Re: Yet another mostly happy user

[Carlton Gibson]

On 5 May 2008, at 18:00, Luis Roca wrote:


Carlton,
You've inspired me. I'm planning a trip to the
Bronx Zoo in the next few weeks. : )



Glad to be of service. Have fun! :-)

C

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Re: Yet another mostly happy user

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On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Luis Roca
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  You're definitely not alone in your hesitance to use tags. David said
>  this weekend that humans are spacial thinkers. Which is why stuffing
>  things into an established hierarchy makes more sense than tags. While
>  it's true that - some - people are spacial thinkers, there are also
>  people who are relational, oral, experiential, and a number of other
>  types of thinkers.

Of course, even being a "spatial thinker" can mean a lot of things. I
consider myself in that category, but I love tags - I visualise tagged
items as objects in Venn diagram sets.

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Re: Yet another mostly happy user

[Luis Roca]

Scott M.
I have to say your use of Yojimbo as an everyday GTD tool is pretty
impressive. Just the ambition to try and use it that way is impressive.
I don’t really see that as the purpose of Yojimbo. (It’s really just
considered an archival application.) That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be
used to do other creative things. I just find that using it as a central
GTD application can be difficult at best. I also don’t think very highly
of the majority of project planner/GTD applications so take that into
consideration.

I read and re-read your post. I find your system impressive but very
confusing to me. (Which is ok because it’s YOUR system. As long as it
works for you.) I’ve never been fully comfortable with the directory
method of organizing information. The reason I was so drawn to Yojimbo
was because it thinks the way I do. (In a much more contextual manner.)

You’re definitely not alone in your hesitance to use tags. David said
this weekend that humans are spacial thinkers. Which is why stuffing
things into an established hierarchy makes more sense than tags. While
it’s true that - some - people are spacial thinkers, there are also
people who are relational, oral, experiential, and a number of other
types of thinkers.

Tags, tag collections, smart folders, labels, and comments all offer the
ability to create multiple contexts and I really like that. That’s how
Yojimbo was designed to organize information. I realize it’s not for
everyone (apparently not the spacial thinkers) but they have a whole lot
of options out there to suit there needs perfectly well.

Carlton,
You've inspired me. I'm planning a trip to the 
Bronx Zoo in the next few weeks. : )

Luis


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Re: Yet another mostly happy user

[Claude]

Very interesting : thanks ! I love tags... but I still need to SEE all  
my files in folders (like in ancient times...) But I never go further  
than one nested folder by main folder (sorry for my bad english, hope  
you will understand).

Claude


Le 5 mai 08 à 16:11, Steve Kalkwarf a écrit :

I agree completely with your mail. Sometimes I am afraid to forget  
some items because I don't remember all the tags' name. I really  
need tags and folders.
I try Eaglefiler (nested folders AND tags) : it tastes like  
Yojimbo, but it is not Yojimbo - but looks fine too.


I've seen several people mention that they are afraid if they forget  
a tag, they'll lose an item. I don't understand.


Both Tags and Collections are aids in retrieving items. They are not  
the only way to retreive an item: They provide additional context  
for the item so that you can find it more easily.


I typically search for the content or title of an item when I want  
to fetch a specific item.


I have a small number of Collections present that remind me there  
are things I need to work on, containing tagged and untagged items  
related to that task.


I have a slightly larger number of Tag Collections defined. I use  
these to A) visually group items together for a specific task, or B)  
invert a relationship so I can see things by their Tag instead of  
trying to remember all the items.


But most of my items just live in the Library. I hate organizing.

Steve




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Re: Yet another mostly happy user

[Steve Kalkwarf]

I agree completely with your mail. Sometimes I am afraid to 
forget some items because I don't remember all the tags' name. 
I really need tags and folders.
I try Eaglefiler (nested folders AND tags) : it tastes like 
Yojimbo, but it is not Yojimbo - but looks fine too.


I've seen several people mention that they are afraid if they 
forget a tag, they'll lose an item. I don't understand.


Both Tags and Collections are aids in retrieving items. They are 
not the only way to retreive an item: They provide additional 
context for the item so that you can find it more easily.


I typically search for the content or title of an item when I 
want to fetch a specific item.


I have a small number of Collections present that remind me 
there are things I need to work on, containing tagged and 
untagged items related to that task.


I have a slightly larger number of Tag Collections defined. I 
use these to A) visually group items together for a specific 
task, or B) invert a relationship so I can see things by their 
Tag instead of trying to remember all the items.


But most of my items just live in the Library. I hate organizing.

Steve



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Re: Yet another mostly happy user

[Claude]

I agree completely with your mail. Sometimes I am afraid to forget  
some items because I don't remember all the tags' name. I really need  
tags and folders.
I try Eaglefiler (nested folders AND tags) : it tastes like Yojimbo,  
but it is not Yojimbo - but looks fine too.

And I am still an almost happy user !

Claude


Le 5 mai 08 à 14:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

I'm another mostly happy Yojimbo user who would be even happier with  
nested folders. Well, that and being able to sync my notes to my  
iPhone -- hopefully that will come soon enough.

...


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