Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Ghee Teo
Hi Chris, Great to have such a long list of suggestions! Though I think the information is a bit on the short side, hard for mentor/mentee to pick up. Suggestion to create a short description like that here, http://live.gnome.org/SummerOfCode2009/Ideas Title: 1liner o Benefits: 1 liners o

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comstar production-ready?

2009-03-04 Thread Jacob Ritorto
Caution: I built a system like this and spent several weeks trying to get iscsi share working under Solaris 10 u6 and older. It would work fine for the first few hours but then performance would start to degrade, eventually becoming so poor as to actually cause panics on the iscsi initiator

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle database on zfs

2009-03-04 Thread Vahid Moghaddasi
Thank you all for reply. I will do the recommendation and see if there is any change in performance. I had seen the documents in the link but I needed to make sure that we can not do anything to improve the performance before going to storage guys. Thanks again, Vahid. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comstar production-ready?

2009-03-04 Thread Toby Thain
On 4-Mar-09, at 2:07 AM, Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: Hi, I recommended a ZFS-based archive solution to a client needing to have a network-based archive of 15TB of data in a remote datacentre. I based this on an X2200 + J4400, Solaris 10 + rsync. This was enthusiastically received, to the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can VirtualBox run a 64 bit guests on 32 bit host

2009-03-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us writes: On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Miles Nordin wrote: I would like 64-bit hardware with ECC, 8GB RAM, and a good Ethernet chip, that can run both Linux and Solaris. I do not plan to use the onboard SATA. So far I'm having nasty problems with an nForce

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comstar production-ready?

2009-03-04 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: The interesting alternative is to set up Comstar on SXCE, create zpools and volumes, and make these available either over a fibre infrastructure, or iSCSI. I'm quite excited by this as a solution, but I'm not sure if it's really production ready.

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Gary Mills
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 11:35:40PM +0200, C. Bergström wrote: Here's more or less what I've collected... [..] 10) Did I miss something.. I suppose my RFE for two-level ZFS should be included, unless nobody intends to attach a ZFS file server to a SAN with ZFS on application servers. --

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs with PERC 6/i card?

2009-03-04 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 10:59:04AM +1100, Julius Roberts wrote: However I would expect that if you could present 8 raid0 luns to the host then that should be at least a decent config to start using for ZFS. I can confirm that we are doing that here (with 3 drives) and it's been fine

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs with PERC 6/i card?

2009-03-04 Thread Sriram Narayanan
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Julius Roberts hooliowobb...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to hear if anyone is using ZFS with this card and how you set it up, and what, if any, issues you've had with that set up. However I would expect that if you could present 8 raid0 luns to the host then

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs list extentions related to pNFS

2009-03-04 Thread Richard Morris - Sun Microsystems - Burlington United States
Quick Background: The pNFS project (http://opensolaris.org/os/project/nfsv41/) http://opensolaris.org/os/project/nfsv41/%29 is adding a new DMU object set type which is used on the pNFS data server to store pNFS stripe DMU objects. A pNFS dataset gets created with the zfs create command

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Tim
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Gary Mills mi...@cc.umanitoba.ca wrote: On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 11:35:40PM +0200, C. Bergström wrote: Here's more or less what I've collected... [..] 10) Did I miss something.. I suppose my RFE for two-level ZFS should be included, unless nobody

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle database on zfs

2009-03-04 Thread Richard Elling
Vahid Moghaddasi wrote: Thank you all for reply. I will do the recommendation and see if there is any change in performance. I had seen the documents in the link but I needed to make sure that we can not do anything to improve the performance before going to storage guys. You may not have

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Miles Nordin
nw == Nicolas Williams nicolas.willi...@sun.com writes: nw IIRC Jeff Bonwick has said on this list that ubberblock nw rollback on import is now his higher priority. So working on nw (8) would be duplication of effort. well...if your recovery tool worked by using an older

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Miles Nordin
gm == Gary Mills mi...@cc.umanitoba.ca writes: gm I suppose my RFE for two-level ZFS should be included, Not that my opinion counts for much, but I wasn't deaf to it---I did respond. I thought it was kind of based on mistaken understanding. It included this strangeness of the upper ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
I don't know if anyone has noticed that the topic is google summer of code. There is only so much that a starving college student can accomplish from a dead-start in 1-1/2 months. The ZFS equivalent of eliminating world hunger is not among the tasks which may be reasonably accomplished, yet

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread C. Bergström
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: I don't know if anyone has noticed that the topic is google summer of code. There is only so much that a starving college student can accomplish from a dead-start in 1-1/2 months. The ZFS equivalent of eliminating world hunger is not among the tasks which may be

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comstar production-ready?

2009-03-04 Thread Scott Lawson
Jacob Ritorto wrote: Caution: I built a system like this and spent several weeks trying to get iscsi share working under Solaris 10 u6 and older. It would work fine for the first few hours but then performance would start to degrade, eventually becoming so poor as to actually cause panics on

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Toby Thain
On 4-Mar-09, at 1:28 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: I don't know if anyone has noticed that the topic is google summer of code. There is only so much that a starving college student can accomplish from a dead-start in 1-1/2 months. The ZFS equivalent of eliminating world hunger is not among

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comstar production-ready?

2009-03-04 Thread Scott Lawson
Right on the money there Bob. Without knowing more detail about the clients workload, it would be hard to advise either way. I would imagine based purely on the small amount of info around the clients apps and workload that NFS would most likely be the appropriate solution on top of ZFS. You

Re: [zfs-discuss] invalid vdev configuration after power failure

2009-03-04 Thread Kyle Kakligian
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Blake blake.ir...@gmail.com wrote: that link suggests that this is a problem with a dirty export: Yes, a loss of power should mean there was no clean export. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Blake blake.ir...@gmail.com wrote: maybe try importing on system A again,

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Wes Felter
C. Bergström wrote: 10) Did I miss something.. T10 DIF support in zvols T10 UNMAP/thin provisioning support in zvols proportional scheduling for storage performance slog and L2ARC on the same SSD These are probably difficult but hopefully not world hunger level. Wes Felter -

[zfs-discuss] Question about zpool create parameter version

2009-03-04 Thread Dennis Clarke
Not too sure what this option needs as a value but the man page suggests that the keywork current should work. When I try a dry run with -n I see this : # zpool create -n -o autoreplace=on -o version=current -m legacy \ fibre00 \ mirror c8t2004CFAC0E97d0 c8t202037F859F1d0 \ mirror

[zfs-discuss] schedulers [was: zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote]

2009-03-04 Thread Richard Elling
Wes Felter wrote: proportional scheduling for storage performance slog and L2ARC on the same SSD The current scheduler is rather simple, there might be room for improvements -- but that may be a rather extended research topic. But I'm curious as to why you would want to put both the slog and

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 02:16:53PM -0600, Wes Felter wrote: T10 UNMAP/thin provisioning support in zvols That's probably simple enough, and sufficiently valuable too. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] schedulers [was: zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote]

2009-03-04 Thread Wes Felter
Richard Elling wrote: Wes Felter wrote: proportional scheduling for storage performance slog and L2ARC on the same SSD The current scheduler is rather simple, there might be room for improvements -- but that may be a rather extended research topic. Yes. For GSoC it would probably be wise

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs list extentions related to pNFS

2009-03-04 Thread Lisa Week
Hi Rich, On Mar 4, 2009, at 9:30 AM, Richard Morris - Sun Microsystems - Burlington United States wrote: Quick Background: The pNFS project (http://opensolaris.org/os/project/nfsv41/) is adding a new DMU object set type which is used on the pNFS data server to store pNFS stripe DMU

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs list extentions related to pNFS

2009-03-04 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 02:13:51PM -0700, Lisa Week wrote: (pnfs-17-21:/home/lisagab):6 % zfs list -o name,type,used,avail,refer,mountpoint NAME TYPE USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT rpool filesystem30.0G 37.0G 32.5K /rpool

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs list extentions related to pNFS

2009-03-04 Thread Lisa Week
On Mar 4, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Nicolas Williams wrote: On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 02:13:51PM -0700, Lisa Week wrote: (pnfs-17-21:/home/lisagab):6 % zfs list -o name,type,used,avail,refer,mountpoint NAME TYPE USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT rpool

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Julius Roberts
2009/3/4 Tim t...@tcsac.net: I know plenty of home users would like the ability to add a single disk to a raid-z vdev in order to grow a disk at a time. +1 for that. -- Kind regards, Jules ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs with PERC 6/i card?

2009-03-04 Thread Julius Roberts
2009/3/5 Brian Hechinger wo...@4amlunch.net: Even though it probably really doesn't matter since you only have a single disk in each raid0, what did you set the PERC's stripe size to?  (I can't think of what terminology is actually used for it and don't have a PERC in front of me to check on

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs list extentions related to pNFS

2009-03-04 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 03:49:54PM -0700, Lisa Week wrote: My (humble) opinion is: Even though it is hard to tell if a dataset is a filesystem or a zvol now, it doesn't mean we can't make it better... Agreed. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs list extentions related to pNFS

2009-03-04 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Wed, March 4, 2009 15:13, Lisa Week wrote: Does anyone have insight into any known problems it may cause to add the type property to the default output or why it was left out in the first place? The obvious problem that always comes up in this situation is existing scripts that parse the

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Wed, March 4, 2009 16:53, Julius Roberts wrote: 2009/3/4 Tim t...@tcsac.net: I know plenty of home users would like the ability to add a single disk to a raid-z vdev in order to grow a disk at a time. +1 for that. In theory I'd like that a lot. I'm now committed to two two-disk mirrors

Re: [zfs-discuss] GSoC 09 zfs ideas?

2009-03-04 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello George, Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 3:01:43 PM, you wrote: GW Matthew Ahrens wrote: pool-shrinking (and an option to shrink disk A when i want disk B to become a mirror, but A is a few blocks bigger) I'm working on it. automated installgrub when mirroring an rpool GW I'm working on

Re: [zfs-discuss] GSoC 09 zfs ideas?

2009-03-04 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Thomas, Saturday, February 28, 2009, 10:14:20 PM, you wrote: TW I would really add : make insane zfs destroy -r| poolname as TW harmless as zpool destroy poolname (recoverable) TW zfs destroy -r| poolname|/filesystem TW this should behave like that: TW o snapshot the filesystem

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle database on zfs

2009-03-04 Thread Vahid Moghaddasi
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.comwrote: Vahid Moghaddasi wrote: Thank you all for reply. I will do the recommendation and see if there is any change in performance. I had seen the documents in the link but I needed to make sure that we can not do

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Gary Mills
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 01:20:42PM -0500, Miles Nordin wrote: gm == Gary Mills mi...@cc.umanitoba.ca writes: gm I suppose my RFE for two-level ZFS should be included, Not that my opinion counts for much, but I wasn't deaf to it---I did respond. I appreciate that. I thought it was

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Toby Thain
On 4-Mar-09, at 7:35 PM, Gary Mills wrote: On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 01:20:42PM -0500, Miles Nordin wrote: gm == Gary Mills mi...@cc.umanitoba.ca writes: gm I suppose my RFE for two-level ZFS should be included, Not that my opinion counts for much, but I wasn't deaf to it---I did

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Dave
Gary Mills wrote: On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 01:20:42PM -0500, Miles Nordin wrote: gm == Gary Mills mi...@cc.umanitoba.ca writes: gm I suppose my RFE for two-level ZFS should be included, Not that my opinion counts for much, but I wasn't deaf to it---I did respond. I appreciate that. I

Re: [zfs-discuss] schedulers [was: zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote]

2009-03-04 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 12:49 -0800, Richard Elling wrote: But I'm curious as to why you would want to put both the slog and L2ARC on the same SSD? Reducing part count in a small system. For instance: adding L2ARC+slog to a laptop. I might only have one slot free to allocate to ssd. IMHO the

Re: [zfs-discuss] schedulers [was: zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote]

2009-03-04 Thread Nathan Kroenert
Hm - a ZilArc?? Or, slarc? Or L2ArZi I'm tried something sort of similar to this when fooling around, adding different *slices* for ZIL / L2ARC but as I'm too poor to afford good SSD's my resolut was poor at beat... ;) Having ZFS manage some 'arbitrary fast stuff' and sorting out it's own

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Gary Mills
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 06:31:59PM -0700, Dave wrote: Gary Mills wrote: On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 01:20:42PM -0500, Miles Nordin wrote: gm == Gary Mills mi...@cc.umanitoba.ca writes: gm I suppose my RFE for two-level ZFS should be included, It's a simply a consequence of ZFS's end-to-end

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Dave
Gary Mills wrote: On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 06:31:59PM -0700, Dave wrote: Gary Mills wrote: On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 01:20:42PM -0500, Miles Nordin wrote: gm == Gary Mills mi...@cc.umanitoba.ca writes: gm I suppose my RFE for two-level ZFS should be included, It's a simply a consequence

Re: [zfs-discuss] invalid vdev configuration after power failure

2009-03-04 Thread Kyle Kakligian
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Blake blake.ir...@gmail.com wrote: that link suggests that this is a problem with a dirty export: Yes, a loss of power should mean there was no clean export. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Blake blake.ir...@gmail.com wrote: maybe try importing on system A again,

Re: [zfs-discuss] invalid vdev configuration after power failure

2009-03-04 Thread Richard Elling
additional comment below... Kyle Kakligian wrote: On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Blake blake.ir...@gmail.com wrote: that link suggests that this is a problem with a dirty export: Yes, a loss of power should mean there was no clean export. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Blake