[Zen] Death

2010-08-29 Thread DP
ARe there any good meditations I can do which helps me deal with my fear of death? I just finished Thich Nhat Hanh's No Death No Fear, and I liked it, but I feel such a hard time getting around the idea of continuance - it's too much for my materialist mind. So maybe I need a different tack...

[Zen] The Four Corners

2010-08-29 Thread ED
Quite an informative message. > But it was only when I stumbled on the delightful novels written by Tony Hillerman that I was first introduced to the Navaho concept of hozho. One source nicely (and hopefully accurately) defines it as "harmony, beauty, balance, tranquillity, equilibrium, rightne

Re: [Zen] The Four Corners

2010-08-29 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi ED, The practice which is the same between Bill and our school is "Just This(a la Bill)" and "as is" in Buddhist terms. What does it mean for a thinking man? It means the "be part of the present moment", "be in the life force, or chi, of now". That's all. Now, what does this mean? I

Re: [Zen] Death

2010-08-29 Thread Rose P
Hi DP   I've read your posts and the replies you've gotten with interest. I don't have much information, zen wise, to offer with regards death and the fear of it, although I do *get* where you're coming from. Some of the others will hopefully post on this subject perhaps. What I have found extre

Re: [Zen] Death

2010-08-29 Thread Leonard Blunk
"Death", final and complete lack of existence, is a common Mid-Eastern concept. It is a limited concept as their ideas about life are more physical than spiritual.   In Tuetonic/Norse teachings, we accept spiritual life, within our clan, people, as perpetual.   "Life" does not end---it merely sh

Re: [Zen] Death

2010-08-29 Thread Kristy McClain
*bows* to you DP...     I've often read and heard that the reality of death is an important part of zen practice and training. Personally, I have never devoted any time to it. I will explain why.  WhenI I was 25, I had a life-altering car accident.  So serious that I was technically "dead" for m

Re: [Zen] Death

2010-08-29 Thread DP
I greatly appreciate your words. The idea of getting involved with life is helpful, but the problem is that with my OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) it will always be in the back of my mind.OCD perpetuates my fear of death, and my fear of death is the root of my OCD... --- In Zen_Forum@yaho

Re: [Zen] Death

2010-08-29 Thread DP
I will check them out. I appreciate your words. I guess I was frustrated with other zen groups, where I only received vague platitudes and rhetorical questions along the lines of "why be afraid of death?" Which I understand but have a problem implementing. --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Ros

Re: [Zen] Death

2010-08-29 Thread DP
thank you for your kind words. My main setback is that I've never *felt* a true presence of anything outside this world. --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Leonard Blunk wrote: > > "Death", final and complete lack of existence, is a common Mid-Eastern > concept. It is a limited concept as their

RE: [Zen] Death

2010-08-29 Thread BillSmart
do which helps me deal with my fear of death? I just finished Thich Nhat Hanh's No Death No Fear, and I liked it, but I feel such a hard time getting around the idea of continuance - it's too much for my materialist mind. So maybe I need a different tack... How do I confront the reality o