Hi list,
I was almost ready to start writing my own bookmark manager last year
when I was introduced to del.icio.us - how fortunate for me! It
provides an easier-to-use interface than I'd envisioned, which is a
major point in its favor.
However, it lacks a few key features which I think would
Joshua Schachter wrote:
1. Title extension. In my own link collection, I like to expand upon
the title a bit as a memory-jogger for myself, perhaps incorporating
This is why the title is editable.
But then the original title is not preserved. Just because the reader
thinks he can improve
Joshua Schachter wrote:
Perhaps I we should just let people star items? It'd certainly be a
simpler UI... I've always been against it, though; why bookmark a bad
item? I dunno.
Not good-vs-bad, but good-vs-great.
Or a 1-2-3 rating, where 1 is your standard good enough to bookmark, 2
is if
ivan santiesteban wrote:
This has been interesting. I like Timothy's push for more automatic
tags. We already have system:filetype:, so it's not something entirely
new.
As microformats grow these things could work really well for specific
uses.
I think the only things you have to
Vinay Augustine wrote:
I'm not sure how useful metadata is. I mean, metadata that's important
to you (like the webpage URL) isn't important to me at all.
How does Joshua decide which pieces of metadata to include?
Certain metadata are nearly universal of any resource you'd look up.
Just for
James Miskiewicz wrote:
I think Tim may have inadvertently stepped into a previous discussion;
I skimmed a couple months of archives before I jumped in but didn't
notice anything. My apologies if I'm trodding all over a core Delicious
philosophy here.
it's been said in the past that Joshua
Larson, Timothy E. wrote:
I mentioned the meta name=author tag. Not widely used, but it's
there, at least for HTML. If a service like Delicious started to make
use of it, it could drive more people to use it correctly. All the
people who have been thoughtfully including such metadata
John Sullivan wrote:
I really don't want every page I tag that happens to be hosted on a
university's server to be tagged with the name of the university even
though it has nothing to do with the university. Neither do I want
every geocities page or blogger page to be tagged with geocities or
Chris Lott wrote:
I'm not into autotagging either, but the function of seeing all links
I have from a domain could be interesting. Where in the UI it would
belong, or if it could just be a search function or maybe a
greasemonkey extension... I don't know.
If I have dozens or hundreds of
Chris Lott wrote:
but it seems much better handled by search (efficient) than paging
through a list of links to get to the middle of the alphabet!
_If_ you happen to be one of those people that intuitively uses
searches. Not everyone is. Some people see a list, that's supposed to
contain
Mislav wrote:
Oh, please don't migrate this to a yahoo group! I'm a member of
several and I simply can't stand all the advertising appended to each
e-mail... in large discussions with quoting it creates noise bigger
than the discussion itself :(
Surely there is a solution to maintaining
joshua wrote:
There's absolutely zero chance of that one. Any other ideas? We have
to migrate off the hardware that is running the list in the next few
weeks, unfortunately.
What are people's objections to a Yahoo list? I can think of two:
1. Advertising spam appended to messages.
2.
Michael Stillwell wrote:
On 24/02/06, Joshua Schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We're working privacy and groups right now -- finally getting ahead
of the growth curve in terms of hardware so we have someplace to redo
schemas and all that.
Excellent! Will this make it possible for e.g.
Mislav wrote:
In addition, a hypen character can't be an operator (yahoo-software)
because tons of people are using it for phrases (e-book programming
to-read).
That's not the end of the world. You'd have to convert them all to
underscores, or camelCased, or something, and email the users
W.B. McNamara wrote:
It does if you click on the + sign itself rather than the term. I do
this all the time myself.
That's a good usability point. Half the time I do this, too,
basically seeing the + foo as a single unit rather than a + and a
foo, no matter how many times I make the
Joshua Schachter wrote:
i dunno. i think it makes everything very complicated. how would the
relevance affect anything other than notation?
maybe there needs to be a to distinguish this is a url i wanted to
save vs this is a GREAT url i wanted to save
How 'bout a GM script that
Daniel Sandbecker wrote:
It would make some sense for del.icio.us to have a recommended best
practice on this. See
http://www.dlib.org/dlib/january06/guy/01guy.html (D-Lib Magazine).
That's not a bad idea - the uniformity would definitely make the
aggregated use of tags easier - but it
Larson, Timothy E. wrote:
W.B. McNamara wrote:
It does if you click on the + sign itself rather than the term. I do
this all the time myself.
That's a good usability point. Half the time I do this, too,
basically seeing the + foo as a single unit rather than a + and a
foo, no matter how
Lindsay Donaghe wrote:
Could you please have the max length set on text box that you can type
the description in so that you don't type a whole paragraph and then
find it truncated when you look at your saved link? I end up with
that happening all the time and it would be really easy to
Lindsay Donaghe wrote:
Well, people do use del.icio.us in different ways. Maybe a lot (or
Agreed, they do indeed.
even most) people don't write long comments or comments at all, but
others do. I think the people who do use the comments feature
contribute a good bit to the del.icio.us
Lindsay Donaghe wrote:
I agree, there are things that I'd like to see in del.icio.us that
will probably never happen. I think I remember your discussion
before, Timothy about additional fields. Personally, I prefer the way
that Furl handles it where you have a field for comments, a field for
Joshua Schachter wrote:
The main problems with more fields is that a) it scares the bejeezus
out of most users, as empty fields are things that MUST be filled to
continue, or they are stressed, and b) we need to continue to work on
the database for storing this kind of stuff (which will happen
Chris Lott wrote:
I agree that I don't want to see del go the route of having too many
fields to fill in. Even when they are optional they have a stifling
kind of effect.
If they are hidden unless you choose to see them, how are they going to
stifle anything? Most computer users stick with
David wrote:
Here's one feature I would find handy: a setting for opening links in
a new window (or tab, depending upon your browser setting).
I set this preference on Google all the time. That way, when I click
on links, the new page opens in a new tab and I don't have to
backtrack
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and how should we go about loging into that new fancy yahoo thingy?
it asks for a yahoo id...
i tried my delicious id/password but it doesn't like it. do i really
need to create yet another account to edit my [EMAIL PROTECTED] options?
I gotta agree, and I think
rikmaes wrote:
Is there any way to check the links in delicious on their actual
existence?
I'd love it if links were automatically crawled somehow, with expired
links flagged with a CSS class like expired or dead so that they
displayed differently. If they reappear later the flag could be
Michael Wiik wrote:
I would unsubscribe but want to retain [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't
know why I started getting ydn-delicious email. What's up???
Last Monday (Apr 17) morning, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote...
Hello discuss@del.icio.us subscribers,
On Monday morning, at approximately 10AM
NM Public wrote:
A possible solution to this problem, which I agree is a problem,
is to put a mini icon next to links that often launch external
apps, e.g., on my sites, I use:
protocol or mimetype icon
mailto: envelope
nntp: or news: 2 envelopes
feed: .))
Red Robin wrote:
When I go into my bookmarks page at del.icio.us, I see the name of the
site on one line fpllpwed by the tags I used to store it. Is there
anyway another line can be added to show the URL?
Maybe hover over the link. There are also browsers that can show a list
of all links
rikmaes wrote:
An old problem, yet still without answer. It would be extremely useful
to have the opportunity to check the links of all your del.icio.us
bookmarks on their availability. My own experience is that older
entries in del.icio.us deteriorate due to this phenomenon.
Is there
Joshua Schachter wrote:
All kinds of subtlety here. For example, what to do if the site
happens to be down while we check it? What about respecting robots.txt
etc?
I don't think there's too much subtlety involved. Obviously (to me),
robots.txt needs to be respected. Those links will simply
Britta wrote:
I know I'm repeating myself, but I believe that dead-link checking is
perfect as a third-party service. A rather small percentage of
del.icio.us users cares about checking for dead links, so if you're a
user who does, why not use http://peerfactor.fr/testmarks/, or make
your own
Chris Lott wrote:
I'd like a way to change the date of a post (or reset it to today if
nothing else)-- in feeds I use for classes I like to highlight some
basic resources early on-- but they get obscured by all the later
posts. Short of deleting and relinking, it would be nice to be able to
Chris Lott wrote:
On the front of my blog I list the most recent books I plan to read,
am reading, and have read, using the tags ToRead, NowReading, and
DidRead. The problem is that when I change a book from ToRead to
NowReading or DidRead, since the date doesn't change, it doesn't show
up in
Amir Michail wrote:
* when entering a bookmark, you supply not only tags but also virtual
inlinks and virtual outlinks; for example, when bookmarking
TeXmacs, you might supply LyX as a virtual inlink and several TeXmacs
resources pages as virtual outlinks.
[snip]
If simply having pre- and
Britta wrote:
I have a star system:
http://del.icio.us/britta/%E2%98%85
When a website catches my interest to the point of obliterating
everything else in the world while I read it, I give it a unicode-star
tag. I bookmark lots of stuff - most of it is just interesting, and
some of it is
John Remmers wrote:
A personal star system is good for labeling your personal favorites,
but not so good for finding what other people consider to be their
favorites. For favorites-sharing, you need a standardized way of
doing it.
If the online documentation were to mention a few of these
mfeher00 wrote:
Also, one final question - I like the idea of tags but it REALLY sucks
that you can't use the hierarchical (nested) method of topical
subfolders like I used to do, and tags look retarded like
CharlieParker or joesatriani. Does anyone have any creative ways
around these
I recently started using bundles to organize my tags, and love it.
However, they'd be most useful when I'm on the screen adding a new link
so I can find what I'm looking for more easily. Why are they only
displayed in one big blob on the edit page? I've set up my bundles such
that they represent
Michael wrote:
A feature request for the next del.icio.us version..
Have the option/setting for If I click on one of my bookmarks, open
the link in a new window
Browsers have this built in. Usually you can just ctrl-click or
shift-click or something.
Tim
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West Corporation,
AFAICT, these are all implemented browser-side. If you want these
things, use a browser that does them. I am perfectly happy using del
with Firefox, Opera, and Camino and the features they provide. We don't
need del to try to reimplement browser-side features with clever
tricks for users that
magnoliasoutherly wrote:
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mailto:ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com , Larson, Timothy E.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael wrote:
Have the option/setting for If I click on one of my bookmarks, open
the link in a new window
Browsers have this built
Larson, Timothy E. wrote:
I recently started using bundles to organize my tags, and love it.
However, they'd be most useful when I'm on the screen adding a new
link so I can find what I'm looking for more easily. Why are they
only displayed in one big blob on the edit page? I've set up my
magnoliasoutherly wrote:
If me, then I hate to say it, but no. These features I'm requesting
are not available or do not work with other extensions. I use Firefox
and because I'm using a Delicious Firefox extension that Delicious has
made themselves, I'm requesting features for this extension.
Chris Lott wrote:
I've been using the uri:asin:xxx tag assuming that sometime in the
future it might enable some interesting auto-linking stuff. And even
if it doesn't, I need some kind of convention for tags used when I
pull feeds elsewhere. Similarly, I 'd like to use something like:
Hamish MacEwan wrote:
Hierarchical structures of folders are a straitjacket, based on a
place for everything and everything in its place. In fact its more
like one and only one place for anything. But if you enjoy the
results you can have them in del.icio.us by tagging with the folder
names
Marcelo Wolfgang wrote:
That's where the tagging system of del.icio.us comes in handy.
You could tag the link as judaism and christianity and the link will
be show under the two hierarchy, so you will always found it's place.
Precisely!
Think of the tags as folders, you can delimit them (
On any of my bookmark pages, the bit that says saved by X other people
is shaded with red, darker the more people have also saved it. This has
the effect of making the light blue text completely unreadable for
popular pages. Can you please change this from a background color to a
border, or some
I was looking around some of the other social bookmarking sites and
noticed that Simpy has the ability to store an alternative title. This
allows the original title to be saved in its original form while still
providing the user the ability to have a custom title of their own. I
think this is a
sonja_ausland wrote:
do I miss something or is this really not possible at the moment:
if I add the tags vacation and 2006 to many bookmarks and only
vacation (without 2006) to 2 bookmarks - how to find these 2?
What I wanted to do is: click on vacation and then *exclude* 2006
from related
Alexander Skwar wrote:
Does somebody know of a link check service for del.icio.us?
I'd like to have it check all of my bookmarks, and if the bookmark is
not available anymore, it should either remove it directly from my
collection, or, maybe even better, it should tag it with some tag
(like
Michael Feher wrote:
How about including a duplicate-link finder feature to help weed out
dupes?
I use the browser buttons for Delicious, and if I try to save a link I
already have, it is quite obvious. How do you get dupes?
Tim
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Tim Larson
InterCall, a subsidiary of West Corporation
Rocco Caputo wrote:
On May 8, 2007, at 14:49, Larson, Timothy E. wrote:
There is a plugin for Firefox (LinkChecker, appropriately enough),
which works well if you can get all the bookmarks you want to check
on
one page. You have to manually fix the del.icio.us entry, but it's a
cross-platform
Michael Feher wrote:
It's possible to have similar bookmarks (similar) addresses, prior to
adding them via delicious.
ex. www.something.com and http://www.something.com
http://www.something.com and http://something.com.
http://something.com. It happens.
Ahhh, I get you now. I guess
Would it be possible to change the style of class pop anchors (the
saved by X other people links) to use colored borders rather than
colored backgrounds? The dark backgrounds make the text completely
illegible because there's not enough contrast.
Tim
--
Tim Larson
InterCall, a subsidiary of
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
My main concern about tools like disastrous is that popular links,
bookmarked by N persons, will be checked N times...
Precisely why it would be very nice if Yahoo/Delicious did centralized
link checking...much less bandwidth being used overall. Since Yahoo is
Andrew Wooster wrote:
I just noticed that del.icio.us now has accesskeys set for the
earlier/later links. earlier is now bound to ctrl+e, and later is now
bound to ctrl+l.
I see it's using rel=prev/next links as well. Very nice.
Sadly, this means that when editing text with Safari in any
Sergio Nunes wrote:
While navigating through my bookmarks, I found myself thinking that
some form of regular expressions for tag selection would greatly
improve my filtering. For example, I use qualifiers in several tags
(e.g.: date:2007, date:200701, recipe:fish, ...) It would be great to
be
Alexander Skwar wrote:
L Ellis schrieb:
Is there a website/RSS service that will consume the del.icio.us feed
and then give you a new URL for the sorted feed?
This sounds like a good task for Yahoo! Pipes -
http://pipes.yahoo.com/. http://pipes.yahoo.com/.
Neat idea. That would
Joshua Schachter wrote:
It's a huge overhaul on the backend (this time architected by people
who aren't me, which is probably good) plus a frontend redesign (some
new styling, plus the opportunity to get rid of the impacted css and
javascript crud.)
Infrastructure updates are never
selune13 wrote:
Yes, I do use bundles, but for bundles, you can only put your tags
under one bundle and no other. This makes it more complicated when,
for instance, I have adult patterns and adult content sites. I
can't put the tag adult under the Patterns bundle because I'll be
lumping in
Jerry Krinock wrote:
I understand. My favorite case is Fruits.Apple vs.
Computers.Apple. Sometimes you need a hierarchical structure.
At least Apple Computer was thoughtful enough to mis-spell their
Macintosh to avoid crosstalk with the McIntosh apple fruits :))
Doesn't everyone tag
I pulled up my only for:user tag, and though it said listing all 5
items there was only 1.
Tim
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Tim LarsonAMT2 Unix Systems Administrator
InterCall, a division of West Corporation
Eschew obfuscation!
Nancy McGough wrote:
I just looked at all my browsers
(Camino, OmniWeb, SeaMonkey, Safari, Shiira, Sunrise,
Opera) and they all use the word Bookmark. I wonder if the word
Favorite is an MS-Windows thing? Very interesting.
If you go wy back in time, back to the First Browser War, back
Andrew Black wrote:
ace_noone wrote:
I understand (and agree) that case should not make a difference when
browsing tags - but it can make visualizing the list of tags much
easier.
Funnily enough, I was discussing a similar issue with Flickr this
evening. I find it useful to enter long
stephenbungert wrote:
Not many people seem to bundle tags. I try and keep every tag in a
bundle.
[...]
How do you try and organise your bookmarks? Do you use bundles? Or do
you just tag like crazy and then hope you remember what tags you used,
or hope that delicious search will find them
Tim Regan wrote:
in how a group might use del.icio.us? I think one straightforward way
would be for the team to choose a tag and each member use that tag
when posting links that would be of interest to the whole team. But
this is open to pollution if other del.icio.us members start using the
Tim Regn wrote:
Thanks Tim. Do the pages tagged for:SomeoneElse show up in
SomeoneElse's tag cloud automagically; or do they have to log in to
approve them?
What Britta said. :) That's a better explanation than mine.
Tim
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Tim LarsonAMT2 Unix Systems Administrator
bruins1961 wrote:
I found a thread on this back in Sep/Oct 2007 but nothing newer. Is
there going to be a way to incorporate multiword tags using a space
delimiter? For example, I want some of my tags to be incident
response, computer forensics, data recovery. I guess I just am
too stubborn
Nathalie Vaiser wrote:
But, I think the search itself should be improved to perhaps give an
option of the default 'exact match' with a partial match option. As in
my example, if I tagged something as pleural and didn't remember I did
that (ie - Robots) and then I search for 'Robot' with no
If the Del bookmark saved the favicon URL and fetched the original, that may
be a privacy concern. But if Del instead cached favicons and served these
instead, I think the privacy concerns are eliminated.
Tim
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InterCall, a division of
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