Re: [Zappa-List] Re: OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway?
The show you saw earlier in 77 must be the same one I am talking about below, Jim. I believe he only played UCLA twice that year. Too bad you can't remember much of that one - I recall it being a great show. Ahh, and those solos that you talk about - how well I remember those! That's something that I missed in later years. He seemed to play less and less guitar as time went on. John In a message dated 10/18/2005 6:14:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I saw him at UCLA as well on New Years Eve 77. I also saw him a month or so earlier but do to some over indulgence my memories are hazy of that one. The memory of the New Years Eve show is clear and lasting. I distinctly remember that Frank had his hair in a pony tail most of the time. Every now and then he would take it out and play an amazing solo. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 6:22 PMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway? I saw Frank with Beefhart in Clairmont, CA in '75 and then again at the LA Forum on New Years eve '75 - '76 (w/ separate sets by Dr. John and Beefhart - Todd Rundgren's Utopia was supposed to play but cancelled.) Then I saw the show at UCLA Pauley Pavillion in '77 and the Crush all Boxes Tour at Santa Monica Civic (81?). Would love to go back and relive those shows! John -Original Message-From: chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSent: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:13:10 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway? First shows were in Kansas City, 11-11-77 Uptown Theater. 2 shows in one night, the second is being vined somewhere. Wish I had the first show.Then saw Frank in Tulsa,Ok Brady Theater Oct 18 1980, 2 shows again in one night. Bald Headed John caught me taping the first show and crushed my tape in his hand then stepped on it.The next day he played in OK city and I taped it but it got lost! Then saw him again at the Brady in 1981. Then saw the Ok city 12-6-84 show which I vined out awhile ago. Was planning on Dallas 1988, but the tour was cancelled! Damn. ChrisNick Ullmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: saw Zappa in Stafford in UK mid seventies 74/75, the show wasn't sold out and zappa made no attempt at contact with the audience. Excellent technically but lacked soul, Kind Regards, nickOriginal Message FollowsFrom: "Glen Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comTo: Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway?Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:04:39 +0100 The first concert I ever went to was Frank at> Jones Beach New York, 1983,Looks like 16th August 84.I have this on cd somewhere (I think)..I'll dig it out later.Glen "Music is The Best!"Frank Zappa For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Well oow, I've emailed the collector who has this show in his trade list, asking what he needs in trade for it. I'll let you know his response as soon as I receive it. Regards, SOFA Sorry to raise the hopes.Over to SOFA,Glen For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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SOFA wrote If Glen can't find his, I may know someone else that has this show... I checked last night and I don't think I do have this show. It seems I was mixing it up with the Pier shows from 84 which I do have,and possibly a Costello show from Jones Beach 83 that I have. Sorry to raise the hopes. Over to SOFA, Glen Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/yXLolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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If Glen can't find his, I may know someone else that has this show... SOFA - Original Message - From: oowdafadumpta To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:08 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway? --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:>Yeah, thats it!!! August 16 1984,, and all these years I would have sworn it was 83. Nonetheless, great great show, excellent. I appreciate the info, this site is great, I really appreciate it!> Well, here's where you come in, oowdafadumpta (can I call you oow?)...> I can't find a record of FZ touring in 83 (besides one European show), or 86. Might you be able to figure out the actual dates of the shows you attended? Try checking http://home.swipnet.se/fzshows/FZShowsoverview.html or http://zappagigs.sytes.net/ for a memory assist.> If we have correct concert dates, we might be able to help you in your quest...> Regards,> SOFA For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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I saw him at UCLA as well on New Years Eve 77. I also saw him a month or so earlier but do to some over indulgence my memories are hazy of that one. The memory of the New Years Eve show is clear and lasting. I distinctly remember that Frank had his hair in a pony tail most of the time. Every now and then he would take it out and play an amazing solo. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 6:22 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway? I saw Frank with Beefhart in Clairmont, CA in '75 and then again at the LA Forum on New Years eve '75 - '76 (w/ separate sets by Dr. John and Beefhart - Todd Rundgren's Utopia was supposed to play but cancelled.) Then I saw the show at UCLA Pauley Pavillion in '77 and the Crush all Boxes Tour at Santa Monica Civic (81?). Would love to go back and relive those shows! John -Original Message- From: chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway? First shows were in Kansas City, 11-11-77 Uptown Theater. 2 shows in one night, the second is being vined somewhere. Wish I had the first show.Then saw Frank in Tulsa,Ok Brady Theater Oct 18 1980, 2 shows again in one night. Bald Headed John caught me taping the first show and crushed my tape in his hand then stepped on it.The next day he played in OK city and I taped it but it got lost! Then saw him again at the Brady in 1981. Then saw the Ok city 12-6-84 show which I vined out awhile ago. Was planning on Dallas 1988, but the tour was cancelled! Damn. Chris Nick Ullmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: saw Zappa in Stafford in UK mid seventies 74/75, the show wasn't sold out and zappa made no attempt at contact with the audience. Excellent technically but lacked soul, Kind Regards, nick Original Message Follows From: "Glen Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com To: Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway? Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:04:39 +0100 The first concert I ever went to was Frank at > Jones Beach New York, 1983, Looks like 16th August 84. I have this on cd somewhere (I think)..I'll dig it out later. Glen "Music is The Best!" Frank Zappa Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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I saw Frank with Beefhart in Clairmont, CA in '75 and then again at the LA Forum on New Years eve '75 - '76 (w/ separate sets by Dr. John and Beefhart - Todd Rundgren's Utopia was supposed to play but cancelled.) Then I saw the show at UCLA Pauley Pavillion in '77 and the Crush all Boxes Tour at Santa Monica Civic (81?). Would love to go back and relive those shows! John -Original Message-From: chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSent: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:13:10 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway? First shows were in Kansas City, 11-11-77 Uptown Theater. 2 shows in one night, the second is being vined somewhere. Wish I had the first show.Then saw Frank in Tulsa,Ok Brady Theater Oct 18 1980, 2 shows again in one night. Bald Headed John caught me taping the first show and crushed my tape in his hand then stepped on it.The next day he played in OK city and I taped it but it got lost! Then saw him again at the Brady in 1981. Then saw the Ok city 12-6-84 show which I vined out awhile ago. Was planning on Dallas 1988, but the tour was cancelled! Damn. ChrisNick Ullmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: saw Zappa in Stafford in UK mid seventies 74/75, the show wasn't sold out and zappa made no attempt at contact with the audience. Excellent technically but lacked soul, Kind Regards, nickOriginal Message FollowsFrom: "Glen Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comTo: Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway?Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:04:39 +0100 The first concert I ever went to was Frank at> Jones Beach New York, 1983,Looks like 16th August 84.I have this on cd somewhere (I think)..I'll dig it out later.Glen"Music is The Best!"Frank Zappa Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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First shows were in Kansas City, 11-11-77 Uptown Theater. 2 shows in one night, the second is being vined somewhere. Wish I had the first show.Then saw Frank in Tulsa,Ok Brady Theater Oct 18 1980, 2 shows again in one night. Bald Headed John caught me taping the first show and crushed my tape in his hand then stepped on it.The next day he played in OK city and I taped it but it got lost! Then saw him again at the Brady in 1981. Then saw the Ok city 12-6-84 show which I vined out awhile ago. Was planning on Dallas 1988, but the tour was cancelled! Damn. ChrisNick Ullmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: saw Zappa in Stafford in UK mid seventies 74/75, the show wasn't sold out and zappa made no attempt at contact with the audience. Excellent technically but lacked soul, Kind Regards, nickOriginal Message FollowsFrom: "Glen Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comTo: Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway?Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:04:39 +0100 The first concert I ever went to was Frank at> Jones Beach New York, 1983,Looks like 16th August 84.I have this on cd somewhere (I think)..I'll dig it out later.Glen"Music is The Best!" Frank Zappa Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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saw Zappa in Stafford in UK mid seventies 74/75, the show wasn't sold out and zappa made no attempt at contact with the audience. Excellent technically but lacked soul, Kind Regards, nick Original Message Follows From: "Glen Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com To: Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway? Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:04:39 +0100 The first concert I ever went to was Frank at > Jones Beach New York, 1983, Looks like 16th August 84. I have this on cd somewhere (I think)..I'll dig it out later. Glen Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Life without art & music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iuUuID/dnQLAA/n1hLAA/yXLolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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The first concert I ever went to was Frank at > Jones Beach New York, 1983, Looks like 16th August 84. I have this on cd somewhere (I think)..I'll dig it out later. Glen Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Life without art & music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iuUuID/dnQLAA/n1hLAA/yXLolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway?
Well, here's where you come in, oowdafadumpta (can I call you oow?)... I can't find a record of FZ touring in 83 (besides one European show), or 86. Might you be able to figure out the actual dates of the shows you attended? Try checking http://home.swipnet.se/fzshows/FZShowsoverview.html or http://zappagigs.sytes.net/ for a memory assist. If we have correct concert dates, we might be able to help you in your quest... Regards, SOFA - Original Message - From: oowdafadumpta To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:18 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway? --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Jim L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:Yeah,, saw him three times. The first concert I ever went to was Frank at Jones Beach New York, 1983, to this day still the best concert I ever saw. Then I saw him at Stoney Brook College on Long Island in 1984, then at the Nassau Collesium in 1986. Im hoping to find ANYTHING from that Jones Beach show. I had a mini disk with Watermelon In Easter Hay on it from that show, and now I cant find it anywhere and its killing me. If there is a way to get any of that Jones Beach stuff I would g r e a t l y appreciate it. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Well yes it does seem like the bulk of the mail is about vines anymore. Vines are of course the sharing of the live performances (primarily) of which there are so many. FZ is said to have recorded most every performance and the ones that where never officially released are now circulating among the fans. Music is the best after all. I've found that there is a lot of knowledge available here about FZ however and one needs only to ask. With FZ having been gone for several years now it's probably all been said a few times. Some on this list have been here for years as well and might feel that everything has been discussed. Sometimes it just takes some new blood to get things going again so ask away. Or tell us about yourself. Did you get a chance to see Zappa perform much? Jim L -Original Message- From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of oowdafadumpta Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:08 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway? --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Jim L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, basically, I see alot of messages that talk about vines and things, some message about a guy whose name isnt "chee", but not too much Frank Zappa stuff. Im just way out of the message board loop, gotta get into the swing of things. Thanks > What stuff do you mean? Are you referring to all the vine messages in > general? I'd be hapy to explain whatever it is you're wondering about. > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/files/%2A%2A%20FAQ%20%2A%2A/ > Also you might find an answer here in the faq. > > Jim L > -Original Message- > From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of oowdafadumpta > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 6:32 PM > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Zappa-List] OK,, what does all this stuff mean anyway? > > Obviously Im not tech savvy at all, > > > > > > > For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or > http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. > Yahoo! Groups Links > For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Life without art & music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iuUuID/dnQLAA/n1hLAA/yXLolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/