[zbmethod] Motivation and balance

2005-11-22 Thread cmhardw
Hey everyone, I recently have been having some doubts about ZB, which I would prefer not to be having, but I wanted to bring them up. I recently met with Dan Knights and asked him what he thought about ZB. His response was, for the most part, that it seemed like a good method but that recognitio

Re: [zbmethod] Motivation and balance

2005-11-22 Thread Brent Morgan
Hm... Whenever I do an average of 500, I either learn something new (small f2l trick or trigger), and I almost always break some kind of record in a category (average of 100, average of 10, single, the avg of 500, or something, etc.). When I do these long sessions (in a single sitting or 2), I lea

[zbmethod] Recognition

2005-11-22 Thread cmhardw
Hey everyone, After reading Brent's last post I decided to really start refining my recognition. What I have been doing is to do transformation solves, but only allow myself to see two sides to recognize the ZBLL. I do not allow AUF (adjust U face) turns either. It sometimes takes me as much as

[zbmethod] Re: Motivation and balance

2005-11-22 Thread Doug Lee
I haven't actually thought about it too much. However I would like to point out that the S-Orientation cases and the Pi-Orientation cases are so rediculously hard to recognize... T- Orientation recognition is a breeze for me now, as are many of the L- Orientation (*with CP*). The recogniton diff

[zbmethod] Re: Motivation and balance

2005-11-22 Thread Mike Bennett
In reply to all: I think this is the dilemma: Fridrich, while averaging more moves and having less potential for speed with full mastery, is much, much easier to implement. It is a simple and efficient solution. ZB averages far fewer moves, but has the nasty side effect of incredibly difficult

[zbmethod] Re: Motivation and balance

2005-11-22 Thread Bob Burton
--- In zbmethod@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again, just some thoughts, but I'm fairly convinced full ZB will be > too difficult to recognize under pressure consistently, at least > without years and years of practice. This is something I agree with. That is why I

[zbmethod] Re: Motivation and balance

2005-11-22 Thread Bob Burton
Well, I am still quite new to learning ZB and I have not even begun to learn ZBLL, but for ZBF2L, it seems very very easy. I still get some amnesia, but the ZBF2L I have learned so far (just under 50%) has been quite easy to learn (both learning algs and recognition). I think with enough practice

Re: [zbmethod] Motivation and balance

2005-11-22 Thread David Barr
On 11/22/05, cmhardw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm at a dilemma.  I have been talking with lots of people about Fridrich after the 2005RWC and have found lots of really useful ways to drop my average.  I even think now that I could get sub-15 with Fridrich were I to just implement all the ch

[zbmethod] Re: Motivation and balance

2005-11-22 Thread cmhardw
> > What changes do you need to implement with Fridrich? > Hey David, I've been thinking about a number of things. Here are the ones I want to learn most 1) go fast-fast - Though people advocate slow-fast, I think for 15.xx and faster times you have to just go really really fast. I've only