[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
OK I am convinced we can do this in another way. Extension makes sense for me and thus I think as an extension it has nothing to do here. Thus I will make it as invalid ** Changed in: zeitgeist Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 Title: Add new aggregate API Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Invalid Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zeitgeist/+bug/670358/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
** Changed in: zeitgeist Milestone: 0.8.0 = None -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 Title: Add new aggregate API Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
** Changed in: zeitgeist Milestone: None = 0.8.0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 Title: Add new aggregate API Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
Sorry to ruin the party, but I really don't like any of the proposed solutions. The use cases described in the wiki seems very academic and more intended on doing some theoretical counting exercises than solving actual user problems. Unless we have some crystal clear use cases (fx. a UI mockup someone actually wants to develop and deploy) or a very clear idea on how we can extend and adapt those cases to other situations I don't think it makes sense to add new API. It will just be technical debt. Concerning the actual proposals (minding that I don't think we're at a place where it makes sense to discuss it yet): Seif: I think this is way too simple. We *also* need something where you can also do a query and do the counting in one roundtrip - preferably with one SQL call under the hood. I say also because there are situations where you want to display the events fast, and can wait a bit longer to display the counts - because the counting is often a slower task. Markus: Your proposal is more flexible, although I wonder why you use a double. It would seem very awkward to have to convert everything from double to int in most cases. Maybe a variant which type is determined by the ResultType you pass in? Regarding ResultType.MostFrequentActor this is identical to our current ResultType.MostPopularActor, right? Like the initial use cases I think the examples you add a somewhat contrived. Again, sorry if I come out as overly negative. I just feel like we're taking stabs in the dark here. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
I updated my proposal at http://wiki.zeitgeist- project.com/index.php?title=Aggregation_API -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
@Markus: I basically like your proposal, but since I was told that event ids are not unique, isn't there a huge flaw in that API? -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
FindEventIdsStats(..., ResultType.MostRecentEvents) -- ([1, 2], [500.0, 250.0]) For `MostRecentEvents` the stats are returning the timestamps for each event. That's redundant, the events already include the last timestamp. -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
@Siegfried: yes, but it is only redundant for FindEventsStats as FindEventIdsStats only returns ids and not events. It can't be avoided in this particular case, as the stats field has to return *someting*. @Michal: as we already clearified on irc, the mapping is done based on index, so the first element in the stats array points to the first element in the result one, etc. -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
@Markus: I basically like your proposal, but since I was told that event ids are not unique, isn't there a huge flaw in that API? Nevermind, I misread the example... -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
I am very very pleased with the API proposal. GREAT GREAT WORK thekorn. You rock big time :) +1 from me On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Michal Hruby michal@gmail.com wrote: @Markus: I basically like your proposal, but since I was told that event ids are not unique, isn't there a huge flaw in that API? Nevermind, I misread the example... -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zeitgeist/+bug/670358/+subscribe -- This is me doing some advertisement for my blog http://seilo.geekyogre.com -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
I am really interested in this API since it would help a lot to the Music players like number of time a track is player. Music player is used by everyone, so it is a good use case which might reach out the maximum to the users. I just need some explanation def find_events_and_data(*find_event_arguments, datatype_const): ... return result result = [events, data] datatype_const: DATATYPE_COUNT - result of COUNT() from within the sql-query DATATYPE_RELATIVE_COUNT - result of COUNT() from within the sql-query relative to the overall result Can anyone explain a sample of how the *find_event_arguments might look? Is it an event template? Single or a list? I got datatype_const (which is sort of an enumeration, but not true in the strict sense) about [events,data] how are they contained? It would be very clear if Markus gives a complete example. Sample input data, and sample output data. -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
On day job I work on .NET where LINQ is a boon to all the programmers stuck up in Windows .NET programming Inspired from LINQ (which I use a lot) I would like to propose 5 basic aggregate operations as of now * Sum * Count * Max * Min * Average I know average/max/min sounds stupid at first glance since how can we have average etc of an event. Let us consider an example. I use Clementine, RB and Banshee for satisfying my music needs. I log the events from all these 4 players. One fine day I would like to know which * track was played maximum on Banshee * average number of plays from each player etc etc etc -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
** Changed in: zeitgeist Milestone: 0.7.0 = None -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
Again the use case is not visible to the user. It is all about sorting and ranking. I want to use it in Synapse. For that I need to have starred subjects which are all subject that have been ACCESSED or MODIFIED more than 10 times within the last 24h. These are usually things that are stamped in the users mind. Now querying for most used does not tell me how many times it was used. Thus if i opened something 2 times in a day making it the most used subject it actually bullcrap. Allowing me to query for the subjects and having a count would tell me how they relatively match to each other as well as how they rank in an absolute matter. I know it sounds stupid but there is no use case for it. It makes development easier. Another one I can think of is Unity Places. I have the most used. Now lets say the most used person was contacted 10 times in the last 24 hours and all others were contacted 9 times. This makes the count irrelevant since 10 to 9 is not big of a difference to make it stand out. Thus I shouldn't consider it as a star item. -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
OK I think I need to spam this bug a bit. While I agree that use cases and user stories are the way to go. There is no such thing as a simple use case for some features. Developers want to rank their stuff so they need COUNTS. And currently we have no simple way of exposing COUNTS. The use case is for developers (developer case?) where the developer wants to enrich the sorting/ranking of his results. I want to know how many times a set of subjects was used without having to ask for all the events and then iterate and count If the use case if going to be for actual users it would sound more like I want my search results to be sorted better The user cares nothing about how its done. It is a simple as that. -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
the problem we have with both methods is that we can only handle 1 event_template and the result types MostRecentEvents and LeastRecentEvent can not be used since it will always return a count of 1 -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
OK I gave it more thought and I think Markus's idea makes a lot of sense. This will allow us to even later work with more data_types, so if for example geo-location extension becomes officially supported we can shoot out the locations as a results. having a an array of dicts in data will allow us to expand and experiment more with the fields. Another example would be that data would look like data = [ data_1 = { relative_count : 0.6, absolute count : 1234, owner : seif, } ] I am giving +1 for Markus's idea -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
My current suggestion based on Michal Hruby's requirements would be a method called def get_events_count(timerange, event_templates): ... return dict where dict = {event_template_1: count1, event_template_2: count2, ... } -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
Why exactly are the event_templates duplicated to the result? -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
I suggest something like: def find_events_and_data(*find_event_arguments, datatype_const): ... return result result = [events, data] datatype_const: DATATYPE_COUNT - result of COUNT() from within the sql-query DATATYPE_RELATIVE_COUNT - result of COUNT() from within the sql-query relative to the overall result ... same with ids which is more flexible than seif's proposal, data is not necessarily a count... -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
** Changed in: zeitgeist Assignee: (unassigned) = Siegfried Gevatter (rainct) -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 670358] Re: Add new aggregate API
** Changed in: zeitgeist Importance: Undecided = Wishlist ** Changed in: zeitgeist Status: New = Confirmed ** Changed in: zeitgeist Milestone: None = 0.7 -- Add new aggregate API https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/670358 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Bug description: Zeitgeist API can give us vague information but not statistics over the API Use case: - Give me counts of every subject_text from actor = Unity Currently to do that one will need to either: Request all events with Unity as an Actor and count the subject_text This can be done much better IMHO I am thinking of an Aggregation Extension. But before we hack on that we need to agree if its necessary and how the API will look like. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp