Re: [Zen] Re: the human body

2013-08-25 Thread Kristopher Grey
Most people of such delusional persuasion also use 'creation' as a noun. KG On 8/25/2013 1:01 AM, uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Your definition is meaningless though and certainly not in accord with how most people define 'God'. The universe works just fine without such a belief. Why

Re: [Zen] Re: the human body

2013-08-25 Thread uerusuboyo
And a 6000 year old one, at that.br/br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

Re: [Zen] the human mind

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 oscar wilde is my hero figure that out... merle   Tell that to Oscar Wilde! Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad From: Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com; To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com; Subject: Re: [Zen] the human

Re: [Zen] Re: the human body

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 yes... but we do it anyway..so let's have fun doing it..merle   Merle, The idea behind self-realisation to to stop the weaving and deconstruct. You should know that.. Mike Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad From: Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com;

Re: [Zen] Re: the human body

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 delusional...huh?...wait till the sun goes down on you!! merle   Most people of such delusional persuasion also use 'creation' as a noun. KG On 8/25/2013 1:01 AM, uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:   Your definition is meaningless though and certainly not in accord with how most people

[Zen] creation

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 and yes creation KG..what a lovely word..coupled with create and creativity it dragged us from that original swampy pond  remember when you were a fish and struggling to breathe the breath of life on land...?... how far back to you wish to travel..a single cell..is that then the so

Re: [Zen] Isolated: The Zo’é Tribe

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 will you watch it larry, and give me feed back?..merle   Sorry Merle. I did get it in another email. Thank you On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:   this is a beautiful documentary about beautiful people living in harmony with each other

RE: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread uerusuboyo
Merle,br/br/The meaning of 'painting legs on a snake' indicates the pointlessness of giving something it doesn't need and can do without. It has nothing to do with 'having fun'. My original point still stands that the universe works perfectly well without giving it imaginary fairy-stories as to

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 yes mike..i know your meaning..however you refuse point blank to see mine.. why?..merle   Merle, The meaning of 'painting legs on a snake' indicates the pointlessness of giving something it doesn't need and can do without. It has nothing to do with 'having fun'. My original point still

Re: [Zen] Re: the human body

2013-08-25 Thread uerusuboyo
The creating and identifying of the ego as self is what creates suffering: the First Noble Truth.br/br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

[Zen] Fw: ▶ The Rainbow Serpent - YouTube

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
mike..you said you had great respect for australian aborigines now you tell me the rainbow snake is all crap..merle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vh6moD9ZOU

RE: [Zen] creation

2013-08-25 Thread uerusuboyo
Merle,br/br/Read KG's post again. Do you understand the difference between a noun and a verb?br/br/Mikebr/br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

[Zen] The men of the Fifth World

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
take time out to care...merle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRBMdS4t36c

Re: [Zen] Re: the human body

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
  which self?..merle   The creating and identifying of the ego as self is what creates suffering: the First Noble Truth. Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad From: Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com; To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com

[Zen] Aboriginal dreamtime -

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
  tell me tell me... this culture is delusional...merle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mntq_zD54Ys

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread uerusuboyo
Simply because your's is not the meaning of the phrase as it relates to Zen and how I originally used it.br/br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

RE: [Zen] Fw: ▶ The Rainbow Serpent - YouTube

2013-08-25 Thread uerusuboyo
Where did I say I thought Aboriginal culture was crap?br/br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

[Zen] creation

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 and yes creation KG..what a lovely word..coupled with create and creativity it dragged us from that original swampy pond  remember when you were a fish and struggling to breathe the breath of life on land...?... how far back to you wish to travel..a single cell..is that then the so

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 i see..your a text book fanatic..lordi be...merle   Simply because your's is not the meaning of the phrase as it relates to Zen and how I originally used it. Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad From: Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com; To:

[Zen] the painted snake: lighten up

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 i see..your a text book fanatic..lordi be...  lighten up mike and let the sunshine in...merle    yes mike..i know your meaning..however you refuse point blank to see mine.. why?..merle   Merle, The meaning of 'painting legs on a snake' indicates the pointlessness of giving

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread uerusuboyo
Exnnhj,br/br/Hertl njjik ddfoim doom wiki kklko ujji p ship.br/br/Njiikbr/br/br/br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 ah ha..now your experiencing the original buddha nature...well done  mike... sleep tight don't let the bed bugs bite..  what's that about the ship of doom i read ? and wiki leaks is ya ship come in? .signing out at 7:38pm..elrem..(all zen up and on fire)   Exnnhj, Hertl njjik ddfoim

[Zen] Re: the human body

2013-08-25 Thread Bill!
Merle, Did you just have a birthday or something? ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:  rubbish...you missed the point then . the forest is god..the forest and the people are one.. .god, forest and people are all in harmony..it's called

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread uerusuboyo
I hardly think employing the basic rules and conventions of communication makes me a text book fanatic. Where do you come up with these things?!!br/br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

RE: [Zen] Re: the human body

2013-08-25 Thread uerusuboyo
I thought it was a 60s flashback thing..br/br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

Re: [Zen] Re: the human body

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
bill... not yet..it's coming to a store near you next month...merle   Merle, Did you just have a birthday or something? ...Bill! .

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
mike ... lighten up... where is your sense of humour?..merle   Case in point: I just typed in random letters and the spell-checker did the rest. See how you (we) imagine things that aren't there without agreed upon rules of communication? I understand that Zen masters and poets can turn such

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread uerusuboyo
Merle,br/br/Is it National Non-Sequitur Week in Australia, or something?br/br/Mike br/br/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

Re: [Zen] creation

2013-08-25 Thread Kristopher Grey
On 8/25/2013 5:17 AM, Merle Lester wrote: now tell me i'm delusional... as i struggling to cope with the lack of awareness from some human beings on this planet... merle To be caught up in appearances so, what is that if not delusion? KG Current Book

Re: [Zen] Isolated: The Zo’é Tribe

2013-08-25 Thread larry maher
Yes Sir, I started watching it. So far so good, right off the bat I thought of a South American tribe that came into contact with the 'world' in the sixties. That doc taught me what our values are mostly based on, as humans I mean. Another was a book written in the early sixties called 'The Forest

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
  from the original buddha nature..where else do you suppose?..what rules are you referring to?... there you go rules  regulations and conventions and in the next breath you deny being a textbook fanatic... huh?..merle   I hardly think employing the basic rules and conventions of

[Zen] Re: the human body

2013-08-25 Thread Bill!
Merle, I was just wondering where you got all those emoticans you started using lately... --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote: bill... not yet..it's coming to a store near you next month...merle   Merle, Did you just have a birthday or something?

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 i bit of nonsense never hurt anyone... all seriousness can lead to fanaticism and text book devotees... be careful..lest you fall into the trap..merle   Merle, Is it National Non-Sequitur Week in Australia, or something? Mike Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

Re: [Zen] Re: the human body

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 bill...they are in yahoo ... ..merle   Merle, I was just wondering where you got all those emoticans you started using lately... --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote: bill... not yet..it's coming to a store near you next month...merle   Merle,

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread uerusuboyo
Merle,br/br/Hey, since when did you become the official forum entertainment officer? Fun and nonsense is fine (and I hardly think I could be accused of having no sense of humour), but you jumped from the middle of a discussion on the lack of a need for a creator god to 'painting legs on a

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 are you directing me what to do and post?... please clarify..merle   Merle, Hey, since when did you become the official forum entertainment officer? Fun and nonsense is fine (and I hardly think I could be accused of having no sense of humour), but you jumped from the middle of a discussion

[Zen] living in the NOW

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
  yes larry..i love this tribe...in harmony with themselves and nature and living in the NOW...  yes they too will be contaminated by our disgusting world..a world of greed violence and power mongering... we have fallen from grace..the garden of eden will it ever recover?...  thank you for

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread Bill!
My chosen subject is EMOTICONS! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:    right!!!... so what's your chosen topic?...merle   Mike Well, that would depend on whether you wish to have a discussion and stick to the topic or traipse off into

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
   right!!!... so what's your chosen topic?...merle   Mike Well, that would depend on whether you wish to have a discussion and stick to the topic or traipse off into unrelated matters, wouldn't it? Mike Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad From: Merle

Re: [Zen] Isolated: The Zo’é Tribe

2013-08-25 Thread larry maher
I think I might not have said it correctly: I think OUR 'noble' values of not being promiscuous, dedicating ourselves to ONE women and the mighty LOVE we write so many poems to, may be just founded in helping to run a large society better? Maybe not. This is not mine or even a new concept!

Re: [Zen] living in the NOW

2013-08-25 Thread larry maher
Again, I meant 'noble' facetiously. On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.comwrote: ** yes larry..i love this tribe...in harmony with themselves and nature and living in the NOW... yes they too will be contaminated by our disgusting world..a world of greed

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 okay..your turn..merle   My chosen subject is EMOTICONS! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:    right!!!... so what's your chosen topic?...merle   Mike Well, that would depend on whether you wish to have a discussion and stick to the

Re: [Zen] Isolated: The Zo’é Tribe

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 excuse me... how come so many divorces??merle   I think I might not have said it correctly: I think OUR 'noble' values of not being promiscuous, dedicating ourselves to ONE women and the mighty LOVE we write so many poems to, may be just founded in helping to run a large society

Re: [Zen] Isolated: The Zo’é Tribe

2013-08-25 Thread Bill!
Merle, Cultural and societal values and mores are always set by the mob at the top as you so eloquently put it. Although once they are set even the mob at the top may be powerless to change them very quickly. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread uerusuboyo
Mikebr/br/Well, that would depend on whether you wish to have a discussion and stick to the topic or traipse off into unrelated matters, wouldn't it?br/br/Mikebr/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread uerusuboyo
Case in point: I just typed in random letters and the spell-checker did the rest. See how you (we) imagine things that aren't there without agreed upon rules of communication? I understand that Zen masters and poets can turn such rules on their head to make a point, but we were still

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread uerusuboyo
Merle,br/br/Anything you might be able to follow thru' on... br/br/Mikebr/br/Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

Re: [Zen] Isolated: The Zo’é Tribe

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 bill...meaning what?..clarification please..merle   Larry, I agree most of what you posted here, but would like to add that most people however choose security over freedom. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, larry maher lcmaher22@... wrote: 1- Life is suffering. 2- We suffer

Re: [Zen] the painted snake

2013-08-25 Thread Merle Lester
 try me..merle   Merle, Anything you might be able to follow thru' on... Mike Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad From: Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com; To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com; Subject: Re: [Zen] the painted snake