Re: [Zen] Re: Detach from form

2007-09-17 Thread Tailor
Buddhism is not pessimism or demotivating, thinking so is a misunderstanding. It may seem so because many ancient and modern monks and nuns seem to live a reclusive life without need to strive in this busy world. It might seem so because of the teachings of Middle Way, which seem to discourage

Re: [Zen] Re: Detach from form

2007-09-16 Thread donald hwong
Hi Al, When we are in sync with the universal life force and wisdom, we are one with the One. We become the One. We would be able to flow in the Big River without hinder naturally course. Determination, desire, ambition are human framework, which is but a tiny framework of the universal

[Zen] Re: Detach from form

2007-09-15 Thread Frazier
donald hwong if we could put our best foot forward to let go our reaction to the effects of all existing forms, not be affected by it, just accept as is, we end our suffering. Putting our best foot forward (effort), and contentment are almost contrary motivations. It is difficult to be

Re: [Zen] Re: Detach from form

2007-09-15 Thread donald hwong
Hi Frazier, I am not sure you are making a statement or a question. Allow me to respond as follows. It takes awareness of our five skadha to be detached from all forms. This awareness if a state of calmness without any effort. Contentment is not satisfaction and not joy. Contentment is a

Re: [Zen] Re: Detach from form

2007-09-15 Thread Al
From: donald hwong Contentment is not satisfaction and not joy. Contentment is a state of want-nothing. if we could put our best foot forward to let go our reaction to the effects of all existing forms, not be affected by it, just accept as is, we end our suffering. If we want nothing, then