Re: [zfs-discuss] Can RAIDZ disks be slices ?

2010-04-20 Thread Ian Collins
On 04/20/10 05:32 PM, Sunil wrote: ouch! My apologies! I did not understand what you were trying to say. I was gearing towards: 1. Using the newer 1TB in the eventual RAIDZ. Newer hardware typically means (slightly) faster access times and sequential throughput. Using a slice on a newer

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

2010-04-20 Thread Michael Schuster
On 20.04.10 07:52, Ken Gunderson wrote: On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 12:27 +0700, C. Bergström wrote: Ken Gunderson wrote: Greetings All: Granted there has been much fear, uncertainty, and doubt following Oracle's take over of Sun, but I ran across this on a FreeBSD mailing list post dated

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

2010-04-20 Thread Khyron
This is how rumors get started. From reading that thread, the OP didn't seem to know much of anything about... anything. Even less so about Solaris and OpenSolaris. I'd advise not to get your news from mailing lists, especially not mailing lists for people who don't use the product you're

Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD best practices

2010-04-20 Thread Casper . Dik
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: Improbability assessment aside, suppose you use something like the DDRDrive X1 ... Which might be more like 4G instead of 32G ... Is it even physically possible to write 4G to any device in less than 10 seconds? Remember, to achieve worst case,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Making an rpool smaller?

2010-04-20 Thread Daniel Carosone
I have certainly moved a root pool from one disk to another, with the same basic process, ie: - fuss with fdisk and SMI labels (sigh) - zpool create - snapshot, send and recv - installgrub - swap disks I looked over the root pool recovery section in the Best Practices guide at the time,

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs snapshots and rsync

2010-04-20 Thread G. Ander
Thank you very much for your help! I wasn't aware of those options. ...sending end is running rsync 3.0 (Ubuntu 8.04 LTS), crossing my fingers, hoping it'll work. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

2010-04-20 Thread Tonmaus
Why don't you just fix the apparently broken link to your source, then? Regards, Tonmaus -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] upgrade zfs stripe

2010-04-20 Thread Albert Frenz
ok thanks for the fast info. that sounds really awesome. i am glad i tried out zfs, so i no longer have to worry about this issues and the fact that i can upgrad forth and back between stripe and mirror is amazing. money was short, so only 2 disks had been put in and since the data is not that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

2010-04-20 Thread Khyron
I have no idea who you're talking to, but presumably you mean this link: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-April/215269.html Worked fine for me. I didn't post it. I'm not the OP on this thread or on the FreeBSD thread. So what broken link are you talking about and to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large size variations - what is canonical method

2010-04-20 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: I'm seeing a really big (to big to be excused lightly) difference with the 2 zfs native methods zpool and rpool Typo alert: The above line should have read: the 2 zfs native methods ZPOOL list and ZFS list compared to 2 native unix

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

2010-04-20 Thread Tonmaus
you talking about and to whom brwere you responding?brbrdiv class=gmail_quote My intention was a response to the OP, which I guess from what I am seeing in the jive forum, happened as well. Indeed, my concern was the broken link in the first post which would be simple to fix if intended. That

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best way to expand a raidz pool

2010-04-20 Thread Ian Garbutt
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

2010-04-20 Thread Tonmaus
Don't copy the netiquette issue you are seeing, as I am talking about nothing but an issue in a post on this forum. Why should I contact the OP off record about this? There is no need to read intentions either. I just made clear once more what is obvious from board metadata anyhow. Besides

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

2010-04-20 Thread Dominic Kay
Oracle has no plan to move from ZFS as the principle storage platform for Solaris 10 and OpenSolaris. It remains key to both data management and to the OS infrastructure such as root/boot, install and upgrade. Thanks Dominic Kay Product Manager, Filesystems Oracle 2010/4/20 Khyron

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

2010-04-20 Thread Sean Sprague
Khyron, Finally, Michael S. made the best recommendation...talk to your sales rep if you're a paying customer. ... but don't expect any commitments or generic answer from them at the moment. I do however congratulate quoting Mr. Harman in your .sig ;-) Regards... Sean.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

2010-04-20 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 13:57 +0100, Dominic Kay wrote: Oracle has no plan to move from ZFS as the principle storage platform for Solaris 10 and OpenSolaris. It remains key to both data management and to the OS infrastructure such as root/boot, install and upgrade. Thanks Dominic Kay

[zfs-discuss] Co-creator of ZFS, Bill Moore joins Nexenta advisory board

2010-04-20 Thread Erast
Good news for Nexenta and OpenSolaris community in general: http://www.nexenta.com/corp/blog/2010/04/06/bill-moore-joins-nexenta-advisory-board/ Nexenta invites talents and hiring OpenSolaris Kernel/API engineers. If you are in SF bay area and you think you are qualified, send your resume by

Re: [zfs-discuss] Making an rpool smaller?

2010-04-20 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Yes, I apologize. I didn't notice you were running the OpenSolaris release. What I outlined below would work on a Solaris 10 system. I wonder if beadm supports a similar migration. I will find out and let you know. Thanks, Cindy On 04/19/10 17:22, Brandon High wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at

[zfs-discuss] can't destroy snapshot (continue)

2010-04-20 Thread Frank Contrepois
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Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD sale on newegg

2010-04-20 Thread Andreas Grüninger
I did the same experiment in an VMWare guest (SLES10 x64). The archive was stored on the vdisk and untarring went to the same vdisk. The storage backend is sun system with 64 GB RAM, 2*QC cpus, 24 SAS disks with 450 GB, 4 vdevs with 6 disks as RAIDZ2, an Intel X25-E as log device (c2t1d0). A

Re: [zfs-discuss] Making ZFS better: zfshistory

2010-04-20 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 09:03:33AM -0400, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: zfs list -t snapshot lists in time order. Good to know. I'll keep that in mind for my zfs send scripts but it's not relevant for the case at hand. Because zfs list isn't available on the NFS client, where the users are

[zfs-discuss] Recovering data

2010-04-20 Thread eXeC001er
Hi All. I have pool (3 disks, raidz1). I made recabling for disks and now some of disks in pool not available (cannot open). bounce back is not possible. Can i recovery data from this pool? Thanks. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] Snapshots and Data Loss

2010-04-20 Thread Geoff Nordli
From: Richard Elling [mailto:richard.ell...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:17 PM Hi Geoff, The Canucks have already won their last game of the season :-) more below... Hi Richard, I didn't watch the game last night, but obviously Vancouver better pick up their socks or they will be

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

2010-04-20 Thread Don Turnbull
Not to be a conspiracy nut but anyone anywhere could have registered that gmail account and supplied that answer. It would be a lot more believable from Mr Kay's Oracle or Sun account. On 4/20/2010 9:40 AM, Ken Gunderson wrote: On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 13:57 +0100, Dominic Kay wrote:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Making ZFS better: zfshistory

2010-04-20 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 04:28:02PM +, A Darren Dunham wrote: On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 09:03:33AM -0400, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: zfs list -t snapshot lists in time order. Good to know. I'll keep that in mind for my zfs send scripts but it's not relevant for the case at hand.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

2010-04-20 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Tue, Apr 20 at 11:41, Don Turnbull wrote: Not to be a conspiracy nut but anyone anywhere could have registered that gmail account and supplied that answer. It would be a lot more believable from Mr Kay's Oracle or Sun account. +1 Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed. -- Eric D. Mudama

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

2010-04-20 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010, Don Turnbull wrote: Not to be a conspiracy nut but anyone anywhere could have registered that gmail account and supplied that answer. It would be a lot more believable from Mr Kay's Oracle or Sun account. It is true that gmail accounts are just as free and untrustworthy

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

2010-04-20 Thread Bayard Bell
This thread starts with someone who doesn't claim to have any authoritative information or attempt to cite any sources using a gmail account to post to a mailgroup. Now people turn around and say that they doubt the sourcing on this, but looking at the archives of this list, there are a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Making ZFS better: zfshistory

2010-04-20 Thread Carson Gaspar
Nicolas Williams wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 04:28:02PM +, A Darren Dunham wrote: On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 09:03:33AM -0400, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: zfs list -t snapshot lists in time order. Good to know. I'll keep that in mind for my zfs send scripts but it's not relevant for the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Making an rpool smaller?

2010-04-20 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Brandon, You can use the OpenSolaris beadm command to migrate a ZFS BE over to another root pool, but you will also need to perform some manual migration steps, such as - copy over your other rpool datasets - recreate swap and dump devices - install bootblocks - update BIOS and GRUB entries to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

2010-04-20 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 18:51 +0100, Bayard Bell wrote: This thread starts with someone who doesn't claim to have any authoritative information or attempt to cite any sources using a gmail account to post to a mailgroup. Now people turn around and say that Whoa! By way of clarification: 1)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Snapshots and Data Loss

2010-04-20 Thread matthew patton
Geoff Nordli geo...@grokworx.com wrote: With our particular use case we are going to do a save state on their virtual machines, which is going to write  100-400 MB per VM via CIFS or NFS, then we take a snapshot of the volume, which guarantees we get a consistent copy of their VM. maybe

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

2010-04-20 Thread Bayard Bell
Ken, The sharpest parts of my remarks weren't directed your way, and I regret if that wasn't as clear as I had thought. For clarification: I was referring to the thread as starting with what you forwarded by URL (which was sent from a gmail address to the freebsd list), and my objection

Re: [zfs-discuss] Making an rpool smaller?

2010-04-20 Thread Daniel Carosone
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:55:10PM -0600, Cindy Swearingen wrote: You can use the OpenSolaris beadm command to migrate a ZFS BE over to another root pool, but you will also need to perform some manual migration steps, such as - copy over your other rpool datasets - recreate swap and dump

[zfs-discuss] In iSCSI hell...

2010-04-20 Thread Ron Mexico
I have a storage server with snv_134 installed. This has four zfs file systems shared with iscsi that are mounted as zfs volumes on a Sun v480. Everything has been working great for about a month, and all of a sudden the v480 has timeout errors when trying to connect to the iscsi volumes on the

[zfs-discuss] Double slash in mountpoint

2010-04-20 Thread Ryan John
Hi, I've accidentally put a double slash in a mountpoint, and now can't change it. # zfs list ... dataPool/SoftwareRepo 529G 31.3T 73.1K /sw-repo1/ dataPool/SoftwareRepo/dir1 6.10G 31.3T 6.10G /sw-repo1//dir1 dataPool/SoftwareRepo/dir2 26.0G 31.3T 25.7G /sw-repo1//dir2 ... #

[zfs-discuss] Benchmarking Methodologies

2010-04-20 Thread Ben Rockwood
I'm doing a little research study on ZFS benchmarking and performance profiling. Like most, I've had my favorite methods, but I'm re-evaluating my choices and trying to be a bit more scientific than I have in the past. To that end, I'm curious if folks wouldn't mind sharing their work on the

Re: [zfs-discuss] upgrade zfs stripe

2010-04-20 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: Bob Friesenhahn [mailto:bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us] On Mon, 19 Apr 2010, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: Just be aware that if *any* of your devices fail, all is lost. (Because you've said it's configured as a nonredundant stripe.) The good news is that it is easy to convert any

Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD best practices

2010-04-20 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: cas...@holland.sun.com [mailto:cas...@holland.sun.com] On Behalf Of casper@sun.com On Mon, 19 Apr 2010, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: Improbability assessment aside, suppose you use something like the DDRDrive X1 ... Which might be more like 4G instead of 32G ... Is it even

Re: [zfs-discuss] Double slash in mountpoint

2010-04-20 Thread Timothy Haley
Ryan John wrote: Hi, I've accidentally put a double slash in a mountpoint, and now can't change it. # zfs list ... dataPool/SoftwareRepo 529G 31.3T 73.1K /sw-repo1/ dataPool/SoftwareRepo/dir1 6.10G 31.3T 6.10G /sw-repo1//dir1 dataPool/SoftwareRepo/dir2 26.0G 31.3T 25.7G

Re: [zfs-discuss] Double slash in mountpoint

2010-04-20 Thread Ryan John
Hi Timothy, That didn't work either. # zfs inherit mountpoint dataPool/SoftwareRepo cannot unmount '/sw-repo1/dir2': Device busy Regards John -Original Message- From: Timothy Haley [mailto:tim.ha...@oracle.com] Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2010 5:52 AM To: Ryan John Cc:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Double slash in mountpoint

2010-04-20 Thread Brandon High
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Ryan John john.r...@bsse.ethz.ch wrote: Anyone know how to fix it? I can't even do a zfs destroy zfs unmount -a -f -B -- Brandon High : bh...@freaks.com ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Making ZFS better: zfshistory

2010-04-20 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Edward Ned Harvey solar...@nedharvey.com wrote: there's a file or something you want to rollback, it's presently difficult to know how far back up the tree you need to go, to find the correct .zfs subdirectory, and then you need to figure out the name of the