Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write performance on boot disk

2008-10-27 Thread Volker A. Brandt
This smells of name resolution delays somewhere. [...] I think you've misunderstood something here, perhaps in the way I've tried to explain it. No, I was just offering a hunch. Writing files into a directory checks access permissions for that directory, and that involves name services. It

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write performance on boot disk

2008-10-27 Thread Casper . Dik
This smells of name resolution delays somewhere. [...] I think you've misunderstood something here, perhaps in the way I've tried to explain it. No, I was just offering a hunch. Writing files into a directory checks access permissions for that directory, and that involves name services. It

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write performance on boot disk

2008-10-26 Thread William Bauer
I've done some more research, but would still greatly appreciate someone helping me understand this. It seems that writes to only the home directory of the person logged in to the console suffers from degraded performance. If I write to a subdirectory beneath my home, or to any other

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write performance on boot disk

2008-10-26 Thread Ethan Erchinger
William Bauer wrote: I've done some more research, but would still greatly appreciate someone helping me understand this. It seems that writes to only the home directory of the person logged in to the console suffers from degraded performance. If I write to a subdirectory beneath my home,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write performance on boot disk

2008-10-26 Thread William Bauer
If that were the case, why would it matter if I was logged into the console, and why would subdirectories of my home exhibit better write performance than the top level home directory? A write to /export/home/username is slower than to /export/home/username/blah, but ONLY if that user is

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write performance on boot disk

2008-10-26 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, William Bauer wrote: This has proven true on every OpenSolaris system I've tried--all of which are using ZFS. So what is it about logging into the console that slows write performance to ONLY the top level home directory of the username on the same console? Recently

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write performance on boot disk

2008-10-26 Thread Volker A. Brandt
If that were the case, why would it matter if I was logged into the console, and why would subdirectories of my home exhibit better write performance than the top level home directory? A write to /export/home/username is slower than to /export/home/username/blah, but ONLY if that user is

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write performance on boot disk

2008-10-26 Thread William Bauer
This smells of name resolution delays somewhere. Do you have a shell prompt that gets some host name or user name from name services? Is your /home directory owned by a non-existing user or group? Do you accidentally have something enabled in /etc/nsswitch.conf that does not exist

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write performance on boot disk

2008-10-26 Thread William Bauer
This sounds plausible I suppose Being unfamiliar with this tracker daemon, I can blindly accept it as a maybe! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write performance on boot disk

2008-10-26 Thread William Bauer
For clarity, here's how you can reproduce what I'm asking about: This is for local file systems on build 86 and not about NFS or any remote mounts. You can repeat these 100 times and always get the same result, whether you reboot between trials or leave the system running. 1. Log into the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write performance on boot disk

2008-10-26 Thread Richard Elling
I cannot recreate this on b101. There is no significant difference between the two on my system. -- richard William Bauer wrote: For clarity, here's how you can reproduce what I'm asking about: This is for local file systems on build 86 and not about NFS or any remote mounts. You can repeat

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write performance on boot disk

2008-10-26 Thread William Bauer
I cannot recreate this on b101. There is no significant difference between the two on my system. That's encouraging...unless no one can reproduce it on 86, then I'm forgetting something. I've done this a dozen times on several systems, so maybe ZFS performance has been improved. What

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write performance on boot disk

2008-10-26 Thread William Bauer
Bingo! I just updated a system from 86 to 99 and the problem is gone. Even better, it was a VB guest, and the ZFS performance on the guest increased 5x in this test, as I mentioned earlier. Granted, a VB guest may not be the best test and it only applies to top level home directories, but it

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write performance on boot disk

2008-10-26 Thread William Bauer
After a zpool upgrade, this simple test's write speed jumped up yet another 20%. Looks like ZFS is getting better. As one would hope expect. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

[zfs-discuss] ZFS write performance on boot disk

2008-10-19 Thread William Bauer
I apologize if this has been addressed countless times, but I have searched searched and have not found the answer. I'm rather new to ZFS and have learned a lot about it so far. At least one thing confuses me, however. I've noticed that writes to the boot disk in OpenSolaris (i.e. pool