problem with ATI Radeon 9800 XT

2003-12-01 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
Two days ago I got my Radeon 9800 XT and so I was forced to upgrade from Suse 8.0 Pro to 8.2. Now my configuration is the following: Kernel: 2.4.22 (from kernel.org not from Suse) XFree86: 4.3.0 glibc: 2.3 I downloaded the drivers from ATI and I can insmod agpgart and fglrx, but when I try to

Re: Nvidia driver relation to XFree

2003-11-06 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 02:37:18 -0500 (EST), Mike A. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are 2 completely different Nvidia video drivers: Thanks. Now that is clear to me. There was some confusion on my part about the relation between the two. Also, whenever one does load kernel modules by hand,

Re: Nvidia driver relation to XFree

2003-11-06 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 02:50:57 -0500 (EST), Mike A. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wrong. Video mode switching is completely done within XFree86 itself, and does not involve the kernel at all. The video driver directly programs the CRTC on the video card in some drivers, and in other drivers,

Re: Nvidia driver relation to XFree

2003-11-06 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 12:48:47 -0400, Randy Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your statement confuses me. Maybe I miss your point, open source *does* mean you can read the source code. (Maybe you meant to say it does not mean that you can *only* read the source code?) Well, there are two

Re: Nvidia driver relation to XFree

2003-11-06 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:49:28 +0100, Rafa? Rzepecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why won't you check the open sourced XFree86 driver called 'nv'? The only functionality it lacks is AFAIK OpenGL and XV acceleration, and I don't think you would use these in a debugger. That's what i do. Thanks. Also

Re: Nvidia driver relation to XFree

2003-11-05 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:14:03 +0100, Rafa³ Rzepecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope that clears it up. Yes. Thanks. I hoped that the XFree part would have been open source, but of course that is a small hope. :) -- Gerhard Gruber Für jedes menschliche Problem gibt es immer eine einfache Lösung:

Re: Nvidia driver relation to XFree

2003-11-04 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:36:52 -, Rob Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one way to do what you want (from kernel space) is to use the kernel framebuffer driver for writing graphics, and use up one of the VT's for your debugger, switching to that vt when doing, umm, whatever your doing I know,

Re: Nvidia driver relation to XFree

2003-11-04 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:31:41 -0800, Tim Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nvidia.o is not a kernel module. It is just a dynamically loaded object file that gets loaded by the XFree86 dynamic loader and called entirely in user mode. It could have been done as an ordinary .so DLL, but the design

Re: Nvidia driver relation to XFree

2003-11-04 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:48:01 -0500 (EST), Mike A. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. I think he is of the belief perhaps that an X driver module is perhaps like an SVGAlib API you can use in arbitrary programs perhaps including kernelspace, which of course isn't true. NO, I was not

Nvidia driver relation to XFree

2003-11-03 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
I'm working on a kernel debugger which is similar to SoftICE on WIndows. I would like to take advantage of the graphics mode when a user activates the debugger under X and so I was investigating how to solve this. When I use normal VGA mode it doesn't work on my card when I have X running while a

Re: Nvidia driver relation to XFree

2003-11-03 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:58:10 +, Torgeir Veimo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would probably need to use an XFree86 extension. Look at the DGA extension. I don't want to use X itself. I need to use this functionality from within a kernel module, so I don't want to rely on a user space

Re: Nvidia driver relation to XFree

2003-11-03 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 10:08:37 -0800, Tim Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The video driver is part of XFree86. I don't think that this is neccessarily true, or is it? I don'tknow how it is for other cards but in case of NVidia you have this kernel module nvidia.o which you need to load and in the

Re: Capturing events from the root window

2003-11-01 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 11:55:08 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the raise will raise ontop of everything - BUt something may raise itself above your window immediately afterwards too... Bad luck. :) inputonly windows are invisible windows. you can map,unmap, move,

Re: Capturing events from the root window

2003-11-01 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:21:15 +, Raymond Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could fudge it if you have to. Monitor your window for configure notify events, and poll the root window. Whenever there is information How can I poll the root window? X sends me an XEvent when something

Re: Capturing events from the root window (ID20311056 ignore this number)

2003-11-01 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 21:24:46 +, Raymond Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: windows are visible (i.e. the X server will tell you that they exist, where they are, etc), but you can only receive events related to windows that YOU own. I tried now to use that VisibilityNotify event but the

Re: Capturing events from the root window

2003-10-31 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:52:44 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no. the wm - or any app can go raising windows above yours... you cant clock windows in place to be on top as such. (ok we can argue of some nasty hacks and methods if you are the wm... but thats a world

Re: Capturing events from the root window

2003-10-30 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:20:52 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: basically you are competing with the wm. you need to basically hack/modify/patch and work WITH the wm to do what you want. you cant do it on your own. now your solution will be wm specific. So it this

Re: Capturing events from the root window

2003-10-30 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:18:31 + (GMT), Dr Andrew C Aitchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that the RECORD extension is what people use for that sort of Recording is not really what I need for my app, because I will only see the events and can not prevent them from getting through to

Re: Capturing events from the root window

2003-10-30 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:51:07 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you willonly then get events when the mouse passes over your thin window. That's no problem as long as my window stays on top. not as a widget - no. you'll have to jump down to gdk. i'm not sure if gdk

Re: Capturing events from the root window

2003-10-29 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:20:00 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: again - see my other reply. you've found a can of worms that basically x doesn't do. ou COULD do this with mouse button presses (XGrabButton) and the dot he XAllowEvent thing... but not just the mouse

Re: Capturing events from the root window

2003-10-29 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:17:30 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this has issues all of its own. first. other peoples windows need to get the correct event at the correct location and time - which now won't be right as windows may have been destroyed, created, shown

Re: Capturing events from the root window

2003-10-28 Thread Gerhard W. Gruber
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:53:39 +0100, Robert Woerle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it should work with XSendEvent shoudlnt it ?? I don't know. From what you told me I looked agina in the manuals and it sounds like it should, but it doesn't. Below is the code that I use in my small test programm. It