In reply to all: I think this is the dilemma: Fridrich, while averaging more moves and having less potential for speed with full mastery, is much, much easier to implement. It is a simple and efficient solution.
ZB averages far fewer moves, but has the nasty side effect of incredibly difficult recognition. It is much, much harder to fully incorporate into solving. In the end, I think the best possible scenario would be a hybrid of the two systems. One that could offer fewer cases (which provides easier recognition) and has the potential for fewer moves than standard Fridrich. Like I've mentioned a few times before, there are four distinct possibilities for using the last c/e pair to influence your last layer. Orient edges Permute edges Orient corners Permute corners Orienting corners has the most cases by a long shot. I think to learn how to orient all the corners is 27 possible cases for whichever way you insert them. Taking that a step further, learning to orient edges and corners with the last pair is 432 cases, including reflections, just using case 1 insertions. This is only 126 cases more than ZBF2L. This reduces the entire last layer to a PLL case. That makes for 432+21=453 cases for the method, which is just over half of what's required for ZB, and your PLL cases are all easy to recognize. Again, though, whichever step you place more burden on, the harder recognition for that step will be. The option that I think could be most promising, though I haven't found a reliable way to do it yet, would be orienting edges and permuting corners together. This would give you a ZB case with no corner permutation for your last step, significantly easing recognition (not to mention the number of required algs). However, it's 112 cases for the c/e pair for whichever case you want to learn. I would imagine at least 1 and 13, making for 224+99 possible LL cases=323 cases. Much better than 797 for full ZB. Again, just some thoughts, but I'm fairly convinced full ZB will be too difficult to recognize under pressure consistently, at least without years and years of practice. -Mike team [zb] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/MXMplB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zbmethod/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
