Re: [zfs-discuss] triple-parity: RAID-Z3

2009-07-20 Thread Thomas
which gap? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding SAS/SATA Backplanes and Connectivity

2009-07-20 Thread F. Wessels
Also in reply to the previous email by Will. Can anyone shed more light on the combination lsi sas hba , the lsisasx36 expander chip (or it's relatives) and sata disks. I'm investigating a migration from discrete channels (like in the thumper) to a multiplexed solution via a sas expander. I'm

[zfs-discuss] zpool import problem / missing label / corrupted data

2009-07-20 Thread Rainer Siedler
After a power outage due to a thunder storm my 3 disk raidz1 pool has become UNAVAILable. It is a ZFV v13 pool using the whole 3 disks created on FreeBSD current 8 x64 and worked well for over a month. Unfortunately I wasn't able to import the pool with neither a FreeBSD LiveCD or the current

[zfs-discuss] Migrating a zfs pool to another server

2009-07-20 Thread Peter Farmer
Hi All, I have a zfs pool setup on one server, the pool is made up of 4 iSCSI luns, is it possible to migrate the zfs pool to another server? Each of the iSCSI luns would be available on the other server. Thanks, -- Peter Farmer ___ zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] What are the rollback tools?

2009-07-20 Thread Russel
Hi, Yes I read those threads, wow, dd directly over blocks at some offset point. I was hoping some tools may have been created by now. hoping Russel -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] Migrating a zfs pool to another server

2009-07-20 Thread Daniel J. Priem
Peter Farmer pfarmer.li...@googlemail.com writes: Hi All, I have a zfs pool setup on one server, the pool is made up of 4 iSCSI luns, is it possible to migrate the zfs pool to another server? Each of the iSCSI luns would be available on the other server. Thanks, yes. zpool export

Re: [zfs-discuss] Another user looses his pool (10TB) in this case and 40 days work

2009-07-20 Thread Russel
Well I did have a UPS on the machine :-) but the machine hung and I had to power it off... (yep it was vertual, but that happens on direct HW too, and virtualisasion is the happening ting at sun and else where! I have a version of the data backed up, but will take ages (10days) to restore). --

Re: [zfs-discuss] What are the rollback tools?

2009-07-20 Thread Ross
That's the stuff. I think that is probably your best bet at the moment. I've not seen even a mention of an actual tool to do that, and I'd be surprised if we saw one this side of Christmas. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] What are the rollback tools?

2009-07-20 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hi. Hm, what are you actually referring to? On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 13:45, Ross no-re...@opensolaris.org wrote: That's the stuff. I think that is probably your best bet at the moment. I've not seen even a mention of an actual tool to do that, and I'd be surprised if we saw one this side of

Re: [zfs-discuss] What are the rollback tools?

2009-07-20 Thread Ross
Hm, what are you actually referring to? Sorry, I'm not subscribed to this list, so I just replied on the forum. This segment of the discussion is what I'm replying to: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=397730#397730 -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Another user looses his pool (10TB) in this case and 40 days work

2009-07-20 Thread Rob Logan
the machine hung and I had to power it off. kinda getting off the zpool import --tgx -3 request, but hangs are exceptionally rare and usually ram or other hardware issue, solairs usually abends on software faults. r...@pdm # uptime 9:33am up 1116 day(s), 21:12, 1 user, load average:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can't offline a RAID-Z2 device: no valid replica

2009-07-20 Thread Laurent Blume
You're right, from the documentation it definitely should work. Still, it doesn't. At least not in Solaris 10. But i am not a zfs-developer, so this should probably answered by them. I will give it a try with a recent OpneSolaris-VM and check, wether this works in newer implementations of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can't offline a RAID-Z2 device: no valid replica

2009-07-20 Thread Laurent Blume
Thanks a lot, Cindy! Let me know how it goes or if I can provide more info. Part of the bad luck I've had with that set, is that it reports such errors about once a month, then everything goes back to normal again. So I'm pretty sure that I'll be able to try to offline the disk someday.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Another user looses his pool (10TB) in this case and 40 days work

2009-07-20 Thread Russel
OK. So do we have an zpool import --xtg 56574 mypoolname or help to do it (script?) Russel -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] triple-parity: RAID-Z3

2009-07-20 Thread Scott Meilicke
which gap? 'RAID-Z should mind the gap on writes' ? Message was edited by: thometal I believe this is in reference to the raid 5 write hole, described here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels#RAID_5_performance RAIDZ should avoid this via it's Copy on Write model:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding SAS/SATA Backplanes and Connectivity

2009-07-20 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 05:44, F. Wesselsno-re...@opensolaris.org wrote: Also in reply to the previous email by Will. Can anyone shed more light on the combination lsi sas hba , the lsisasx36 expander chip (or it's relatives) and sata disks. I'm investigating a migration from discrete

[zfs-discuss] Newbie question on zpool

2009-07-20 Thread Sandra
Hello, I setup a NAS based on EON 0.58.9-b104 (Osol 2008/11) incl. a zfs (raid-z zpool). This is shared in my LAN via smb = working. System is running from a flash USB stick. I now installed Osol 2009/11 on a flash disk in the same machine, so I be able to boot either EON or Osol 2009/11. I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding SAS/SATA Backplanes and Connectivity

2009-07-20 Thread Richard Elling
F. Wessels wrote: Also in reply to the previous email by Will. Can anyone shed more light on the combination lsi sas hba , the lsisasx36 expander chip (or it's relatives) and sata disks. I'm investigating a migration from discrete channels (like in the thumper) to a multiplexed solution via a

[zfs-discuss] Snapshots and atime - OK to use atime for snapshot creation time?

2009-07-20 Thread W Sanders
I notice that on my ZFS filesystems the atime of snapshots is equal to the snapshot creation time. Is this guaranteed to be kosher? It does not seem to change when I read the snapshot: # ls -lu /blah/.zfs/snapshot total 55 drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 16 Jul 7 00:43

[zfs-discuss] Non-unique disk names

2009-07-20 Thread Andrew Gabriel
After rebuilding a server which included moving the disks around and replacing one, zpool status reports the following... # zpool status pool: export state: DEGRADED status: One or more devices could not be used because the label is missing or invalid. Sufficient replicas exist

Re: [zfs-discuss] Another user looses his pool (10TB) in this case and 40 days work

2009-07-20 Thread Frank Middleton
On 07/19/09 06:10 PM, Richard Elling wrote: Not that bad. Uncommitted ZFS data in memory does not tend to live that long. Writes are generally out to media in 30 seconds. Yes, but memory hits are instantaneous. On a reasonably busy system there may be buffers in queue all the time. You may

[zfs-discuss] [ZFS-discuss] help lost data on ZFS pool

2009-07-20 Thread raoul le crie qui desaoule
Hello, Just like sid81 i had the same storm destroying 1 of my drives in the pool. i had 2 drives in a pool one of 160GB and one of 1TB the 160GB is dead but the 1TB is still ok But i did something really stupid: I destroyed the header of the disk by typing the command zpool create piszkos

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import problem / missing label / corrupted data

2009-07-20 Thread raoul le crie qui desaoule
hello, I cannot help for your problem but one of my drives wwas also destroyed by last week-end's storm. and what a storm it was! good luck with your restore. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

[zfs-discuss] Encryption

2009-07-20 Thread Roger
Hello, I am new to Solaris. Several PDFs out there suggest any of the following: a) Solaris comes with 128bit encryption (full filesystem) b) Solaris supports full root encryption. Any truth to any of this? The company I work for tis mandating full root encryption. Thanks. -- This message

Re: [zfs-discuss] Encryption

2009-07-20 Thread David Magda
On Jul 20, 2009, at 15:54, Roger wrote: Several PDFs out there suggest any of the following: a) Solaris comes with 128bit encryption (full filesystem) b) Solaris supports full root encryption. Any truth to any of this? The company I work for tis mandating full root encryption. Part (a) is

[zfs-discuss] Something wrong with zfs mount

2009-07-20 Thread Andre Lue
I have noticed this in snv_114 now at 117. I have the following filesystems. fs was created using zfs create pool/fs movies created using zfs create pool/fs/movies pool/fs/movies pool/fs/music pool/fs/photos pool/fs/archives at boot /lib/svc/method/fs-local fails where zfs mount -a is called.

Re: [zfs-discuss] triple-parity: RAID-Z3

2009-07-20 Thread Thomas
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/onnv-notify/2009-July/009872.html second bug, its the same link like in the first post. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] triple-parity: RAID-Z3

2009-07-20 Thread chris
That would be nice. Before developers worry about such exotic features, I would rather that they attend to the gross performance issues so that zfs performs at least as well as Windows NTFS or Linux XFS in all common cases. To each their own. A FS that calculates and writes parity onto disks

Re: [zfs-discuss] Something wrong with zfs mount

2009-07-20 Thread Ian Collins
On Tue 21/07/09 03:13 , Andre Lue no-re...@opensolaris.org sent: I have noticed this in snv_114 now at 117. I have the following filesystems. fs was created using zfs create pool/fs movies created using zfs create pool/fs/movies pool/fs/movies pool/fs/music pool/fs/photos

Re: [zfs-discuss] triple-parity: RAID-Z3

2009-07-20 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, chris wrote: That would be nice. Before developers worry about such exotic features, I would rather that they attend to the gross performance issues so that zfs performs at least as well as Windows NTFS or Linux XFS in all common cases. To each their own. I was

[zfs-discuss] What do directories look like on disk with ZFS?

2009-07-20 Thread Jake
This all started when I decided to name the pool on my laptop root I didn't think anything of it until I realized the zfs boot info ended up in my root user's home directory... I also had a hard time doing LUs (I'm running SXCE). I decided to rename my pool by exporting it and reimporting it,

[zfs-discuss] zpool import is trying to tell me something...

2009-07-20 Thread Nathaniel Filardo
I recently had an X86 system (running Nexenta Elatte, if that matters -- b101 kernel, I think) suffer hardware failure and refuse to boot. I've migrated the disks into a SPARC system (b115) in an attempt to bring the data back online while I see about repairing the former system. However, I'm

Re: [zfs-discuss] Motherboard for home zfs/solaris file server

2009-07-20 Thread chris
Ok, so the choice for a MB boils down to: - Intel desktop MB, no ECC support - Intel server MB, ECC support, expensive (requires a Xeon for speedstep support). It is a shame to waste top kit doing nothing 24/7. - AMD K8: ECC support(right?), no Cool'n'quiet support (but maybe still cool enough

Re: [zfs-discuss] Why is Solaris 10 ZFS performance so terrible?

2009-07-20 Thread Marion Hakanson
bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us said: No. I am suggesting that all Solaris 10 (and probably OpenSolaris systems) currently have a software-imposed read bottleneck which places a limit on how well systems will perform on this simple sequential read benchmark. After a certain point (which is

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs destroy hanging

2009-07-20 Thread Moshe Vainer
We have just got a hang like this. Here's the output of ps -ef | grep zfs: root 425 7 0 Jun 17 console 0:00 /usr/lib/saf/ttymon -g -d /dev/console -l console -m ldterm,ttcompat -h -p zfs0 root 22879 22876 0 18:18:37 ? 0:01 /usr/sbin/zfs rollback -r tank/aa root

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs destroy hanging

2009-07-20 Thread Moshe Vainer
Forgot to mention - 1. this system was installed as 2008.11, so it should have no upgrade issues. 2. Not sure how to do the mdb -k on the dump, the only thing it produced is the following: ::status debugging live kernel (64-bit) on zfs05 operating system: 5.11 snv_101b (i86pc) $C -- This

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs destroy hanging

2009-07-20 Thread Moshe Vainer
Ok, sorry for spamming - got some more info from mdb -k devu...@zfs05:/var/crash/zfs05# mdb -k unix.0 vmcore.0 mdb: failed to read panicbuf and panic_reg -- current register set will be unavailable Loading modules: [ unix genunix specfs dtrace cpu.generic uppc pcplusmp scsi_vhci zfs sd ip hook

Re: [zfs-discuss] Motherboard for home zfs/solaris file server

2009-07-20 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, chris wrote: If none, maybe top quality ram (suggestions?) would allow me to forego ECC and use a well supported low power intel board (suggestions?) instead? and a E5200? Even top quality RAM will not protect you from an alpha particle. I would be surprised if the AMD

[zfs-discuss] ZFS hot spare problem

2009-07-20 Thread Sam
I have a 10 drive Raidz2 setup with one hot spare, I checked the status of my array this morning and it had a weird reading, it shows all 10 of my drives in ONLINE no-fault status but that my hot-spare is also currently replacing a perfectly ok drive: NAME STATE READ

Re: [zfs-discuss] Why is Solaris 10 ZFS performance so terrible?

2009-07-20 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Marion Hakanson wrote: Bob, have you tried changing your benchmark to be multithreaded? It occurs to me that maybe a single cpio invocation is another bottleneck. I've definitely experienced the case where a single bonnie++ process was not enough to max out the storage

Re: [zfs-discuss] Motherboard for home zfs/solaris file server

2009-07-20 Thread chris
Thanks for your reply. What if I wrap the ram in a sheet of lead?;-) (hopefully the lead itself won't be radioactive) I found these 4 AM3 motherboard with optional ECC memory support. I don't know whether this means ECC works, or ECC memory can be used but ECC will not. Do you? Asus M4N78

Re: [zfs-discuss] Motherboard for home zfs/solaris file server

2009-07-20 Thread Keith Bierman
hopefully the lead itself won't be radioactive) Or the chips themselves don't have some alpha particle generation. It has happened and from premium vendors There is no replacement for good system design :) khb...@gmail.com Sent from my iPod