Re: [zfs-discuss] Checksum fletcher4 or sha256 ?

2010-02-01 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 30/01/2010 09:26, Malte Schirmacher wrote: Mirko wrote: Hi, I'm atmost ready to deploy my new homeserver for final testing. Before I want to be sure that nothing big is left untouched. Reading ZFS Admin Guide About the checksum method, there's no advice about it. The default is fletcher4.

[zfs-discuss] 3ware 9650 SE

2010-02-01 Thread Tiernan OToole
Good morning. looking at the 3ware 9650 SE raid controller for a new build... anyone have any luck with this card? their site says they support OpenSolaris... anyone used one? Thanks. Tiernan OToole Software Developer Chat Google Talk: lsmart...@gmail.com Skype: tiernanotoole MSN:

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware 9650 SE

2010-02-01 Thread Rasmus Fauske
Den 01.02.2010 10:43, skrev Tiernan OToole: looking at the 3ware 9650 SE raid controller for a new build... anyone have any luck with this card? their site says they support OpenSolaris... anyone used one? I am using one and it works with hotswap and all, but you can not install to a drive on

[zfs-discuss] ZFS confused about disks?

2010-02-01 Thread Peter Eriksson
I'm trying to put an older Fibre Channel RAID (Fujitsu Siemens S80) box into use again with ZFS on a Solaris 10 (Update 8) system, but it seems ZFS gets confused about which disk (LUN) is which... Back in the old days when we used these disk systems on another server we had problems with

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware 9650 SE

2010-02-01 Thread Kjetil Torgrim Homme
Tiernan O'Toole lsmart...@gmail.com writes: looking at the 3ware 9650 SE raid controller for a new build... anyone have any luck with this card? their site says they support OpenSolaris... anyone used one? didn't work too well for me. it's fast and nice for a couple of days, then the driver

[zfs-discuss] ZFS compressed ration inconsistency

2010-02-01 Thread antst
Probably I'm missing something here, but what I see on my system zfs list -o used,ratio,compression,name export/home/user 89.6G 2.86xgzip-4 export/home/user cmsmaster ~ # du -hs /export/home/user/ 90G /export/home/user/ du -hsb /export/home/user/ 380781942931/export/home/user/

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS compressed ration inconsistency

2010-02-01 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 01 February, 2010 - antst sent me these 0,6K bytes: Probably I'm missing something here, but what I see on my system zfs list -o used,ratio,compression,name export/home/user 89.6G 2.86xgzip-4 export/home/user cmsmaster ~ # du -hs /export/home/user/ 90G /export/home/user/

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS compressed ration inconsistency

2010-02-01 Thread antst
I would expect to see uncompressed size by --apparent-size. And what I see much above uncompressed size obtained by multiplication of compressed size and ratio. In fact, apparent size is consistent with amount used by same set of files on linux system. (I'm moving my home directories from linux

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS compressed ration inconsistency

2010-02-01 Thread antst
I'm more than happy by the fact that data consumes even less physical space on storage. But I want to understand why and how. And want to know to what numbers I can trust. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS compressed ration inconsistency

2010-02-01 Thread Kjetil Torgrim Homme
antst ant.stari...@gmail.com writes: I'm more than happy by the fact that data consumes even less physical space on storage. But I want to understand why and how. And want to know to what numbers I can trust. my guess is sparse files. BTW, I think you should compare the size returned from

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZPOOL somehow got same physical drive assigned twice

2010-02-01 Thread Mark J Musante
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, TheJay wrote: Attached the zpool history. Did the resilver ever complete on the first c6t1d0? I see a second replace here: 2010-01-27.20:41:15 zpool replace rzpool2 c6t1d0 c6t16d0 2010-01-28.07:57:27 zpool scrub rzpool2 2010-01-28.20:39:42 zpool clear rzpool2 c6t1d0

Re: [zfs-discuss] L2ARC in Cluster is picked up althought not part of the pool

2010-02-01 Thread Lutz Schumann
I tested some more and found that Pool disks are picked UP. Head1: Cachedevice1 (c0t0d0) Head2: Cachedevice2 (c0t0d0) Pool: Shared, c1tXdY I created a pool on shared storage. Added the cache device on Head1. Switched the pool to Head2 (export + import). Created a pool on head1 containing

[zfs-discuss] zpool status output confusing

2010-02-01 Thread Tonmaus
Hi all, this is what I get from 'zpool status pool' after swapping 3 of 10 members of a zpool for testing purpose. [i]u...@zfs2:~$ zpool status pool pool: pool state: ONLINE scrub: scrub in progress for 0h8m, 4,70% done, 2h51m to go config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM

Re: [zfs-discuss] mimic size=1024m setting in /etc/vfstab whenusing rpool/swap (zfs root)

2010-02-01 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 31, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Prakash Kochummen wrote: Thanks for the reply. Sorry i confused you too. when I mentioned ufs , i just meant ufs root scenario (pre u6). Suppose I have a 136G Hdd which as my boot disk,which has been sliced it like s0-80gb (root slice) s1-55Gb (swap

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware 9650 SE

2010-02-01 Thread TheJay
I use the Beta 9.5.3 ISO Opensolaris package with OSOL DEV131 build - I had the 3ware support team help me. It works like a charm on my 9650se-24m8 with 20 drives On Feb 1, 2010, at 3:02 AM, Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote: Tiernan O'Toole lsmart...@gmail.com writes: looking at the 3ware 9650

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZPOOL somehow got same physical drive assigned twice

2010-02-01 Thread TheJay
Correct - I have not yet re-assigned c6t1d0 yet though On Feb 1, 2010, at 5:08 AM, Mark J Musante wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, TheJay wrote: Attached the zpool history. Did the resilver ever complete on the first c6t1d0? I see a second replace here: 2010-01-27.20:41:15 zpool replace

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is LSI SAS3081E-R suitable for a ZFS NAS ?

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Nipper
On 31 Jan 2010, Jacob Ritorto wrote: I spent *so* many hours looking for that firmware.� Would you please post the link?� Did the firmware dl you found come with fcode? Running blade 2000 here (SPARC). Well, I can't say for sure it's the right firmware for your device. I

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status output confusing

2010-02-01 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi-- Were you trying to swap out a drive in your pool's raidz1 VDEV with a spare device? Was that your original intention? If so, then you need to use the zpool replace command to replace one disk with another disk including a spare. I would put the disks back to where they were and retry with

Re: [zfs-discuss] Verify NCQ status

2010-02-01 Thread Martin Faltesek
The 4 disks attached to the ahci driver should be using NCQ. The two cmdk disks will not have NCQ capability as they are under control of the legacy ata driver. What does your pool topology look like? Can you try removing the cmdk disks from your pool. You can also verify if your disks are

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status output confusing

2010-02-01 Thread Tonmaus
Hi-- Were you trying to swap out a drive in your pool's raidz1 VDEV with a spare device? Was that your original intention? Not really. I just wanted to see what happens if the physical controller port changes, i.e. what practical relevance it would have if I put the disks in the same

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status output confusing

2010-02-01 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Its Monday morning so it still doesn't make sense. :-) I suggested putting the disks back because I'm still not sure if you physically swapped c7t11d0 for c7t9d0 or if c7t9d0 is still connected and part of your pool. You might trying detaching the spare as described in the docs. If you put the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Home ZFS NAS - 2 drives or 3?

2010-02-01 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Sat, January 30, 2010 14:21, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: Op 30-1-2010 20:53, Mark schreef: Alternatively, I guess I could add a small USB drive to use solely for the OS and then have all of the 2 750 drives for ZFS. Is that a bad idea since the OS drive will be standalone? Very bad idea.

Re: [zfs-discuss] why checksum data?

2010-02-01 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Sat, January 30, 2010 10:58, matthew patton wrote: please forgive the 'stupid' question. Perfectly fair thing to wonder about IMHO. And if you're wondering, trying to find out is good :-). Aside from having a convenient hash table of checksums to consult and upon detection of a

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs rpool mirror on non-equal drives

2010-02-01 Thread Cindy Swearingen
You are correct. Should be fine without -m. Thanks, Cindy On 01/30/10 09:15, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote: On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Cindy Swearingen cindy.swearin...@sun.com wrote: Hi Michelle, You're almost there, but install the bootblocks in s0: # installgrub -m /boot/grub/stage1

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status output confusing

2010-02-01 Thread Freddie Cash
10 disks connected in the following order: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Export pool. Remove three drives from the system: 0 1 3 4 6 7 8 Plug them back in, but into different slots: 0 1 9 3 4 1 6 7 8 5 Import the pool. What's supposed to happen is that ZFS detects the drives, figures out where

Re: [zfs-discuss] L2ARC in Cluster is picked up althought not part of the pool

2010-02-01 Thread Richard Elling
On Feb 1, 2010, at 5:53 AM, Lutz Schumann wrote: I tested some more and found that Pool disks are picked UP. Head1: Cachedevice1 (c0t0d0) Head2: Cachedevice2 (c0t0d0) Pool: Shared, c1tXdY I created a pool on shared storage. Added the cache device on Head1. Switched the pool to Head2

[zfs-discuss] ZFS ARC

2010-02-01 Thread tester
Hi, I have heard references to ARC releasing memory when the demand is high. Can someone please point me to the code path from the point of such a detection to ARC release? Thanks -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ARC

2010-02-01 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 01 February, 2010 - tester sent me these 0,4K bytes: Hi, I have heard references to ARC releasing memory when the demand is high. Can someone please point me to the code path from the point of such a detection to ARC release?

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status output confusing

2010-02-01 Thread Cindy Swearingen
ZFS can generally detect device changes on Sun hardware, but for other hardware, the behavior is unknown. The most harmful pool problem I see besides inadequate redundancy levels or no backups, is device changes. Recovery can be difficult. Follow recommended practices for replacing devices in a

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3ware 9650 SE

2010-02-01 Thread Tiernan OToole
Thanks for the feedback lads... dont really need the boot drives to be on the array... was going to use the onboard controller for that... got an adaptec card already, so might look at those again... --Tiernan On 01/02/2010 15:59, TheJay wrote: I use the Beta 9.5.3 ISO Opensolaris package

Re: [zfs-discuss] Home ZFS NAS - 2 drives or 3?

2010-02-01 Thread Frank Cusack
On February 1, 2010 11:59:14 AM -0600 David Dyer-Bennet d...@dd-b.net wrote: One idea I seriously considered is to boot off a USB key. No online redundancy (but I'd keep a second loaded key, plus the files to quickly reimage a new key, handy). I've just built my first USB-booting zfs system.

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status output confusing

2010-02-01 Thread Frank Cusack
On February 1, 2010 10:19:24 AM -0700 Cindy Swearingen cindy.swearin...@sun.com wrote: ZFS has recommended ways for swapping disks so if the pool is exported, the system shutdown and then disks are swapped, then the behavior is unpredictable and ZFS is understandably confused about what

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status output confusing

2010-02-01 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi Frank, If you want to replace one disk with another disk, then physically replace the disk and let ZFS know by using the zpool replace command or set the autoreplace property. Whether disk swapping on the fly or a controller firmware update renumbers the devices causes a problem really

Re: [zfs-discuss] L2ARC in Cluster is picked up althought not part of the pool

2010-02-01 Thread Lutz Schumann
Created a pool on head1 containing just the cache device (c0t0d0). This is not possible, unless there is a bug. You cannot create a pool with only a cache device. I have verified this on b131: # zpool create norealpool cache /dev/ramdisk/rc1 1 invalid vdev

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status output confusing

2010-02-01 Thread Frank Cusack
On February 1, 2010 1:09:21 PM -0700 Cindy Swearingen cindy.swearin...@sun.com wrote: Whether disk swapping on the fly or a controller firmware update renumbers the devices causes a problem really depends on the driver--ZFS interaction and we can't speak for all hardware. With mpxio disks are

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status output confusing

2010-02-01 Thread Tonmaus
Hi Cindys, I'm still not sure if you physically swapped c7t11d0 for c7t9d0 or if c7t9d0 is still connected and part of your pool. The latter is not the case according to status, the first is definitely the case. format reports the drive as present and correctly labelled. ZFS has

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status output confusing

2010-02-01 Thread Tonmaus
Hi again, Follow recommended practices for replacing devices in a live pool. Fair enough. On the other hand I guess it has become clear that the pool went offline as a part of the procedure. That was partly as I am not sure about the hotplug capabilities of the controller, partly as I wanted

Re: [zfs-discuss] demise of community edition

2010-02-01 Thread Miles Nordin
re == Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.com writes: re It is true that SXCE b130 is the last SXCE build and only re available until 31-jan-10. I have a copy of b130 that I downloaded during the few-weeks-long window it was available, but cannot legally give it to you because of the

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status output confusing

2010-02-01 Thread Frank Cusack
On February 1, 2010 4:15:10 PM -0500 Frank Cusack frank+lists/z...@linetwo.net wrote: On February 1, 2010 1:09:21 PM -0700 Cindy Swearingen cindy.swearin...@sun.com wrote: Whether disk swapping on the fly or a controller firmware update renumbers the devices causes a problem really depends on

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status output confusing

2010-02-01 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi, Testing how ZFS reacts to a failed disk can be difficult to anticipate because some systems don't react well when you remove a disk. On an x4500, for example, you have to unconfigure a disk before you can remove it. Before removing a disk, I would consult your h/w docs to see what the

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status output confusing

2010-02-01 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Frank, ZFS, Sun device drivers, and the MPxIO stack all work as expected. Cindy On 02/01/10 14:55, Frank Cusack wrote: On February 1, 2010 4:15:10 PM -0500 Frank Cusack frank+lists/z...@linetwo.net wrote: On February 1, 2010 1:09:21 PM -0700 Cindy Swearingen cindy.swearin...@sun.com wrote:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is LSI SAS3081E-R suitable for a ZFS NAS ?

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Bennett
I did see that and confirmed the support has made it into the 130 release I'm testing with. However, the WD10EARS does not expose 4k sectors to the outside world, so it is not identified as supporting it. Correct alignment, to ensure best performance of the internal translation, seems to be

[zfs-discuss] b131 OpenSol x86, 4 disk RAIDZ-1 scrub performance way down.

2010-02-01 Thread Jake Carroll
Hi all. Recent builds (b129, b130 and b131) have had me noticing some zpool performance issues when scrubbing. Running bare into some cheap SATA controllers, on a cheap mobo, running 6GB of DDR2 + an Intel Q6600, with 4 * 1TB Samsung consumer grade SATA drives, I've been accustomed to seeing

Re: [zfs-discuss] Workaround for mpt timeouts in snv_127

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Bennett
The results are in: My timeout issue is definitely the WD10EARS disks. Although differences in the error rate was seen with different LSI firmware revisions, the errors persisted. The more disks on the expander, the higher the number with iostat errors. This then causes zpool issues (disk

Re: [zfs-discuss] mimic size=1024m setting in /etc/vfstab whenusing rpool/swap (zfs root)

2010-02-01 Thread Prakash Kochummen
my bad, since zfs/zfs root, never really bothered to look at the /etc/vfstab file, looked at it now and everything is same as before . Thanks a lot for your reply. Rgds PK -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] b131 OpenSol x86, 4 disk RAIDZ-1 scrub performance way down.

2010-02-01 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Mon, Feb 1 at 16:12, Jake Carroll wrote: Hi all. Recent builds (b129, b130 and b131) have had me noticing some zpool performance issues when scrubbing. Running bare into some cheap SATA controllers, on a cheap mobo, running 6GB of DDR2 + an Intel Q6600, with 4 * 1TB Samsung consumer grade

[zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-01 Thread matthew patton
what with the home NAS conversations, what's the trick to buy a J4500 without any drives? SUN like every other enterprise storage vendor thinks it's ok to rape their customers and I for one, am not interested in paying 10x for a silly SATA hard drive.

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-01 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:58 PM, matthew patton patto...@yahoo.com wrote: what with the home NAS conversations, what's the trick to buy a J4500 without any drives? SUN like every other enterprise storage vendor thinks it's ok to rape their customers and I for one, am not interested in paying

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is LSI SAS3081E-R suitable for a ZFS NAS ?

2010-02-01 Thread Mark Bennett
The WD10EARS disks don't work well. I had too many issues with timeouts that disappeared when replacing them with ST32000542AS drives. My next challenge is to get the LSI 3081 to boot off the disk I want it to, and then to get multipath functional. Has anyone else had issues with the LSI IT

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-01 Thread Bryan Allen
+-- | On 2010-02-01 23:01:33, Tim Cook wrote: | | On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:58 PM, matthew patton patto...@yahoo.com wrote: | | what with the home NAS conversations, what's the trick to buy a J4500 | without any

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-01 Thread Frank Cusack
http://www.memoryx.net/5410456.html I've bought sleds for X4150s and X2270s from them. interesting mis-description on the web page. thumper doesn't use SCA drives. -frank ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-01 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:58 PM, matthew patton patto...@yahoo.com wrote: what with the home NAS conversations, what's the trick to buy a J4500 without any drives? SUN like every other enterprise storage vendor thinks it's ok to rape their customers and I for one, am not interested in paying

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-01 Thread matthew patton
charge a premium for their products but they ARE a enterprise vendor.  You wouldn't say something like hey, where can i buy a Ferrari without any wheels...i'm not paying x amount for a silly aluminum wheel true. but I buy a Ferrari for the engine and bodywork and chassis engineering. It

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-01 Thread matthew patton
charge a premium for their products but they ARE a enterprise vendor. You wouldn't say something like hey, where can i buy a Ferrari without any wheels...i'm not paying x amount for a silly aluminum wheel true. but I buy a Ferrari for the engine and bodywork and chassis engineering. It

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-01 Thread James C. McPherson
On 2/02/10 05:17 PM, matthew patton wrote: charge a premium for their products but they ARE a enterprise vendor. You wouldn't say something like hey, where can i buy a Ferrari without any wheels...i'm not paying x amount for a silly aluminum wheel true. but I buy a Ferrari for the engine

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-01 Thread Tim Cook
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:17 AM, matthew patton patto...@yahoo.com wrote: charge a premium for their products but they ARE a enterprise vendor. You wouldn't say something like hey, where can i buy a Ferrari without any wheels...i'm not paying x amount for a silly aluminum wheel

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-01 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:17 AM, matthew patton patto...@yahoo.com wrote: charge a premium for their products but they ARE a enterprise vendor. You wouldn't say something like hey, where can i buy a Ferrari without any wheels...i'm not paying x amount for a silly aluminum wheel

Re: [zfs-discuss] b131 OpenSol x86, 4 disk RAIDZ-1 scrub performance way down.

2010-02-01 Thread Lutz Schumann
When you send data (as the mate did) , all data is rewritten and the settings you made (dedupe etc.) are effectivly applied. If you change a parameter (dedupe, compression) this holds only true for NEWLY written data. If you do not cange data, all data is still duped. Also when you send, all