[Xpert] RE: sis620 (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM*****)

2003-01-09 Thread Alexander Stohr
Title: RE: sis620 (was: [Xpert]*SPAM*) have you already tried updating to XFree86 4.2.0 and then running as root the xf86config program? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 14:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

[Xpert] Re: sis620 X (was Re: [Xpert]*****SPAM*****)

2003-01-04 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
The 620 is - as regards the VGA part - compatible to the 530. As far as I know, the 530 (thus the 620) were supported by 4.1 already. 4.3 will bring many enhancements, among others Xv for these old chips. Thomas Andy Isaacson wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 08:28:05AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2002-12-30 Thread John Gay
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2002-12-29 Thread sky
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Re: sis620 X (was Re: [Xpert]*****SPAM*****)

2002-12-29 Thread Andy Isaacson
On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 08:28:05AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SPAM: NO_REAL_NAME (-0.3 points) From: does not include a real name You should configure your software to have a real name in the mail headers, and include a useful subject on further mailing list posts. This would help you

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2002-12-29 Thread Kun Cheng
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2002-12-25 Thread Andy Isaacson
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2002-12-24 Thread Kun Cheng
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2002-12-23 Thread John Gay
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2002-12-18 Thread John Gay
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2002-12-12 Thread Kjetil Torgrim Homme
[Luca Olivetti]: Ed Anuff wrote: SPAM: RCVD_IN_RELAYS_ORDB_ORG (0.6 points) RBL: Received via a relay in relays.ordb.org SPAM:[RBL check: found 5.226.180.66.relays.ordb.org.] $ telnet 66.180.226.5 smtp Trying 66.180.226.5... Connected to

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2002-12-12 Thread Luca Olivetti
Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote: Confirmed once more: black lists are unreliable, useless against spam and harmful to legitimate email. don't be naive. my own email server was listed in ORDB since it allowed user%domain@mydomain@ duh $ telnet 66.180.226.5 smtp Trying 66.180.226.5...

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2002-12-12 Thread Luca Olivetti
Luca Olivetti wrote: Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote: Confirmed once more: black lists are unreliable, useless against spam and harmful to legitimate email. don't be naive. my own email server was listed in ORDB since it allowed user%domain@mydomain@ duh I take my words back:

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extractinga KeySym from an action routine)

2002-12-03 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, James Hawtin wrote: Could it be setup so subscribed users never be counted as spam? Just in case the RBL is wrong. Sounds like a good idea (although some spammers will just subscribe). However I can't see a way of stopping a spammer from sending mail as a subscriber,

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2002-12-02 Thread Herman Buel
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2002-12-02 Thread Bruce M Beach
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Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extracting a KeySym from an action routine)

2002-12-02 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 11:26:35AM -0800, Keith Packard wrote: We might disable the RBL based rules in flagging spam; they do seem to have a rather high false-positive rate. Whether it's appropriate for the xpert list to partipcate in the social pressure aspect of DNSBLs (RBL is a trademark

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extractinga KeySym from an action routine)

2002-12-02 Thread James Hawtin
Could it be setup so subscribed users never be counted as spam? Just in case the RBL is wrong. James ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extractinga KeySym from an action routine)

2002-12-01 Thread James Hawtin
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spam only works because its one-to-many. Forcing a confirmation requires many-to-one and will collapse a spam server (or be ignored, either way you win). In addition, adding a two-way element avoids all the ethical issues of blacklists. If

RE: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extracting a KeySym from an action routine)

2002-12-01 Thread Alexander Stohr
Title: RE: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*SPAM* Extracting a KeySym from an action routine) Then why not simply use an email confirmation like is used for verifying subscription and then cache the address for n days (where n is 30 or so) if the response comes back

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extractinga KeySym from an action routine)

2002-11-30 Thread bsder
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, David Dawes wrote: I'm not particularly interested in using these lists to apply social pressure. I'm only interested in a mechanism that provides an acceptably low level of spam without imposing subscriber-only posting restrictions. Then why not simply use an email

RE: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extracting a KeySym from an action routine)

2002-11-27 Thread Alexander Stohr
Title: RE: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*SPAM* Extracting a KeySym from an action routine) Sorry, the ends don't justify the means. False positives punish the ISP customer, who still has to pay her monthly/weekly/per-byte fees, whether the ISP fixes the problem or not. I

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extracting a KeySym from an action routine)

2002-11-27 Thread Markus Gutschke
Alexander Stohr wrote: a moderated spam filter would be nicest, but this means that someone has permanent duty for letting falsely blocked mail pass, This is not quite true. I can envision a system that automatically quarantines (rather than discarding) suspected spam. It would then send

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2002-11-26 Thread Bruce M Beach
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[OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extracting a KeySym from an action routine)

2002-11-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 09:56:56PM +, Bruce M Beach wrote: SPAM: Start SpamAssassin results -- SPAM: This mail is probably spam. The original message has been altered SPAM: so you can recognise or block similar unwanted mail in future. SPAM: See

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extracting a KeySym from an action routine)

2002-11-26 Thread David Dawes
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 01:45:30PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Hmm, so we have 3 pieces of evidence that it isn't spam, four that it is (all of which are from blacklists), the blacklist scores were enough to get the message scored as spam, and yet it wasn't spam. Are we sure we want to be

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extracting a KeySym from an action routine)

2002-11-26 Thread Keith Packard
Around 14 o'clock on Nov 26, David Dawes wrote: All I can really say so far without having analysed the data is that the number of false positives has been relatively small compared to the number of valid positives. I need to assess now many valid positives were attributable to the RBL

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extracting a KeySym from an action routine)

2002-11-26 Thread David Dawes
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 11:26:35AM -0800, Keith Packard wrote: Around 14 o'clock on Nov 26, David Dawes wrote: All I can really say so far without having analysed the data is that the number of false positives has been relatively small compared to the number of valid positives. I need to

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extractinga KeySym from an action routine)

2002-11-26 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na David Dawes ha escrit: All I can really say so far without having analysed the data is that the number of false positives has been relatively small compared to Zero false positives is the only acceptable result, if you're using it to discard email. You won't get that with any of

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extracting a KeySym from an action routine)

2002-11-26 Thread xpert
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 11:26:35AM -0800, Keith Packard wrote: We might disable the RBL based rules in flagging spam; they do seem to have a rather high false-positive rate. Whether it's appropriate for the xpert list to partipcate in the social pressure aspect of DNSBLs (RBL is a trademark

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extractinga KeySym from an action routine)

2002-11-26 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha escrit: should/could be to deal with the spam problem? Or perhaps the sending IP is a subscriber IP of some sort. They should be using their ISP assigned mail exchanger. Just because some antispam nazi says so? No thank you, I'm perfectly capable to manage my mail

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM*****Extracting a KeySym from an action routine)

2002-11-26 Thread Scott Long
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 21:30:51 +0100 Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En/na David Dawes ha escrit: All I can really say so far without having analysed the data is that the number of false positives has been relatively small compared to Zero false positives is the only acceptable

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extracting a KeySym from an action routine)

2002-11-26 Thread kwall
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 11:00:16PM +, John Tapsell wrote: well, if it works - then good! Hopefully it will piss off the customers enough that they'll go to another isp, or the isp will sort it out. If a customer cares enough about his email, he'll use a more ethical isp. [veering

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extracting a KeySym from an action routine)

2002-11-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 11:00:16PM +, John Tapsell wrote: well, if it works - then good! Hopefully it will piss off the customers enough that they'll go to another isp, or the isp will sort it out. If a customer cares enough about his email, he'll use a more ethical isp. Wow, you live

Re: [OFFTOPIC] spam scoring (was: [Xpert]*****SPAM***** Extracting a KeySym from an action routine)

2002-11-26 Thread David Dawes
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 04:39:11PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 11:26:35AM -0800, Keith Packard wrote: We might disable the RBL based rules in flagging spam; they do seem to have a rather high false-positive rate. Whether it's appropriate for the xpert list to

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2002-11-25 Thread Hua zhang
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2002-11-25 Thread Hua zhang
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Could XFree86's anti-spam filter be a little trigger happy? Re: [Xpert]*****SPAM*****GDI functions

2002-11-25 Thread David D. Hagood
I think XFree's spam assasin filter might just be a bit trigger happy - I decoded the attached message and it is a valid question for XFree. Hua zhang, if you are reading this - set your mailer to generate plain text, rather than MIME encoding it. That should get your below the thresholds.

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2002-11-25 Thread Hua zhang
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2002-11-25 Thread Hua zhang
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2002-10-16 Thread Granville Phillips
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