Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-22 Thread Anthony Wu
Vince,   I am referring to your next lives. If you don't believe that stuff, you can just enjoy your present life. Karma only makes sense when there are more than one life. That is why it is more enjoyable to follow Sakyamuni than Mahavira's Jainism. In the former case, when you step on an insec

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-22 Thread Vince
Thanks, but I really don't anticipate any misfortune. Even in the inclimate conditions of winter, we generally experience very few power outages and even when we DO get them, they are for a very short period of time, hardly long enough to allow my stuff to thaw. Or were you referring to somethin

Re: [Zen] Nature?

2008-12-22 Thread Edgar Owen
Karin, Consciousness does not require not self consciousness. Otherwise Zen masters who have realized that the self is an illusion and a cognitive construct and given up the notion of self would not be conscious. Insects have already figured that out. Edgar On Dec 21, 2008, at 10:25 P

Re: [Zen] Nature?

2008-12-22 Thread Edgar Owen
Bill, BTW speaking of transliterations, Joju is always rendered as Joshu in all my old books on Zen. Edgar On Dec 21, 2008, at 8:03 PM, wrote: Edgar, I half agree with you and half disagree with you. That statement is a tautology. I agree that Joju certainly did directly address the q

Re: [Zen] Nature?

2008-12-22 Thread Anthony Wu
In my next life as an ant, I will organize a struggle against the oppressing ant class, to set up a proletarian dictatorship, so that both the princess and the worker will be saved.   Anthony --- On Mon, 22/12/08, mike brown wrote: From: mike brown Subject: Re: [Zen] Nature? To: Zen_Forum@yah

RE: [Zen] Nature?

2008-12-22 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill,   There are three consonents: g, k, and k'. Similarly, there are d, t, and t'. I don't remember the example Thai words for the first set, but the second set are dek (child), tau (turtle) and t'ahan (soldier). So the Thai are lucky enough to have all three different sounds. The English speak

Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature?

2008-12-22 Thread Anthony Wu
I wish you good luck.   Anthony --- On Mon, 22/12/08, Vince wrote: From: Vince Subject: Re: [Zen] Ducks Have Buddha Nature? To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 22 December, 2008, 3:34 AM I see the reasoning behind your argument, however, it seems to me that by buying meat from

RE: [Zen] Nature?

2008-12-22 Thread BillSmart
Karin, You do realize, don't you, that the discarding of self-awareness is what zen is all about? From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Karin Machado Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:26 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Nature? Edgar

Re: [Zen] Nature?

2008-12-22 Thread fitness4u2163
> I agree that Joju certainly did directly address the question.> Mojo Jojo? He used to be on the Powerpuff Girls! Really a great character. He knew how to turn a phrase! Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading!