Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Yep! I can relate to that. I recently read again (after about a 15 year absence!!), "The Simulacra" and I was quite astonished/knocked-back by its insights/prescience. And, yes, "Radio Free Albemouth" is a great novel, especialy as - IF I recall correctly - PKD 'assimilates' his experince of being monitored/investigated by the 'dark forces' of the FBI/CIA. PKD, in the lates 1960s, attended a few meetings of the Communist Party of the United States of America, which was enjoying a mini-renaissance under the 'fire' of people like Angela Davies (especally in California, PKD's base). He eventually 'drifted' away, but was classified as a Communist Party sympathiser/'fellow-traveller, and 'monitored' day and night' by YOU-KNOW-WHO. At one stage, it was fairly clear that PKD's phone was being TAPPED by the FBI/CIA, but almost everybody - understandably in some ways, given his drugs-intake - dismissed him for being 'paranoid'. We now know, of course, and it has been since 'officially' confessed, that his phone WAS tapped by the FBI/CIA, and his apartment WAS broken into, and burgled, by FBI/CIA shits looking for 'subversive/communist' material. Meanwhile, back in Florida ... DANNY"mr. and mrs. skull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Life in America has been frighteningly reminiscent of MANY PKD novel's for sometime. I just read "The Simulacra" not too long ago and that was also a scary parallel of life in this country. Same with "Radio Free Albemuth". Darrell "Philip K Dick's The man in the high castle ...?" For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Libertarian is the only way I've ever voted. But of course i'm always hassled for "wasting my vote". Considering all of the shenanigans in the last and now current "election" that seems pretty meaningless. Darrell Are any of you guy's aware of the Libertarian party? They've been working for years to try to get people into the congress and even more local positions. The idea being that by the time they might actually get a presidential candidate elected he will have some support to get things done. They have of course been fighting a very entrenched two party system the whole way with only minimal success. http://www.lp.org/ They are to the Republicans what Nader is to the Democrats. They are saying their guy (Badnerik) will make the difference in New Mexico giving the win to Kerry. I find most of their positions easier to endorse than ether of the two big parties. To me they take what's best from both and leave out what's wrong with both. Like Nader they don't have a hope in hell in the presidential election of course. Jim L For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Life in America has been frighteningly reminiscent of MANY PKD novel's for sometime. I just read "The Simulacra" not too long ago and that was also a scary parallel of life in this country. Same with "Radio Free Albemuth". Darrell "Philip K Dick's The man in the high castle ...?" For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Well I don't know all the details yet but the Democratic party is famous for committing voter fraud the old fashioned way. By that I mean registering whole cemeteries full of people to vote and so on. It was reported yesterday that one county had reached 104% voter registration with the vast majority of the newly registered being Democrats. (For anyone not familiar with American voter percentages that's a damn high percentage) My point is that now days when something like this is detected the guilty ones will usually cry voter suppression. I'm not saying the Repub's are innocent ether. I just read this article explaining a dirty trick one or more of them used that could be considered suppression of deadbeat voting. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=816&e=7&u=/ap/20041029/ap_on_el_pr/voter_scam The whole two party system is corrupt and needs an overhaul in my opinion. Are any of you guy's aware of the Libertarian party? They've been working for years to try to get people into the congress and even more local positions. The idea being that by the time they might actually get a presidential candidate elected he will have some support to get things done. They have of course been fighting a very entrenched two party system the whole way with only minimal success. http://www.lp.org/ They are to the Republicans what Nader is to the Democrats. They are saying their guy (Badnerik) will make the difference in New Mexico giving the win to Kerry. I find most of their positions easier to endorse than ether of the two big parties. To me they take what's best from both and leave out what's wrong with both. Like Nader they don't have a hope in hell in the presidential election of course. Jim L - Original Message - From: Danny ODare To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:45 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again -- snip --- I read yesterday that the Republican beast-machine in Michigan is engaged in a "voter suppression" operation, seeing how it is a 'swing' state. Obviously, by "suppresion" they mean preventing - by all sorts of foul and diabolical means - Blacks, Hispanics, lefties, Democrats, etc from voting at all. Maybe time to take to the lifeboats or escape pod, with your i-Pod of Zappa music? I mean, talking about life imitating art - has anybody read Philip Roth's The plot against America and Philip K Dick's The man in the high castle ...? Eyes staring into the abyss, DannyMark Darling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Noam Chomsky: "What the public wants is called politically unrealistic.Translated into English that means Power and Privilege are opposed to it."Mark> > > I'll admit I am a Nader supporter. I'd like to see America in the hands, or at> least with a figurehead that is a consumer advocate. I like to think he'd> continue to expose political and commercial corruption if elected, and I'd> love > to see Boosh impeached. Problem is Nader/Camejo's platform seems too> idealistic to most. The solution is there he'd just need to get the rest on> board, > which sadly would probably prove fruitless. I mean superficially, I certainly> don't make 50 grand a year and I'd appreciate a tax break. I'm on board with> nearly, if not all Nader has to say. I really wish your statement about voting> for > Nader wasn't true, but it probably is.> > "Revolutionaries always spoil corrupt systems" - indeed.> > -YH>For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Amen, brother, amen! Workers of the world unite and listen to Frank Zappa!! (and register to vote - even if there is no one to vote for in your zone of activities). I read yesterday that the Republican beast-machine in Michigan is engaged in a "voter suppression" operation, seeing how it is a 'swing' state. Obviously, by "suppresion" they mean preventing - by all sorts of foul and diabolical means - Blacks, Hispanics, lefties, Democrats, etc from voting at all. Maybe time to take to the lifeboats or escape pod, with your i-Pod of Zappa music? I mean, talking about life imitating art - has anybody read Philip Roth's The plot against America and Philip K Dick's The man in the high castle ...? Eyes staring into the abyss, DannyMark Darling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Noam Chomsky: "What the public wants is called politically unrealistic.Translated into English that means Power and Privilege are opposed to it."Mark> > > I'll admit I am a Nader supporter. I'd like to see America in the hands, or at> least with a figurehead that is a consumer advocate. I like to think he'd> continue to expose political and commercial corruption if elected, and I'd> love > to see Boosh impeached. Problem is Nader/Camejo's platform seems too> idealistic to most. The solution is there he'd just need to get the rest on> board, > which sadly would probably prove fruitless. I mean superficially, I certainly> don't make 50 grand a year and I'd appreciate a tax break. I'm on board with> nearly, if not all Nader has to say. I really wish your statement about voting> for > Nader wasn't true, but it probably is.> > "Revolutionaries always spoil corrupt systems" - indeed.> > -YH>For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
It's not his fault; he isn't helping though. On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:32:01 -0400, Mark Darling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Diebold will see to it that exactly that happens. Ever read about these > cretins? Scary! > Mark from Swing State Michigan > > What I want to know is what if bush does win by an actual majority in the > popular vote? > > > > For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or > http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~ESO~ "Hey you, White House HA-HA, charade you are!" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Could be rough. Legal challenges re going to be EVERYWHERE! I think it could be a good thing, though. A heightened awareness of elective procedure would benefit people. Seen Palast's report on black-vote suppression again in Florida and Ohio? Mark, Naderite > > I cannot take the polls seriously. Especially when you look at where > they are coming from... > > The really fucked up thing about this is we may not really know who > actually won for a few days to a week. Do not get your hopes up. I > have a feeling this is going to be worse than 2000. Of course I hope > not, but this administration will stop at nothing to win, and it won't > be fairly. > > > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:17:04 -0500, Jim L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again Diebold will see to it that exactly that happens. Ever read about these cretins? Scary! Mark from Swing State Michigan What I want to know is what if bush does win by an actual majority in the popular vote? For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Noam Chomsky: "What the public wants is called politically unrealistic. Translated into English that means Power and Privilege are opposed to it." Mark > > > I'll admit I am a Nader supporter. I'd like to see America in the hands, or at > least with a figurehead that is a consumer advocate. I like to think he'd > continue to expose political and commercial corruption if elected, and I'd > love > to see Boosh impeached. Problem is Nader/Camejo's platform seems too > idealistic to most. The solution is there he'd just need to get the rest on > board, > which sadly would probably prove fruitless. I mean superficially, I certainly > don't make 50 grand a year and I'd appreciate a tax break. I'm on board with > nearly, if not all Nader has to say. I really wish your statement about voting > for > Nader wasn't true, but it probably is. > > "Revolutionaries always spoil corrupt systems" - indeed. > > -YH > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Ralph has been saying that in a Gallup/ABC poll of Nader voters, after those who would not vote at all if he were nor running are taken out, fifty percent are coming from Republicans. I can believe it. Liberals are pissed at him and blame him for 2000, erroneously in my opinion. Mark > > Well, I don't dislike Nader. His ideas are good ones, but in the grand > scheme of things he is not helping the situation by running. Every > vote for Nader is a vote for Bush. It's as simple as that. Inflamed? I > am totally digusted at this shitstorm. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
In a message dated 10/29/04 1:48:32 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It doesn't surprise me one bit. This election will be a defying momentfor the American people. If we have another 2000 type scenario, andthe people do not revolt then we are truly "dumb all over."I just want to know, how many of YOU are going to vote? Milhouse? -Step one is find out if I'm registered or not. (Fairly certain I am, but have to check it out fer shure.) Step two : vote Kerry. --Milhouse For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
Well, I don't dislike Nader. His ideas are good ones, but in the grand scheme of things he is not helping the situation by running. Every vote for Nader is a vote for Bush. It's as simple as that. Inflamed? I am totally digusted at this shitstorm. On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:14:53 -, Andrew Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What truly confounds me is how close the race is between Boosh and > Kerry...and how they just ignore Nader as if he's not there. I mean there > are > people this time, who usually don't vote, voting against Boosh, just to > oust him > and it's still neck and neck. Damn. The Boosh lackeys were caught last time > discounting the the black vote...and got away with it, and it's going to > happen > again...Boosh is the evil prince. > > Sorry to flare up off topic like this. I''ve just been a little inflamed at > the moment > here at work. A poor sucker working among the wealthy republican crust that > develops between the elephant's toes. Hard to see daylight. > > -YH > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ESO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It doesn't surprise me one bit. This election will be a defying moment > > for the American people. If we have another 2000 type scenario, and > > the people do not revolt then we are truly "dumb all over." > > > > I just want to know, how many of YOU are going to vote? > > > > Milhouse? > > > > > > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:33:48 -, Andrew Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Isn't it almost surreal? I cannot believe this shit. How a man who > wasn't > > > even > > > elected in the first place is going to be president without being > elected > > > again. > > > Eff'n amazing, how he continually escapes impeachment. > > > > > > -YH > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Danny ODare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > Yep, it's Groundhog Day the sequel: > > > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3960679.stm > > > > > > > > Of course, it is just a coincidence that these 58,000 votes go > missing in > > > Florida, where Dubya's cousin in is charge. Just a coincidence that > they > go > > > missing in a strongly Democratic Party area of Florida. Just a > coincidence > > > that > > > they go missing in an election which is almost cetainly going to go to > the > > > wire. > > > Looks like, again, the lawyers and the Supreme Court (which, by just a > > > coincidence, is solidly reactionary/conservative/Republican) are going > to > > > decide who is going to be the next US president and the fate of the > world > > > (especially Iraqis). > > > > Deep in gloom, > > > > > > > > DANNY > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http:// > > > uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or > > > http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > -- > > ~ESO~ > > > > "Hey you, White House > > HA-HA, charade you are!" > > > > > > For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or > http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > Get unlimited calls to > > U.S./Canada > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~ESO~ "Hey you, White House HA-HA, charade you are!" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
I cannot take the polls seriously. Especially when you look at where they are coming from... The really fucked up thing about this is we may not really know who actually won for a few days to a week. Do not get your hopes up. I have a feeling this is going to be worse than 2000. Of course I hope not, but this administration will stop at nothing to win, and it won't be fairly. On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:17:04 -0500, Jim L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll be voting. Planning to be there when the polls open to avoid the rush. > > What I want to know is what if bush does win by an actual majority in the > popular vote? I've been preparing myself mentally for that one because the > tracking polls of likely voters are looking like it could go that way. > > > Jim L > > - Original Message - > From: ESO > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again > > > It doesn't surprise me one bit. This election will be a defying moment > for the American people. If we have another 2000 type scenario, and > the people do not revolt then we are truly "dumb all over." > > I just want to know, how many of YOU are going to vote? > > Milhouse? > > > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:33:48 -, Andrew Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Isn't it almost surreal? I cannot believe this shit. How a man who wasn't > > even > > elected in the first place is going to be president without being elected > > again. > > Eff'n amazing, how he continually escapes impeachment. > > > > -YH > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Danny ODare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Yep, it's Groundhog Day the sequel: > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3960679.stm > > > > > > Of course, it is just a coincidence that these 58,000 votes go missing > in > > Florida, where Dubya's cousin in is charge. Just a coincidence that they > go > > missing in a strongly Democratic Party area of Florida. Just a > coincidence > > that > > they go missing in an election which is almost cetainly going to go to > the > > wire. > > Looks like, again, the lawyers and the Supreme Court (which, by just a > > coincidence, is solidly reactionary/conservative/Republican) are going to > > decide who is going to be the next US president and the fate of the world > > (especially Iraqis). > > > Deep in gloom, > > > > > > DANNY > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http:// > > uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or > > http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > -- > ~ESO~ > > "Hey you, White House > HA-HA, charade you are!" > > > > For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or > http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or > http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~ESO~ "Hey you, White House HA-HA, charade you are!" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
I'll be voting. Planning to be there when the polls open to avoid the rush. What I want to know is what if bush does win by an actual majority in the popular vote? I've been preparing myself mentally for that one because the tracking polls of likely voters are looking like it could go that way. Jim L - Original Message - From: ESO To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again It doesn't surprise me one bit. This election will be a defying momentfor the American people. If we have another 2000 type scenario, andthe people do not revolt then we are truly "dumb all over."I just want to know, how many of YOU are going to vote? Milhouse? On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:33:48 -, Andrew Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Isn't it almost surreal? I cannot believe this shit. How a man who wasn't> even > elected in the first place is going to be president without being elected> again. > Eff'n amazing, how he continually escapes impeachment.> > -YH> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Danny ODare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> > wrote:> > Yep, it's Groundhog Day the sequel:> > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3960679.stm> > > > Of course, it is just a coincidence that these 58,000 votes go missing in> Florida, where Dubya's cousin in is charge. Just a coincidence that they go> missing in a strongly Democratic Party area of Florida. Just a coincidence> that > they go missing in an election which is almost cetainly going to go to the> wire. > Looks like, again, the lawyers and the Supreme Court (which, by just a > coincidence, is solidly reactionary/conservative/Republican) are going to > decide who is going to be the next US president and the fate of the world > (especially Iraqis).> > Deep in gloom,> > > > DANNY> > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://> uk.messenger.yahoo.com> > > > > > For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or> http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links> > To visit your group on the web, go to:> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~ESO~"Hey you, White HouseHA-HA, charade you are!" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar.Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free!http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: US elections and Florida - dumb all over again
It doesn't surprise me one bit. This election will be a defying moment for the American people. If we have another 2000 type scenario, and the people do not revolt then we are truly "dumb all over." I just want to know, how many of YOU are going to vote? Milhouse? On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:33:48 -, Andrew Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Isn't it almost surreal? I cannot believe this shit. How a man who wasn't > even > elected in the first place is going to be president without being elected > again. > Eff'n amazing, how he continually escapes impeachment. > > -YH > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Danny ODare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Yep, it's Groundhog Day the sequel: > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3960679.stm > > > > Of course, it is just a coincidence that these 58,000 votes go missing in > Florida, where Dubya's cousin in is charge. Just a coincidence that they go > missing in a strongly Democratic Party area of Florida. Just a coincidence > that > they go missing in an election which is almost cetainly going to go to the > wire. > Looks like, again, the lawyers and the Supreme Court (which, by just a > coincidence, is solidly reactionary/conservative/Republican) are going to > decide who is going to be the next US president and the fate of the world > (especially Iraqis). > > Deep in gloom, > > > > DANNY > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http:// > uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or > http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ~ESO~ "Hey you, White House HA-HA, charade you are!" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM ~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
